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Blazers Projected Gary Trent Jr Would Receive 15 Million Plus In Free Agency

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Re: Blazers Projected Gary Trent Jr Would Receive 15 Million Plus In Free Agency 

Post#161 » by kj_ » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:11 pm

Shot selection will be his biggest growth area. Raps give lots of freedom on offence and Trent seems poised to explore that freedom. He makes some really tough shots which seems like a good thing but will likely hinder the young man’s development early on until he finds the best shots for himself to take. If he can refine that part of his game he can be very good. Not every shot is a good shot.


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Post#162 » by bstein14 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:32 pm

Have you looked at teams with capspace? According to the realgm article the Pistons have the 6th most "projected capspace" of any team at $13 million. So going into the summer it's projected only 6 teams have more than MLE money to offer him.

Of course this could change depending on where FAs go but it seems like not a ton of teams can offer any FA's more than MLE type money.
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Post#164 » by DelAbbot » Mon May 17, 2021 1:25 am

I'm pinning this and all the posts claiming GTJ gonna get OG money.
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Re: Blazers Projected Gary Trent Jr Would Receive 15 Million Plus In Free Agency 

Post#165 » by mdenny » Mon May 17, 2021 2:26 am

Why do we care what he makes over his cap hold? Does it matter to us if he makes 5 milly per year or 15? Honest question.....not rhetorical. If his cap hold is around 4 milly.....what does it matter other than we need to spend some money on someone else first to get to the cap?
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Post#166 » by anotherhomer » Mon May 17, 2021 2:47 am

honestly, 4 yr 60M or 62M is only right
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Post#167 » by Psubs » Mon May 17, 2021 3:00 am

mdenny wrote:Why do we care what he makes over his cap hold? Does it matter to us if he makes 5 milly per year or 15? Honest question.....not rhetorical. If his cap hold is around 4 milly.....what does it matter other than we need to spend some money on someone else first to get to the cap?


When you're not going into the tax, those $1 milion here and there matter. Raptors traded a 2nd rounder to dump Monroe.

If they had a few more million, maybe they could've given Ibaka a larger 1 year deal for him to stay, with maybe a team option that partially guaranteed the balance of the total Clipper contract.
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Re: Blazers Projected Gary Trent Jr Would Receive 15 Million Plus In Free Agency 

Post#168 » by dacrusha » Mon May 17, 2021 3:07 am

With all the money that’s out there to be spent and the very limited FA pool available, expect GTJ to get some crazy big offers - the Knicks, Spurs and Mavs will be very much in the hunt for a young talent like GTJ.

The question is, at what limit do the Raptors not match?
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Post#169 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon May 17, 2021 3:10 am

If you're offering him the starting spot I could see paying him 15-20 per season, but if he's coming off the bench I wouldn't offer more than 10.
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Post#170 » by Steelo Green » Mon May 17, 2021 7:53 am

dacrusha wrote:With all the money that’s out there to be spent and the very limited FA pool available, expect GTJ to get some crazy big offers - the Knicks, Spurs and Mavs will be very much in the hunt for a young talent like GTJ.

The question is, at what limit do the Raptors not match?

Unfortunately I think Raptors have no choice but to match because of the Norm optics.

Personally I wouldn’t sign GTJ at more than 12-13 mil but he will easily surpass that. He’s already rejected as much.
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Post#171 » by OAKLEY_2 » Mon May 17, 2021 10:17 am

mdenny wrote:Why do we care what he makes over his cap hold? Does it matter to us if he makes 5 milly per year or 15? Honest question.....not rhetorical. If his cap hold is around 4 milly.....what does it matter other than we need to spend some money on someone else first to get to the cap?


Yes it is the same issue for GTjr as it was for Fred or OG. The worry was Fred might get 25 and leave. Or OG will get Fred money like that is the new standard for raises. Somehow the numbers were still very specific to each player and not really predicted on realgm as per usual fan fears, opinions or whatever. Most fear that the players they usually take for granted will make too much harming free agent cap space and yet free agents we sign that are UFAs have a habit of never choosing us or just bombing. Bembry has turned out ok but he is not the type of free agent who soaks up cap space.. Trent Jr is worth 15 x multiple years. His agent is Rich Paul...
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Post#172 » by Ackshun » Mon May 17, 2021 12:07 pm

So many people here think Trent is a finished product, like he doesn't have an ability to improve at such a young age. You guys are in for a surprise.

It's also some of the same posters that think Pascal will improve a ton of stuff this off-season.
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Post#173 » by Steelo Green » Mon May 17, 2021 12:22 pm

Ackshun wrote:So many people here think Trent is a finished product, like he doesn't have an ability to improve at such a young age. You guys are in for a surprise.

It's also some of the same posters that think Pascal will improve a ton of stuff this off-season.

Again - this isn’t even close to what was said.

Trent’s skills determine where he will grow.

He won’t magically become a playmaker because he is 22 and will simply improve.

He’s just a three point shooter with little else to his game. He can be fire one night and disappear the next.

As of now 39% from the field and 35% from three is nothing to get too excited about.
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Post#174 » by refshateRaps » Mon May 17, 2021 12:39 pm

Steelo Green wrote:
Ackshun wrote:So many people here think Trent is a finished product, like he doesn't have an ability to improve at such a young age. You guys are in for a surprise.

It's also some of the same posters that think Pascal will improve a ton of stuff this off-season.

Again - this isn’t even close to what was said.

Trent’s skills determine where he will grow.

He won’t magically become a playmaker because he is 22 and will simply improve.

He’s just a three point shooter with little else to his game. He can be fire one night and disappear the next.

As of now 39% from the field and 35% from three is nothing to get too excited about.


I used to fell the same way about Norm if not less at times.

I have to believe that GTJ will grow well in our system if his work ethic is there
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Post#175 » by Ackshun » Mon May 17, 2021 12:58 pm

refshateRaps wrote:
Steelo Green wrote:
Ackshun wrote:So many people here think Trent is a finished product, like he doesn't have an ability to improve at such a young age. You guys are in for a surprise.

It's also some of the same posters that think Pascal will improve a ton of stuff this off-season.

Again - this isn’t even close to what was said.

Trent’s skills determine where he will grow.

He won’t magically become a playmaker because he is 22 and will simply improve.

He’s just a three point shooter with little else to his game. He can be fire one night and disappear the next.

As of now 39% from the field and 35% from three is nothing to get too excited about.


I used to fell the same way about Norm if not less at times.

I have to believe that GTJ will grow well in our system if his work ethic is there


See I was the opposite. After our Kawhi run, I figured he was a finished product. But nope. Dude balled out of control after
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Re: Blazers Projected Gary Trent Jr Would Receive 15 Million Plus In Free Agency 

Post#176 » by Ackshun » Mon May 17, 2021 12:58 pm

Steelo Green wrote:
Ackshun wrote:So many people here think Trent is a finished product, like he doesn't have an ability to improve at such a young age. You guys are in for a surprise.

It's also some of the same posters that think Pascal will improve a ton of stuff this off-season.

Again - this isn’t even close to what was said.

Trent’s skills determine where he will grow.

He won’t magically become a playmaker because he is 22 and will simply improve.

He’s just a three point shooter with little else to his game. He can be fire one night and disappear the next.

As of now 39% from the field and 35% from three is nothing to get too excited about.


Not gonna bother reading past the first line.

You're repulsive dude.

I'd suggest putting each other on ignore. Please no more personal attacks or we will hand out warnings.
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Post#177 » by Steelo Green » Mon May 17, 2021 1:26 pm

refshateRaps wrote:
Steelo Green wrote:
Ackshun wrote:So many people here think Trent is a finished product, like he doesn't have an ability to improve at such a young age. You guys are in for a surprise.

It's also some of the same posters that think Pascal will improve a ton of stuff this off-season.

Again - this isn’t even close to what was said.

Trent’s skills determine where he will grow.

He won’t magically become a playmaker because he is 22 and will simply improve.

He’s just a three point shooter with little else to his game. He can be fire one night and disappear the next.

As of now 39% from the field and 35% from three is nothing to get too excited about.


I used to fell the same way about Norm if not less at times.

I have to believe that GTJ will grow well in our system if his work ethic is there

Growth isn’t equal or linear and Trent is even more one trick than Norm.

Will Trent get better? Yes.
Will be magically do things he was never touted to do as a prospect or now? Unlikely. It happens but you take things on face value not magical improvements.
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Post#178 » by brownbobcat » Mon May 17, 2021 1:57 pm

mdenny wrote:Why do we care what he makes over his cap hold? Does it matter to us if he makes 5 milly per year or 15? Honest question.....not rhetorical. If his cap hold is around 4 milly.....what does it matter other than we need to spend some money on someone else first to get to the cap?

Well, it matter insofar as overpaying generally hurts the building of a good team. It matters much less when a team is already a contender, but that's not the Raptors' situation now.
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Post#179 » by Los_29 » Mon May 17, 2021 2:45 pm

GTJ is definitely worth retaining if we can lock him up to a reasonable deal. I don't see him becoming a star in this league but he's shown enough during his time here and in Portland that he can be a pretty darn good player. I never thought 26 year old Norm would develop into much of a player and look at him now. GTJ is only 22 and is much closer to current Norm than to 26 year old Norm. At 15m a year he's a good young asset moving forward.
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Post#180 » by CAA » Mon May 17, 2021 2:59 pm

brownbobcat wrote:
mdenny wrote:Why do we care what he makes over his cap hold? Does it matter to us if he makes 5 milly per year or 15? Honest question.....not rhetorical. If his cap hold is around 4 milly.....what does it matter other than we need to spend some money on someone else first to get to the cap?

Well, it matter insofar as overpaying generally hurts the building of a good team. It matters much less when a team is already a contender, but that's not the Raptors' situation now.


Why isn't anyone talking about GTJ as a Sign & Trade asset?

Everyone is so focused on the idea of Kyle being an S&T option but the Raps can do the same with Gary - either immediately (as long as he doesn't sign on offer sheet with a different team first) or throughout the season(s).

A young shooter on a $13-$16M/yr contract is moveable and should help us get value. Doesn't matter if he wears a Raps jersey for long.

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