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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#41 » by Dalek » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:02 pm

douggood wrote:funny mistake, they meant to say "remain in immediate vicinity of thier bench", but reads "in the immediate vicinity of their Violators"


Also known as the "Terence Davis rule." Too soon?
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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#42 » by FreshyFlames » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:10 pm

will wrote:Players leave the bench area ALL the time. Regardless of an altercation or not.

Pretty dumb.

Congratulations, Adam Silver.

It's been a rule forever. It's even enforced in the playoffs(check out Suns vs Spurs 2007)
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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#43 » by Syd-TK3 » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:22 pm

BD006 wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:The fines on top of the ejection are stupid


Ejection has no monetary penalty, unless I'm wrong.

$30k for OG is far less than Fred's single game suspension without pay

Oh I thought they already came with a fine
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Post#44 » by old skool » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:24 pm

The NBA promotes fan emotion and the up close experience of live attendance.

But the Malice at the Palace was a dark stain on the NBA. Players fighting with fans was a bad look. If I recall, the prohibitions on players going onto the court during an altercation or going into the stands period was a result of the Palace melee.
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Post#45 » by visionquest » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:30 pm

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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#46 » by Pooh_Jeter » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:32 pm

will wrote:
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will wrote:
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Still a dumb rule.


Google "Kermit Washington punch"

The NBA is justifiably anal about minimizing the possibility of fights breaking out.


If someone is going to throw hands, someone is going to throw hands. No fine is going to stop anyone like Kermit.


The amount of actual fist fights has dropped significantly since the NBA made it a priority to stamp them out. Sure, if someone REALLY wants to do it they could, but it's like saying we shouldn't have any rules because if someone wants to break them they will.
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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#47 » by PhilBlackson » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:35 pm

Suspend Fred for rest of the season lol
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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#48 » by old skool » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:35 pm

Some of the posts in this thread seem to think that the NBA rules on players leaving the bench during altercations and subsequent fines and suspensions are imposed by the NBA. They aren't.

All of these rules, including the fine and suspension framework, are a negotiated agreement between the NBA and the players association. They don't exist in a vacuum. They are part of the broader partnership between the league and the players. Those rules seem to be effective in that they have brought about the desired result of minimizing the number of and scope of on-court fights and brawls. Nothing "dumb" about that.
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Post#49 » by rrdjutriurt » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:56 pm

Funny thing is, i think OG had lost his bearings as his head was down the whole time and never even meant to flip Schroeder in the way he did. He may actually have been trying to steady him. He looks like he thought he had is other leg and not his weight bearing one. You could see it in OG's reaction after the event happened.
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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#50 » by WaltFrazier » Thu Apr 8, 2021 5:58 pm

PrinceAli wrote:
Zeno wrote:So if Raptors had Fred listed as out before suspension, this means him missing today’s game doesn’t count as serving the suspension, right?

He serves the suspension once he’s physically cleared


So can the team clear him one game earlier than he's really ready?


Meanwhile Schroeder who provoked the whole thing gets nothing.
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Post#51 » by WaltFrazier » Thu Apr 8, 2021 6:01 pm

antonaki1 wrote:Funny thing, i think OG had lost his bearings as his head was down the whole time and never even meant to flip Schroeder in the way he did. He may actually have been trying to steady him. He looks like he thought he had his other leg and not his weight bearing one. You could see it in OG's reaction after the event happened.


A good assumption since it's totally out of character for OG to do anything dirty intentionally. He is not like that.

And Schroeder provoked him by hanging on tight far longer than necessary, not letting go.
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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#52 » by BD006 » Thu Apr 8, 2021 6:11 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
Zeno wrote:So if Raptors had Fred listed as out before suspension, this means him missing today’s game doesn’t count as serving the suspension, right?

He serves the suspension once he’s physically cleared


So can the team clear him one game earlier than he's really ready?


Meanwhile Schroeder who provoked the whole thing gets nothing.


Schroeder gave a hard, normal, "wrap-up" foul... what does he deserve? He reacted how anyone who got a side slam would have reacted.

I do agree, that it looked worse than it seemed and I don't believe OG had any intent on his part. It looked like OG had one leg, and Schroeder lost his other/balance resulting in falling back.
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Post#53 » by theocratic_n'_nature » Thu Apr 8, 2021 6:12 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Wtf... Fred and OG should be suspended for the season. There is no place in the NBA for their actions and they should be punished accordingly :)


Not far enough. Their best friends on the team also should be suspended for the year, which according to some, would be Pascal and Trent. All two way contracts are immediately promoted to the starting line up averaging at least 35 minutes per game. And finally, the head coach is to exchange organizational roles with the team mascot.

Sometimes, you just gotta nip these things in the bud.
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Post#54 » by Bruin » Thu Apr 8, 2021 6:15 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:Wtf... Fred and OG should be suspended for the season. There is no place in the NBA for their actions and they should be punished accordingly :)


Not far enough. Their best friends on the team also should be suspended for the year, which according to some, would be Pascal and Trent. All two way contracts are immediately promoted to the starting line up averaging at least 35 minutes per game. And finally, the head coach is to exchange organizational roles with the team mascot.

Sometimes, you just gotta nip these things in the bud.

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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#55 » by metafisical » Thu Apr 8, 2021 6:15 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Wtf... Fred and OG should be suspended for the season. There is no place in the NBA for their actions and they should be punished accordingly :)


I know. The NBA response to the Lakers-Raps game is ridiculous. FVV, OG and Bembry easily deserve to be suspended for the season. Man, our team got a slap on the wrist.
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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#56 » by VancouverRaps » Thu Apr 8, 2021 6:22 pm

These are automatic suspensions, I believe other leagues like the NHL operate the same way when it comes to leaving the bench during an altercation.
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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#57 » by Hero_Panda » Thu Apr 8, 2021 6:35 pm

They should suspend them 10 games (with pay).
That will send a message to the entire league.
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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#58 » by rocky_da_best » Thu Apr 8, 2021 7:18 pm

BD006 wrote:Tankers should be happy


Their next slant:
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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#59 » by Zeno » Thu Apr 8, 2021 7:31 pm

Let’s say one more guy left the bench, I wonder if the NBA would have forced a walkover. Probably not since they are all about the money so they’d stagger the suspensions because the show must go on. But who cares if the show sucks.
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Re: Fred and Bembry Suspended 1 game 

Post#60 » by DelAbbot » Thu Apr 8, 2021 7:32 pm

We are not picky. Any loss is a good loss. But any win is a fake win, rest of this year.
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