PG: Trent Career high

[anotherhomer]

Build around scary Gary. Life without Siakam ain’t too bad

guy's good but he went off against a bottom-tier team that was intentionally tanking and not playing D

hard to draw conclusion, whether dude can do that against a good motivated defensive team

[720]

People want to build around a role player. I'm done. lol

[Bruin]

Build around scary Gary. Life without Siakam ain’t too bad

guy's good but he went off against a bottom-tier team that was intentionally tanking and not playing D

hard to draw conclusion, whether dude can do that against a good motivated defensive team

When a team tanks it doesn’t mean the players on the court aren’t trying. That’s not how it works. Role Players don’t care what pick the team gets since they’d be the ones getting replaced. It’s their careers on the line so they will do their best to play well and impress for their next contracts. The concept of tanking seems to be misunderstood by many.

Tanking is when a team doesn’t have talent to win, it doesn’t mean the players aren’t trying their best

[will]

Build around scary Gary. Life without Siakam ain’t too bad

guy's good but he went off against a bottom-tier team that was intentionally tanking and not playing D

hard to draw conclusion, whether dude can do that against a good motivated defensive team

When a team tanks it doesn’t mean the players on the court aren’t trying. That’s not how it works. Role Players don’t care what pick the team gets since they’d be the ones getting replaced. It’s their careers on the line so they will do their best to play well and impress for their next contracts. The concept of tanking seems to be misunderstood by many.

Tanking is when a team doesn’t have talent to win, it doesn’t mean the players aren’t trying their best

Real talk, PrinceAli!

Players - especially bench players playing on 2 way contracts, and playing with contracts where the team holds the right to pick up the option...they won't just tank and stop putting forth effort because a bunch of doofs on a realgm message board want the team to fade4cade.

Basically, pro ballers and the Raps management will not listen to a bunch of high schoolers and college students clamoring for a money making franchise to tank.

Doofs.

[anotherhomer]

i get you guys....i didn't watch the game,
But I caught the comment that Will (not realgm Will, but Lou Will unless both the same person )
mention Cleveland sleep walked through this

If some knowledge posters can comment whether they felt Gary can replicate this against better competition, i be interested to know

guy's good but he went off against a bottom-tier team that was intentionally tanking and not playing D

hard to draw conclusion, whether dude can do that against a good motivated defensive team

When a team tanks it doesn’t mean the players on the court aren’t trying. That’s not how it works. Role Players don’t care what pick the team gets since they’d be the ones getting replaced. It’s their careers on the line so they will do their best to play well and impress for their next contracts. The concept of tanking seems to be misunderstood by many.

Tanking is when a team doesn’t have talent to win, it doesn’t mean the players aren’t trying their best

Real talk, PrinceAli!

Players - especially bench players playing on 2 way contracts, and playing with contracts where the team holds the right to pick up the option...they won't just tank and stop putting forth effort because a bunch of doofs on a realgm message board want the team to fade4cade.

Basically, pro ballers and the Raps management will not listen to a bunch of high schoolers and college students clamoring for a money making franchise to tank.

Doofs.

[Lateral Quicks]

Various Raptors have had games like Trent just had through the years. Terrence Ross comes to mind. You can't evaluate a player based on their best game.

Trent is a very 3-point shooter, which is the most valuable skill in today's NBA. So he's going to get paid. But as of now he's rather one-dimensional and the advanced stats aren't complimentary of him on defense.

He's only 22 so he can still improve, but this is also his 4th year in the league and he hasn't shown much improvement to date. We can use the offense, but there's a good chance his contract will prove to be a big overpay. A sign-and-trade is probably a better option.

I get the point you're trying to make, but Ross had a 51-point game on 76 TS% and never scored 30+ in any of his other ~400 games with Toronto. Trent already has a few +30-point games, one of which was the highly efficient 44-point game last night, and won a game for us at the buzzer in less than 3 weeks.

Trent is also in his 3rd year, but he played just 15 games -- averaging 7.4 MPG -- in his rookie season. He's more like a sophomore than in his 4th year. And to say he hasn't shown improvement is wrong. He scored 10+ twice in his first 25 games then 10+ 6 times in the next 25 games. He started to breakout near the end of last season in the bubble (averaged 13 PPG on 47% shooting) and has carried that over this year, averaging 15.5 PPG while scoring 10+ in 37 of 50 games. Even more recently, he has set a new career-high twice in his limited time with Toronto while displaying a pretty wide range of scoring ability and 42% of his FGM have been unassisted.

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My mistake, you're right it's his 3rd year.

I don't consider higher usage an improvement by itself. In terms of his percentages, not much has changed - in fact you could argue he's regressed from last year.

[will]

i get you guys....i didn't watch the game,
But I caught the comment that Will (not realgm Will, but Lou Will unless both the same person )
mention Cleveland sleep walked through this

If some knowledge posters can comment whether they felt Gary can replicate this against better competition, i be interested to know

When a team tanks it doesn’t mean the players on the court aren’t trying. That’s not how it works. Role Players don’t care what pick the team gets since they’d be the ones getting replaced. It’s their careers on the line so they will do their best to play well and impress for their next contracts. The concept of tanking seems to be misunderstood by many.

Tanking is when a team doesn’t have talent to win, it doesn’t mean the players aren’t trying their best

Real talk, PrinceAli!

Players - especially bench players playing on 2 way contracts, and playing with contracts where the team holds the right to pick up the option...they won't just tank and stop putting forth effort because a bunch of doofs on a realgm message board want the team to fade4cade.

Basically, pro ballers and the Raps management will not listen to a bunch of high schoolers and college students clamoring for a money making franchise to tank.

Doofs.

It was the Gary Trent Jr. homecoming in his home state.

[TD2FutureStar]

People want to build around a role player. I'm done. lol

We already are though. Gave Siakam the max lmao

[Psubs]

My mistake, you're right it's his 3rd year.

I don't consider higher usage an improvement by itself. In terms of his percentages, not much has changed - in fact you could argue he's regressed from last year.

Higher usage but with only a slight drop in efficiency is an improvement.

Ross and Clarkson can't handle the heavy lifting and all they comes with being a starting SG in the league, thus they are just elite scorers off the bench.

[MavCarter]

People want to build around a role player. I'm done. lol

We already are though. Gave Siakam the max lmao

If siakam is a role player then the man in your username should be in shanghai

[h4rrison]

GTJ is ballin. Any chance we get outbid?

No idea what their cap situation is, but someone mentioned in the General Board that Pelicans should make a run at stealing GTJ. Imagine if they get rid of Bledsoe and GTJ slots in with Lonzo, Ingram, Zion, and Adams/Hayes moving forward? Scary core that’ll be a problem for years to come. GTJ’s perimeter shooting fits in way better for them than what Bledsoe gives them.

He's an RFA. If Raps want him, they got him.

Not that simple man. We're not maxing him and who knows what a team like the Cavs or Knicks might offer.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

No idea what their cap situation is, but someone mentioned in the General Board that Pelicans should make a run at stealing GTJ. Imagine if they get rid of Bledsoe and GTJ slots in with Lonzo, Ingram, Zion, and Adams/Hayes moving forward? Scary core that’ll be a problem for years to come. GTJ’s perimeter shooting fits in way better for them than what Bledsoe gives them.

He's an RFA. If Raps want him, they got him.

Not that simple man. We're not maxing him and who knows what a team like the Cavs or Knicks might offer.

cavs and knicks are outlier but pels don't have enough cap. they can offer him $19M I think if they renounce Ball but I don't they would do that.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

rose is a good scorer off the bench we could get for next year.

[WaltFrazier]

The egocentric players sit and suddenly the entire team plays free and with energy.

I don't totally endorse that opinion, but it would really be nice if Fred and Pascal noticed the free flowing ball movement and saw how effective that makes the offense.

If you've watched this team at all this year you already know the answer to that question. And it's... They won't. FVV has let his ego get out of control since getting his bag. And Pascal has been a dumpster fire since getting his as well. They think that because they're now the highest paid guys on the team that somehow they can forsake all team dynamics in order to "get theirs". And as such will continue to chuck shots and ignore team mates at every opportunity.

Well Pascal came back vs Knicks and the ball movement from the Cavs game dwindled. Even Kyle could offset it

[Coco Costanza]

People want to build around a role player. I'm done. lol

To be fair, he's outplaying our actual stars.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

They actually need to run more Gary/Siakam pnr. The Knicks started the game hard hedging him from jump to prevent the pull up 3 which means the screener will almost always be open on the short roll. If Siakam would get a clue and learn how to take a FT baby jumper instead of a highly contested layup he’d get easy buckets

[Psubs]

They actually need to run more Gary/Siakam pnr. The Knicks started the game hard hedging him from jump to prevent the pull up 3 which means the screener will almost always be open on the short roll. If Siakam would get a clue and learn how to take a FT baby jumper instead of a highly contested layup he’d get easy buckets

I think you mean "make" a FT baby jumper not take. Siakam just needs to stop shooting 3's like Ben Simmons, help the team win.