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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#241 » by Hero_Panda » Tue May 25, 2021 7:31 pm

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To be fair almost all teams lost players due to injury or covid this season. There are also reports, true or not, that Warren asked for a trade once Nate was hired because of the time he spent with him while with the Suns. I do not even want this guy back with the Raptors to be honest. Where there is smoke there is fire.


You must also missed the reports where Warren welcomed Nate to Indiana upon learning of the hire and that Warren tweeted out that the media not use him for their false narratives.

Don't believe everything what the "reports" say, especially considering Nate was with the team for 2 years and the Raptors players showed their support for him.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#242 » by dkb9696 » Tue May 25, 2021 7:51 pm

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dkb9696 wrote:
To be fair almost all teams lost players due to injury or covid this season. There are also reports, true or not, that Warren asked for a trade once Nate was hired because of the time he spent with him while with the Suns. I do not even want this guy back with the Raptors to be honest. Where there is smoke there is fire.


You must also missed the reports where Warren welcomed Nate to Indiana upon learning of the hire and that Warren tweeted out that the media not use him for their false narratives.

Don't believe everything what the "reports" say, especially considering Nate was with the team for 2 years and the Raptors players showed their support for him.


I did miss what Warren said, but to be fair what else was he suppose to say publicly. It seems apparent that the man is on some power trip though. If he gets fired after one season then maybe that would put his ego is check. He also played an up tempo style of basketball with a gritty team ala the Grizzles, but more talented which made zero sense. I think the man is out of his depth. Get that ego in check and not treat people around you like **** and I imagine he would be a good assistant coach sure. I suppose.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#243 » by will » Tue May 25, 2021 8:54 pm

Kevin Pritchard point the index finger at Nate, whilst at the same time 3 are pointing right back at Kevin himself.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#244 » by Raps in 4 » Tue May 25, 2021 9:20 pm

MikeM wrote:Well Nate was fine here. So you have a guy that was fine one place and not fine in another place. And that same place has been through a couple coaches already and had lockerroom drama before Nate arrived.

So most likely, Nate is a bit of a dick but the players just have no desire to make it work.


He was fine as an assistant coach. That doesn't tell you anything about how he'll be as a HC.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#245 » by mtcan » Tue May 25, 2021 9:39 pm

Hero_Panda wrote:
dkb9696 wrote:
To be fair almost all teams lost players due to injury or covid this season. There are also reports, true or not, that Warren asked for a trade once Nate was hired because of the time he spent with him while with the Suns. I do not even want this guy back with the Raptors to be honest. Where there is smoke there is fire.


You must also missed the reports where Warren welcomed Nate to Indiana upon learning of the hire and that Warren tweeted out that the media not use him for their false narratives.

Don't believe everything what the "reports" say, especially considering Nate was with the team for 2 years and the Raptors players showed their support for him.

I'm not sure how real those reports are...

I don't doubt that Nate may well be a difficult guy to work with as a head coach...but what was published about him a couple of weeks ago screams hit piece by the front office to push him out...the reasons why I cannot figure out...but nonetheless it's totally unprofessional.

I don't know for sure how TJ reacted to Nate's hiring...and TJ could have said nothing but instead tweeted this out when Nate was hired:

Read on Twitter


This doesn't seem like a dude that knew Nate was going to be bad news at the start. Like I said...saying nothing at the time of the hiring would have been the way to handle things if TJ really didn't like Nate.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#246 » by alienchild » Tue May 25, 2021 9:55 pm

If you hired the wrong guy to coach, you fire the guy that hired him.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#247 » by dkb9696 » Tue May 25, 2021 11:48 pm

mtcan wrote:
Hero_Panda wrote:
dkb9696 wrote:
To be fair almost all teams lost players due to injury or covid this season. There are also reports, true or not, that Warren asked for a trade once Nate was hired because of the time he spent with him while with the Suns. I do not even want this guy back with the Raptors to be honest. Where there is smoke there is fire.


You must also missed the reports where Warren welcomed Nate to Indiana upon learning of the hire and that Warren tweeted out that the media not use him for their false narratives.

Don't believe everything what the "reports" say, especially considering Nate was with the team for 2 years and the Raptors players showed their support for him.

I'm not sure how real those reports are...

I don't doubt that Nate may well be a difficult guy to work with as a head coach...but what was published about him a couple of weeks ago screams hit piece by the front office to push him out...the reasons why I cannot figure out...but nonetheless it's totally unprofessional.

I don't know for sure how TJ reacted to Nate's hiring...and TJ could have said nothing but instead tweeted this out when Nate was hired:

Read on Twitter


This doesn't seem like a dude that knew Nate was going to be bad news at the start. Like I said...saying nothing at the time of the hiring would have been the way to handle things if TJ really didn't like Nate.


They were a 4th seed last year. Hired a new coach who finished 10th, while firing the coach that was let go and finished 4th with the Hawks.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#248 » by dkb9696 » Wed May 26, 2021 12:27 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
MikeM wrote:Well Nate was fine here. So you have a guy that was fine one place and not fine in another place. And that same place has been through a couple coaches already and had lockerroom drama before Nate arrived.

So most likely, Nate is a bit of a dick but the players just have no desire to make it work.


He was fine as an assistant coach. That doesn't tell you anything about how he'll be as a HC.

A nobody with an ego is why nate may be asked to go away.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#249 » by mtcan » Wed May 26, 2021 12:52 am

dkb9696 wrote:
mtcan wrote:
Hero_Panda wrote:
You must also missed the reports where Warren welcomed Nate to Indiana upon learning of the hire and that Warren tweeted out that the media not use him for their false narratives.

Don't believe everything what the "reports" say, especially considering Nate was with the team for 2 years and the Raptors players showed their support for him.

I'm not sure how real those reports are...

I don't doubt that Nate may well be a difficult guy to work with as a head coach...but what was published about him a couple of weeks ago screams hit piece by the front office to push him out...the reasons why I cannot figure out...but nonetheless it's totally unprofessional.

I don't know for sure how TJ reacted to Nate's hiring...and TJ could have said nothing but instead tweeted this out when Nate was hired:

Read on Twitter


This doesn't seem like a dude that knew Nate was going to be bad news at the start. Like I said...saying nothing at the time of the hiring would have been the way to handle things if TJ really didn't like Nate.


They were a 4th seed last year. Hired a new coach who finished 10th, while firing the coach that was let go and finished 4th with the Hawks.

They finished 4th last season with a fully healthy squad and a TJ Warren who went thermonuclear in the bubble. It's different when you are missing 2/5 of your starting line-up for majority of the season.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#250 » by dkb9696 » Wed May 26, 2021 1:10 am

mtcan wrote:
dkb9696 wrote:
mtcan wrote:I'm not sure how real those reports are...

I don't doubt that Nate may well be a difficult guy to work with as a head coach...but what was published about him a couple of weeks ago screams hit piece by the front office to push him out...the reasons why I cannot figure out...but nonetheless it's totally unprofessional.

I don't know for sure how TJ reacted to Nate's hiring...and TJ could have said nothing but instead tweeted this out when Nate was hired:

Read on Twitter


This doesn't seem like a dude that knew Nate was going to be bad news at the start. Like I said...saying nothing at the time of the hiring would have been the way to handle things if TJ really didn't like Nate.


They were a 4th seed last year. Hired a new coach who finished 10th, while firing the coach that was let go and finished 4th with the Hawks.

They finished 4th last season with a fully healthy squad and a TJ Warren who went thermonuclear in the bubble. It's different when you are missing 2/5 of your starting line-up for majority of the season.


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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#251 » by blastttOFF » Wed Jun 9, 2021 4:41 pm

Dude got canned ‘for losing the locker room’. Bring em home Masai.

Pacers a bunch of loser mentality players anyway who can’t accept constructive criticism.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#252 » by radeonboy » Wed Jun 9, 2021 4:43 pm

Dude was sabotaged by the media with unnamed sources which is likely Pacers top management politics.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#253 » by traps#10 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 4:50 pm

Bring him home
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#254 » by MixxSRC » Wed Jun 9, 2021 4:59 pm

radeonboy wrote:Dude was sabotaged by the media with unnamed sources which is likely Pacers top management politics.


It was classic character assassination so that firing is easier.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#255 » by AJ416 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 5:13 pm

Loved him as an assistant, offensively minded and just a smart guy. We'd be lucky to have him back and i am sure the time away made him even more well rounded.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#256 » by alpngso » Wed Jun 9, 2021 5:14 pm

maybe he’s just not cut out to be a head coach and better suited as x and o guy

hopefully this is not the end for him
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#257 » by Hero_Panda » Wed Jun 9, 2021 5:24 pm

alpngso wrote:maybe he’s just not cut out to be a head coach and better suited as x and o guy

hopefully this is not the end for him


That's fine, but don't throw the dude's reputation in the mud.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#258 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Wed Jun 9, 2021 5:28 pm

The writing is on the wall when Oshae Brissett started playing heavy minutes for them.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#259 » by kalel123 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 6:09 pm

If Raptors experience is that accusations are unfounded, no reason not to bring him back unless there's competition with another team to hiring him as assistant.
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Re: Woj: Bjorkgren could be on the outs with Indy 

Post#260 » by Badonkadonk » Wed Jun 9, 2021 6:11 pm

I'd love to have him back, but might be a sensitive thing to navigate. There's always a succession plan, and I'm sure there are expectations among the remaining staff and the sharp minds at the 905 (especially Patrick Mutombo) who have an eye on that lead assistant chair and the path to it.

Hopefully they can work it out, Nurse is clearly comfortable with Nate and they work great together.
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