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Pascal Shoulder surgery - Recovery 5 months

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Re: Pascal Shoulder surgery - Recovery 5 months 

Post#41 » by AbC? » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:41 pm

Very disappointing news.

If this was an overuse injury then management and training staff should be held responsible for playing him when there was no need to.

He really needed a full summer of development to tighten up his game and get his mind right again. This injury really dampens my expectations of him long-term.

Siakam without a summer/training camp is going to be painful to watch.
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Post#42 » by johanliebert » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:44 pm

AbC? wrote:Very disappointing news.

If this was an overuse injury then management and training staff should be held responsible for playing him when there was no need to.

He really needed a full summer of development to tighten up his game and get his mind right again. This injury really dampens my expectations of him long-term.

Siakam without a summer/training camp is going to be painful to watch.

He can still work on his game he just can’t be in any live runs.

Where do we get to the point where guys getting paid millions shouldn’t play when healthy? There are no pointless regular season games he’s paid to play, injuries are apart of the game
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Post#43 » by Yallbecrazy » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:45 pm

XTC wrote:Hows next years draft? This might be a low key blessing. Develop OG further, let our draft pick flourish, tank another season, see where we go from there. Raises the possibility we might draft a forward (Barnes, Kuminga, etc), and if they show enough, we might be able to trade Pascal for help at other positions.

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Post#44 » by bon » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:46 pm

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:whole offseason of work to get better is gone. why was he playing 40 mins a game while we were openly tanking

Didn't he injure this shoulder in his last game (vs Memphis)?

**** this sucks though. He still won't get a full offseason to himself.
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Post#45 » by johanliebert » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:46 pm

Depending on how fa and the draft goes this shouldn’t be a big blow. It’s not like he raises the ceiling for this team.
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Post#46 » by alienchild » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:47 pm

Stop going hyper over his stats.

This is why we'll miss him:

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Post#47 » by JShuttlesworth » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:49 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
XTC wrote:Hows next years draft? This might be a low key blessing. Develop OG further, let our draft pick flourish, tank another season, see where we go from there. Raises the possibility we might draft a forward (Barnes, Kuminga, etc), and if they show enough, we might be able to trade Pascal for help at other positions.

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Post#48 » by RapsFanInOhio » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:49 pm

Uh oh. Where did this come from?

He’s not getting traded now and Boucher is definitely staying. This has really no impact on us competing next year either, as he should be back around November - December if everything goes well.
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Re: Shams: Pascal has shoulder surgery, out 5 months. 

Post#49 » by Hero » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:50 pm

What other NBA stars had shoulder surgery recently? How did it affect them?
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Post#50 » by Badonkadonk » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:51 pm

He hurt it in the Memphis game. Very bad luck, with only 5 or so games left in the season at that point.

Not sure I understand the criticism towards the team here. They tried rehab and strengthening, and then went the surgery route when it wasn't responding. You should always try to avoid surgery if you'll get the same results.

As others have pointed out, the big loss here is Pascal's opportunity to work during the summer.
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Post#51 » by bboyskinnylegs » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:51 pm

we'll be fine as long as he doesn't lose his joy for the game again. Another benefit is whoever we draft with our pick likely won't have to worry about 'fitting in' to our offensive hierarchy with Pascal ahead of them and we can get a good sense for what they are capable of early on.
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Post#52 » by Childs » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:51 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
XTC wrote:Hows next years draft? This might be a low key blessing. Develop OG further, let our draft pick flourish, tank another season, see where we go from there. Raises the possibility we might draft a forward (Barnes, Kuminga, etc), and if they show enough, we might be able to trade Pascal for help at other positions.

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Post#53 » by 720 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:52 pm

Hero wrote:What other NBA stars had shoulder surgery recently? How did it affect them?

Paul George had surgery on both shoulders. Took him a couple years to be completely 100 percent. He said so in an interview.
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Post#54 » by bon » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:53 pm

baller16 wrote:And Nurse was pushing this guy 40+ min throughout the end of the season when it was already a lost cause. Wtf was he thinking

Siakam's last 5 games min:

30
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AbC? wrote:Very disappointing news.

If this was an overuse injury then management and training staff should be held responsible for playing him when there was no need to.

He really needed a full summer of development to tighten up his game and get his mind right again. This injury really dampens my expectations of him long-term.

Siakam without a summer/training camp is going to be painful to watch.

This wasn't an overuse injury though.. It was just an unfortunate instance in one game.

And just sitting Siakam out wouldn't have been good for him either. He needs in game reps to keep working on things and establish rhythm in his game.
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Re: Shams: Pascal has shoulder surgery, out 5 months. 

Post#55 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:53 pm

Hero wrote:What other NBA stars had shoulder surgery recently? How did it affect them?

Paul George, but he had two at the same time. He's on year two, he still doesn't look the same.

It affects the shot, rebounding...any contact really.
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Post#56 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:54 pm

XTC wrote:Hows next years draft? This might be a low key blessing. Develop OG further, let our draft pick flourish, tank another season, see where we go from there. Raises the possibility we might draft a forward (Barnes, Kuminga, etc), and if they show enough, we might be able to trade Pascal for help at other positions.

tWo


If he's out 5 months, it means he'll be back by November/December.

I certainly don't mind tanking another year, but it's not like he's going to be out for the season. It'll likely just be a month, maybe 2.
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Post#57 » by bboyskinnylegs » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:55 pm

Childs wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
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Post#58 » by RapsFanInOhio » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:56 pm

He’ll be back at the start of the season so this virtually has no implication on whether or not we will tank next year. This does likely mean he won’t be traded this summer (I think that was moderately unlikely anyway) and it probably
means there’s no way Boucher is moved which is the biggest roster takeaway.

Hope he recovers well and is able to come back without any setbacks.
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Post#59 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:57 pm

Look at all the things we have in play right now. We aren't just going into year two of a casual tank.
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Post#60 » by agkagk » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:59 pm

Didn’t anyone tell this guy not to throw the circle change!!!

On a serious note; this will be two off seasons in a row where he doesn’t have the chance to practice and improve.

A big part of giving him a max deal was his work ethic and the improvements he was projected to make.

I don’t think I can’t understate how unfortunate the last two off seasons how been for him.

Just brutal.

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