PerfectJab wrote:dagger wrote:Vince and DeMar. Vince put us on the map, and I still think his 48 point playoff game against the Sixers was the single greatest playoff performance of a Raptor to date. Demar, because he was a multi-year all-star who was critical to our rise to perennial playoff status. I wouldn't let anyone wear #2 for a long time, but I wouldn't retire it. I am inclined not to retire #4, but when he gets into the Hall of Fame, if he gives the Raptors their due for developing him, I might reconsider.
I've never understood what the heck this meant. People spew statements, begging the question, without knowing what they are saying assuming it is true based on its frequency of use.
When he left the franchise was in shambles and we were a losing team during and after his tenure. Did he help cement the roadmap of Toronto losing? Is that what putting Toronto on the basketball map means?
Is it due to US media exposure? Additional US media exposure validates a team and puts them on the map? If it is, I don't know why this would make anyone or any team feel validated not to mention this very exposure went away after he left. So putting a team on a map is temporary?
Did VC help with recruitment? Free agents were not flocking to the city during and after his departure.
How exactly did he put one of the largest cities in North America that is a proven sports city on the map? Were people unaware of that a team named the Toronto Raptor's existed despite seeing them in the standings and facing them as an opponent?
When you say "When he left the franchise was in shambles," are you talking about Stoudamire, Bosh, Vince or someone else? The team was in shambles because Raptors management was a shamble, Babcock in particular. If Vince was drafted with Masai at the helm, it would've been a whole different story. You can't blame any player of that era for Raptors gross mismanagement.
It's hard to prove whether anyone helped with recruitment, but reports back then did indicate Vince tried to recruit other players but it was even more difficult than today because no one really knew about Toronto other than it was cold and not American. Here's one report saying Vince tried to recruit Shaq (here).
Re putting Tor on the map, I think what it really means is Vince raised the profile of the team and the city to Americans who hadn't a clue (i.e., most of them). Such as: Vince was on ESPN almost weekly; rap stars were wearing Vince's Raptors jersey; we had a rare Christmas Day game; Vince's annual summer charity basketball tournament int TO was televised, etc.