Clutch0z24 wrote:KrazyP wrote:Vampirate wrote:
I'm hesitant to trade Siakam because I think he could get better (and raise his value).
I think FVV has just about maxed out though and will probably need to be moved sooner or later.
Either way, both are 27 and will be in their 30s by the time OG and Barnes hit their prime.
If Siakam was 3-4 years younger i'd say keep him, but he's not. (again i'm fine with keeping Siakam for a while and am ok trading him for the right deal)
Teams who put a roster full of 20 years old together with no legit veteran leadership generally end up becoming a farm system for the rest of the NBA.
More often than not, its a terrible development environment for younger players. Its one of the primary reasons the majority of straight up tanking teams fail.
Siakam and VanVleet are 27 yrs old on the cusp of their primes...people are acting like they're washed up 36 yr old vets. If a decent trade offer comes along you certainly entertain it but a properly managed team wouldnt exactly be in a rush to trade either of these guys.....Ujiri/Webster/Nurse are generally more patient and look at the big picture more than your average tankster.
Unfortunately for you even with Siakam/FVV on this team we are prolly not making the playoffs next year....We have an interesting team with alot of development but Siakam/FVV being your top dogs is not really the best guys to put along with a roster full of young guys who are going to make lots of mistakes out there...
The reason DD/Lowry could actually take us into a top seed in the East and make deep playoff runs was because they are just all around better players....
As much as DD gets discredited on this board he was a legit scoring option in the regular season most night and put the scoring loads on his back most games to get us reg season Ws and Lowry is just on another level of a player than anyone we currently have....
If OG comes in next season looking like a Legit go to player (Which i doubt) we are not making the playoffs next year regardless of trading FVV/Siakam
I agree that the DD/Lowry combo was underappreciated and much better than FVV/Siakam. That said, that doesnt mean that FVV/Siakam cant make a more competitive impact and provide more leadership than some random rookies. Its not a matter of making the playoffs or not, its a matter of having a properly structured, relatively competitive team.
If you flip your only legit vets for more young prospects, you'll end up with a summer league style roster that will produce a disorganzied/chaotic environment on the floor. Thats not the type of environment I'd want a guy like Scottie Barnes developing in.
