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So now Davion Mitchell has the playmaking ability of Lowry despite not being able to run a pnr or being an advanced ball handler, and the scoring potential of Donovan Mitchell despite him being an inferior athlete and lacking the size?
These comps are absurd.
These comps are absurd.
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billy_hoyle wrote:From a team building perspective, we are hoping to:
1. Win the lottery and draft Cade
2. Have the Cavs win the 2nd pick and draft Mobley.
Will the Cavs match a big RFA offer sheet on Allen if they have Mobley? Wouldn't they be better off spending their money on Collins, Markkanen etc?
FVV, Flynn
Cade, GTJ
OG,
Siakam, Boucher
Allen
That's an awesome looking team IMO.
Might contend quickly
There is zero chance of the Raps getting Allen. The Cavs have all the leverage, AND the positional need.
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Another interesting take on Moses Moody. In short, high floor and high ceiling. Worse case, 3&D wing with potential to be more…maybe much more!
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Federalies wrote:Another interesting take on Moses Moody. In short, high floor and high ceiling. Worse case, 3&D wing with potential to be more…maybe much more!
Has poor athlestism. could top out with no drive game and just a system shooter which im worried about.
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Federalies wrote:Another interesting take on Moses Moody. In short, high floor and high ceiling. Worse case, 3&D wing with potential to be more…maybe much more!
Are we all agreeing, he's Mikal Bridges 2.0, who is a couple of years ahead in development at the same age?
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StringerBell wrote:So now Davion Mitchell has the playmaking ability of Lowry despite not being able to run a pnr or being an advanced ball handler, and the scoring potential of Donovan Mitchell despite him being an inferior athlete and lacking the size?
These comps are absurd.
At least he could learn the PNR and work on his handle but I don't see him learning to put 6 inches of length on his arms so he can be Donovan
I think the last name, number and skin tone got people associating the wrong things.
This was probably Davion's plan all along. One of these GMs is looking at Donovan performing in the playoffs right now and the idea of taking Davion to high based off that association is taking root in his brain.
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What I like about him is that he gets to the free throw line/sells foul calls like a vet. Uses lots of fakes to get open mid range looks. underrated playmaker too. Plays with pace. Lots of potential and worth a pick as high as 7 IMOFederalies wrote:Another interesting take on Moses Moody. In short, high floor and high ceiling. Worse case, 3&D wing with potential to be more…maybe much more!
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Bridges is more athletic, but Moody is more crafty in mid rangePsubs wrote:Federalies wrote:Another interesting take on Moses Moody. In short, high floor and high ceiling. Worse case, 3&D wing with potential to be more…maybe much more!
Are we all agreeing, he's Mikal Bridges 2.0, who is a couple of years ahead in development at the same age?
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He is definitely not explosive but he's pretty smooth with good body control. Below the rim game mostly but should be able to create in the mid range after a year or twoWuTang_OG wrote:Federalies wrote:Another interesting take on Moses Moody. In short, high floor and high ceiling. Worse case, 3&D wing with potential to be more…maybe much more!
Has poor athlestism. could top out with no drive game and just a system shooter which im worried about.
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Grew wrote:StringerBell wrote:So now Davion Mitchell has the playmaking ability of Lowry despite not being able to run a pnr or being an advanced ball handler, and the scoring potential of Donovan Mitchell despite him being an inferior athlete and lacking the size?
These comps are absurd.
At least he could learn the PNR and work on his handle but I don't see him learning to put 6 inches of length on his arms so he can be Donovan
I think the last name, number and skin tone got people associating the wrong things.
This was probably Davion's plan all along. One of these GMs is looking at Donovan performing in the playoffs right now and the idea of taking Davion to high based off that association is taking root in his brain.
This is truly sad that your brain operates this way.
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Federalies wrote:Another interesting take on Moses Moody. In short, high floor and high ceiling. Worse case, 3&D wing with potential to be more…maybe much more!
So was DeAndre Hunter better than Moody coming out of the draft?
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Badonkadonk wrote:billy_hoyle wrote:From a team building perspective, we are hoping to:
1. Win the lottery and draft Cade
2. Have the Cavs win the 2nd pick and draft Mobley.
Will the Cavs match a big RFA offer sheet on Allen if they have Mobley? Wouldn't they be better off spending their money on Collins, Markkanen etc?
FVV, Flynn
Cade, GTJ
OG,
Siakam, Boucher
Allen
That's an awesome looking team IMO.
Might contend quickly
There is zero chance of the Raps getting Allen. The Cavs have all the leverage, AND the positional need.
So if Cavs draft Mobley, they are gonna want to tie up a near $20m for a potential back up 5?
Or you think Mobley at the 4 plays?
I think positional need changes with the Cavs getting Mobley.
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StringerBell wrote:So now Davion Mitchell has the playmaking ability of Lowry despite not being able to run a pnr or being an advanced ball handler, and the scoring potential of Donovan Mitchell despite him being an inferior athlete and lacking the size?
These comps are absurd.
Happens every year. Guys get over hyped by fans and then said fans turn on their favorite prospect when they don't live up to these wild, unrealistic expectations.
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Rodrickle wrote:He is definitely not explosive but he's pretty smooth with good body control. Below the rim game mostly but should be able to create in the mid range after a year or twoWuTang_OG wrote:Federalies wrote:Another interesting take on Moses Moody. In short, high floor and high ceiling. Worse case, 3&D wing with potential to be more…maybe much more!
Has poor athlestism. could top out with no drive game and just a system shooter which im worried about.
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It's taken OG at least 3 years to have some sort of drive and create game. Will be a good player but not crazy about his ceiling.
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TD2FutureStar wrote:StringerBell wrote:So now Davion Mitchell has the playmaking ability of Lowry despite not being able to run a pnr or being an advanced ball handler, and the scoring potential of Donovan Mitchell despite him being an inferior athlete and lacking the size?
These comps are absurd.
Happens every year. Guys get over hyped by fans and then said fans turn on their favorite prospect when they don't live up to these wild, unrealistic expectations.
LOL gotta love your username
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Rodrickle wrote:What I like about him is that he gets to the free throw line/sells foul calls like a vet. Uses lots of fakes to get open mid range looks. underrated playmaker too. Plays with pace. Lots of potential and worth a pick as high as 7 IMOFederalies wrote:Another interesting take on Moses Moody. In short, high floor and high ceiling. Worse case, 3&D wing with potential to be more…maybe much more!
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When we fall to the 9th pick this is the guy we're taking.
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billy_hoyle wrote:Badonkadonk wrote:billy_hoyle wrote:From a team building perspective, we are hoping to:
1. Win the lottery and draft Cade
2. Have the Cavs win the 2nd pick and draft Mobley.
Will the Cavs match a big RFA offer sheet on Allen if they have Mobley? Wouldn't they be better off spending their money on Collins, Markkanen etc?
FVV, Flynn
Cade, GTJ
OG,
Siakam, Boucher
Allen
That's an awesome looking team IMO.
Might contend quickly
There is zero chance of the Raps getting Allen. The Cavs have all the leverage, AND the positional need.
So if Cavs draft Mobley, they are gonna want to tie up a near $20m for a potential back up 5?
Or you think Mobley at the 4 plays?
I think positional need changes with the Cavs getting Mobley.
I think Mobley at the 4 definitely plays. One big reason he's popular is because he's a true modern big - he can switch, he has range, he has good instincts on both ends, he's athletic etc.
Blake Murphy had an excellent analysis of Mobley and what separates him from other prospect bigs: https://theathletic.com/2639377/2021/06/09/why-evan-mobley-is-a-great-fit-with-the-raptors-in-the-nos-2-4-range-of-the-nba-draft/
Here's a good snippet:
With Mobley, the skillset expands beyond just grab-and-go. He possesses legitimate playmaking skills for a 19-year-old frontcourt player. That same easy athleticism and handle that lets him run in transition makes him a fluid offensive piece in several different scenarios. Mobley can drive and extend past other fours and fives, hit a short-roll jumper, finish inside with touch and operate out of the mid-post for others. Most notably for how the Raptors like to use their centres, Mobley is adept at playing in dribble hand-offs, where he can threaten as a passer and scorer.
And while Mobley didn’t shoot many 3s this year (12-of-40), even showing occasional range out that far is encouraging with where he is on his developmental curve. He even flashed a one-dribble pull-up. If his ability to create his own shot from the perimeter can carry over — something he has the skills for but may need to add strength and toughness to truly unleash — the offensive package is very intriguing. He has the perimeter skills of a wing with the play-type functionality of a big, which is the sort of profile that can exponentially raise the play of a lineup.
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alpngso wrote:Federalies wrote:Another interesting take on Moses Moody. In short, high floor and high ceiling. Worse case, 3&D wing with potential to be more…maybe much more!
So was DeAndre Hunter better than Moody coming out of the draft?
Yes...could do more around the basket and he was physically stronger. May not sound like much but that's a HUGE thing that separates Kawhi from Middleton.
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Grew wrote:StringerBell wrote:So now Davion Mitchell has the playmaking ability of Lowry despite not being able to run a pnr or being an advanced ball handler, and the scoring potential of Donovan Mitchell despite him being an inferior athlete and lacking the size?
These comps are absurd.
At least he could learn the PNR and work on his handle but I don't see him learning to put 6 inches of length on his arms so he can be Donovan
I think the last name, number and skin tone got people associating the wrong things.
This was probably Davion's plan all along. One of these GMs is looking at Donovan performing in the playoffs right now and the idea of taking Davion to high based off that association is taking root in his brain.
So according to you it's last name, skin color the reason why people are comparing him to Donovan Mitchell...has nothing to do with his quick first step, ability to stop at dime, change direction, ability to get to the rim with ease..
By the way they said the same thing about Donovan Mitchell coming out of college..he is to small, not skilled enough, etc .. that is why he was picked #13 . But today if that draft was redone, the only player that has case getting picked ahead of him is Jayson Tatum ...