Steelo Green wrote: Clay Davis wrote:
God Squad wrote:I'm not going to say their going to win 50 games, But the homers are in full effect in this thread. Never in my life did I expect to see Raps fans saying GTJ stacks up to Tatum, or that Brown and Tatum (particular) aren't all star prospects. Then they bring up "But they missed the playoffs". I personally don't like their roster at all and do think they are overrated per say. But I don't think that's an indictment on Tatum or Brown as I think they are studs.
Do you think Tatum and Brown are a championship-level duo?
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A 23 year old and 24 year old who are both all-stars? Definitely. Their issue is figuring it out and getting the right pieces to surround them.
Theyâ€™ve already been to a couple conference finals.
On their own they are not enough to contend then; they need the ideal supporting cast. What are they without that supporting cast?
I think it's fair to argue that the Celtics, without the ideal supporting cast, are a treadmill team (since they aren't good enough to contend). The line between them being a treadmill team and a contending team is finding the perfect supporting cast, which is fair, but in that case you haven't really provided a good argument against the stance that top-end talent isn't necessarily enough to escape being a treadmill team.
To be honest, I don't see Lebron + AD potential, Curry + Klay potential, or PG + Kawhi potential with them. Both of them seem good but it's not the case that they're both completely transcendent. Maybe they prove me wrong but I haven't seen enough from them to make me doubt myself.