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Post#161 » by ruckus » Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:35 pm

I can see Nurse closing games out with Fred, Gary, Scottie, OG and Pascal. Scottie looks like he can be special.
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Post#162 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:49 pm

Scottie looks great.
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Post#163 » by HiJiNX » Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:13 pm

This guy is going to be scary good.
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Post#164 » by scuervo1 » Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:48 pm

Just out of curiosity, where are the Jalen Suggs videos? Lol
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Post#165 » by Vorticity » Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:07 pm

scuervo1 wrote:Just out of curiosity, where are the Jalen Suggs videos? Lol

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Post#166 » by tdotrep2 » Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:12 pm

Ackshun wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
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First time in a while I've heard a guy can defend 1 through 4 and actually believed it.

we literally have OG on our team
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Post#167 » by OhCanada1091 » Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:15 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21


First time in a while I've heard a guy can defend 1 through 4 and actually believed it.

we literally have OG on our team

Siakam has also been doing it from day one. Effectively.
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Post#168 » by Jcity08 » Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:33 pm

Scotties defense and energy is already elite.
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Post#169 » by lstern » Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:45 pm

I am imagining 85+% of our minutes go to
Flynn/ FVV/ (Dragic/) TrentJr/ Barnes/ Anunoby/ Siakam/ Boucher/ Precious (/Birch).
Those guys are all 27 or younger (except the two in brackets). Can't wait!!

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Post#170 » by Ackshun » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:29 am

OhCanada1091 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
First time in a while I've heard a guy can defend 1 through 4 and actually believed it.

we literally have OG on our team

Siakam has also been doing it from day one. Effectively.


They cant guard quicker, smaller guards the way Barnes is showing.

Edit. I should correct myself. OG is a lock down defender on the perimeter. He is damn near close but I'd say he guards 2-4 very well. Barnes look like he is on a different level.

Pascal and his d is over rated. Nope.
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Post#171 » by tecumseh18 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:35 am

Ackshun wrote:
OhCanada1091 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:we literally have OG on our team

Siakam has also been doing it from day one. Effectively.


They cant guard quicker, smaller guards the way Barnes is showing.


Incorrect. In the first game if the 2019-20 season against the Pels, OG totally locked down Jrue on the game's final possession. It was a clinic, the way Scottie on Donovan is in the above clip.

And we know OG in his rookie season could cover Harden, whatever you call his position.
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Post#172 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:43 am

I see everybody's finally coming around to the Scottie bandwagon.
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Post#173 » by Ackshun » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:44 am

tecumseh18 wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
OhCanada1091 wrote:Siakam has also been doing it from day one. Effectively.


They cant guard quicker, smaller guards the way Barnes is showing.


Incorrect. In the first game if the 2019-20 season against the Pels, OG totally locked down Jrue on the game's final possession. It was a clinic, the way Scottie on Donovan is in the above clip.

And we know OG in his rookie season could cover Harden, whatever you call his position.


Yeah he definitely has shown it. But I don't consider Jrue to be an explosive guard.
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Post#174 » by OhCanada1091 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:03 am

Ackshun wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
They cant guard quicker, smaller guards the way Barnes is showing.


Incorrect. In the first game if the 2019-20 season against the Pels, OG totally locked down Jrue on the game's final possession. It was a clinic, the way Scottie on Donovan is in the above clip.

And we know OG in his rookie season could cover Harden, whatever you call his position.


Yeah he definitely has shown it. But I don't consider Jrue to be an explosive guard.

Well Im not sure what you are basing that off of but Im just gonna present new information to you because to be fair whether or not you consider him to be explosive does not actually determine whether or not he is explosive. Hes definitely got top tier athleticism.





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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#175 » by execoftheyear » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:32 am

Ackshun wrote:
OhCanada1091 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:we literally have OG on our team

Siakam has also been doing it from day one. Effectively.


They cant guard quicker, smaller guards the way Barnes is showing.

Edit. I should correct myself. OG is a lock down defender on the perimeter. He is damn near close but I'd say he guards 2-4 very well. Barnes look like he is on a different level.

Pascal and his d is over rated. Nope.


Pascal's defense is not overrated. He's a big reason why we've been elite on defense. People are just starting to hate on Pascal for no reason at this point.
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Post#176 » by aminiaturebuddha » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:42 am

execoftheyear wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
OhCanada1091 wrote:Siakam has also been doing it from day one. Effectively.


They cant guard quicker, smaller guards the way Barnes is showing.

Edit. I should correct myself. OG is a lock down defender on the perimeter. He is damn near close but I'd say he guards 2-4 very well. Barnes look like he is on a different level.

Pascal and his d is over rated. Nope.


Pascal's defense is not overrated. He's a big reason why we've been elite on defense. People are just starting to hate on Pascal for no reason at this point.


Agreed. This video does a good job of providing his impressive defensive stats, and showing video examples of that good D in action.

;t=303s

We all know that OG's defence is All-NBA caliber. If Barnes' D can be close to that level and means that Siakam and Fred are the 3rd and 4th best defenders on the team, that's a scary defensive core to build upon. All well above average defenders playing together for an excellent defensive coach in Nurse. The Raptors are going to be hell to play against. The fact that none of them have made an All-Defensive team probably suggests that they're much closer to underrated than overrated.
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Post#177 » by Ackshun » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:59 am

OhCanada1091 wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:
Incorrect. In the first game if the 2019-20 season against the Pels, OG totally locked down Jrue on the game's final possession. It was a clinic, the way Scottie on Donovan is in the above clip.

And we know OG in his rookie season could cover Harden, whatever you call his position.


Yeah he definitely has shown it. But I don't consider Jrue to be an explosive guard.

Well Im not sure what you are basing that off of but Im just gonna present new information to you because to be fair whether or not you consider him to be explosive does not actually determine whether or not he is explosive. Hes definitely got top tier athleticism.







We were discussing explosiveness or quickness off the perimeter I thought.
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Post#178 » by Ackshun » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:04 am

aminiaturebuddha wrote:
execoftheyear wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
They cant guard quicker, smaller guards the way Barnes is showing.

Edit. I should correct myself. OG is a lock down defender on the perimeter. He is damn near close but I'd say he guards 2-4 very well. Barnes look like he is on a different level.

Pascal and his d is over rated. Nope.


Pascal's defense is not overrated. He's a big reason why we've been elite on defense. People are just starting to hate on Pascal for no reason at this point.


Agreed. This video does a good job of providing his impressive defensive stats, and showing video examples of that good D in action.

;t=303s

We all know that OG's defence is All-NBA caliber. If Barnes' D can be close to that level and means that Siakam and Fred are the 3rd and 4th best defenders on the team, that's a scary defensive core to build upon. All well above average defenders playing together for an excellent defensive coach in Nurse. The Raptors are going to be hell to play against. The fact that none of them have made an All-Defensive team probably suggests that they're much closer to underrated than overrated.


OK fair enough but back to the root of this one topic here. I don't believe Pascal is suited to guard smaller, quicker guards.

YouTube videos are good and what not. Are you able to dig up some defense stats to prove me wrong? Last I checked, pretty sure they weren't good. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Re: Summer Runs and Random Player Sightings 

Post#179 » by Los_29 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:05 am

Ackshun wrote:
OhCanada1091 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:we literally have OG on our team

Siakam has also been doing it from day one. Effectively.


They cant guard quicker, smaller guards the way Barnes is showing.

Edit. I should correct myself. OG is a lock down defender on the perimeter. He is damn near close but I'd say he guards 2-4 very well. Barnes look like he is on a different level.

Pascal and his d is over rated. Nope.


Barnes has never played a game in the NBA and OG has established himself as one of the best defenders in the entire league especially on the perimeter.

And Pascal's defense is actually underrated. He's a very good defender and one of the best defenders at his position. If Barnes can develop into the player that we all think he can then our defense is going to be elite because we'll have three players that can pretty much switch onto anybody.
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Post#180 » by Federalies » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:28 am

aminiaturebuddha wrote:
execoftheyear wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
They cant guard quicker, smaller guards the way Barnes is showing.

Edit. I should correct myself. OG is a lock down defender on the perimeter. He is damn near close but I'd say he guards 2-4 very well. Barnes look like he is on a different level.

Pascal and his d is over rated. Nope.


Pascal's defense is not overrated. He's a big reason why we've been elite on defense. People are just starting to hate on Pascal for no reason at this point.


Agreed. This video does a good job of providing his impressive defensive stats, and showing video examples of that good D in action.

;t=303s

We all know that OG's defence is All-NBA caliber. If Barnes' D can be close to that level and means that Siakam and Fred are the 3rd and 4th best defenders on the team, that's a scary defensive core to build upon. All well above average defenders playing together for an excellent defensive coach in Nurse. The Raptors are going to be hell to play against. The fact that none of them have made an All-Defensive team probably suggests that they're much closer to underrated than overrated.


Nice find on the video!

Folks seem to forget that Siakam is still great on D even though he now needs to expend so much energy on O as the “#1 option”. It’s on the coaching staff to get others involved so Pascal doesn’t need to carry that burden alone. Surrounding him with FVV, GTJ, an ever improving OG and a serviceable C (Birch/Precious) should provide coach with plenty of options.

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