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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#81 » by agkagk » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:32 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:I agree that a franchise cannot be built around a power forward. In crunch time, it's hard for a big to get enough separation to get a high percentage shot away. Bosh leaving was a necessary step toward the Raps engaging in a true rebuild. And the positionless team Masai is putting together now is really intriguing.

agkagk wrote:but bosh was just another spoiled ignorant southern boy talking trash about playing in a foreign country in the cold and the indignity of going through customs - which really didnt help but serve as a self fulfilling prophecy.


That is the exact opposite of who Bosh is as a person, and what he actually said about the city he proclaimed he would rep til he died.

His (probably true) statement that Toronto "smelled different" was not a knock on the 6. Bosh probably meant it figuratively, and was simply acknowledging that the vibe was different than an American city. Even the black people in Toronto (mostly Jamaicans) were not kin.



Dude has undoubtably matured.

Comments he made while he was here and the ones he made after the fact don’t change the damage he did during his entitled time in Toronto.

Two face Bosh on playing in Toronto:

behind the scenes: “get me out out here”.

In public on YouTube: “I got you toronto” (while laughing)

when In reality he already had made plans over the all star break with wade and bron.


Demar on playing in Toronto: I love it here, forget l.a, I want to retire a raptor.

More bosh =‘s more kapono and Landry fields.

More demar =‘s more ibaka, Lowry and the likes.

Eff bosh 1000.
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#82 » by sule » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:51 pm

Some of you need to see an Ortho specialist for all that bending backwards you're doing defending a trashy, classless guy like Bosh.
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#83 » by OAKLEY_2 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:22 am

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billy_hoyle wrote:He disassociated himself almost immediately after leaving the Raps. That irked our fans (it irked me, who was a big fan of Bosh). If he was actually thankful for his time here, and said nice things on his way to winning easy chips with LeBron, I think he'd still have alot of fans in TO (and Canada). He kinda pulled an Antonio Davis, which makes you think these guys are just super fake a-holes.

Conversely, DeMar is the king of repping TO, and the reason I think we should retire his number, plus I loved him as a player (flawed, but still entertaining/talented).


Exactly.t.dot thing prob

It's mutual all around. Be a douche to the city and fans, same energy is coming back. Show mad love to the city, the city shows mad love back to you no matter what. At least from my perspective.


ESPN and fake sports media were creeping us back then saying he was leaving long before he did. His t.dot thing meant he might have stayed but clearly our failure was greater incentive than Lebron. Somehow in the end .B.C. could not build depth to save his life and only when they had a healthy TJ Ford were they remotely decent. The playoff failure run with Triano was damning and the team failed him in equal measure. Richard Peddie was still around making such a mess of things. His leaving as said got B.C. fired which today looks 100 times more important than it did back then. His departure was the end of the beginning. The baby missteps era of the franchise even though he got Lowry the "future of the point guard position". Or Raptor Groat.
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#84 » by TdotRap4Lyfe » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:31 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:Gee, thanks Bosh... really appreciate the love you gave Toronto.


Bosh has always been very classless! One of the biggest attention wh$res that the NBA has seen, when Miami introduced the big 3 that summer and he went off like Hulk Hogan on the stage I almost threw up!

Just from this comment, I decided to rewatch it...





I haven't cringed this much in ages. Looking back I was probably more sad going into a full rebuild than I was him leaving. I remember how annoyed I was drafting JV initially but he definitely grew on me!
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#85 » by Danny1616 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:36 pm

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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Let the Heat celebrate him, I'm done caring.


I think he is proof positive that you cannot build a contender around a Power Forward. B.C. tried to pretend he could. So we owe Bosh some gratitude for helping us clear the deck of fake B.C. retrofits culminating in landing Hedo Turkoglu. Once the miracle growth formula got shelved we inched slowly towards a championship one that might have started with landing Giannis but happened because of the savvy to hijack a trade opportunity. Bam 2019 pop the corks. Raptors fate and fortunes are built by the draft and trades never free agency.


Fair but it was an era where you had guys like Hakeem, Duncan, Robinson, Ewing, Garnett etc. all be franchise #1 option players.
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#86 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:51 pm

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OAKLEY_2 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Let the Heat celebrate him, I'm done caring.


I think he is proof positive that you cannot build a contender around a Power Forward. B.C. tried to pretend he could. So we owe Bosh some gratitude for helping us clear the deck of fake B.C. retrofits culminating in landing Hedo Turkoglu. Once the miracle growth formula got shelved we inched slowly towards a championship one that might have started with landing Giannis but happened because of the savvy to hijack a trade opportunity. Bam 2019 pop the corks. Raptors fate and fortunes are built by the draft and trades never free agency.


Fair but it was an era where you had guys like Hakeem, Duncan, Robinson, Ewing, Garnett etc. all be franchise #1 option players.

Anything post mid 2k you're transitioning into the wing/guard dominant era. Of that list only Duncan and Garnett were "franchise" players at that point, even then I'm not sure they were what we would now call first options today.

Duncan had a championship team around him already, he was a dominant as they come. However, if pop needed a basket It was normally Manu or Parker getting the call at the end of the game. Same with Garnett, when they needed a basket it went to Pierce.

It use to be inside out, now it's outside in. Bigs have to get it themselves or wait for dump offs, it's a totally different game today.

The problem for us back then, was convincing people to come play with him on "his team". He didn't give that dream up until he went to the Heat. That's when he started winning. It's the same problem they have with KAT now, nobody's coming. You can't build around that.
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#87 » by 2019nbachamps » Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:49 pm

To be fair the Raptors built garbage rosters around him. In 7 seasons we finished above .500 once with just 47 wins. We went into every single one of those seasons hoping to make the playoffs and maybe win a round. I blame Babcock and Colangelo for that mess. Imagine going into each season knowing you are an elite player, all star, Olympian, etc knowing you'll be surrounded by fringe NBA players and just overall mediocrity? At the same time his comments about Toronto after leaving were uncalled for. Anyways, it is what it is. His speech was really good though.
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#88 » by Sticks » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:39 pm

Lol bosh wifeyd the chick that every dude in the nba smashed. Dudes a simp and that's why lebron Nd wade etc .. dont respect this dude
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#89 » by NeoDragonKnight » Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:04 am

People need to forget why Bosh left as a defense, we all know why and its fine, aside from the obvious colluding that happened, the issue a lot of people have is that Bosh has been going out of his way to forget or snub Toronto ever since...and yet that is actually ok, we will forget and snub you back, BUT don't friggen come back to town when the team is on the verge of winning a championship and proclaim he was one of us and basking in the lime light, and then disappear again and don't say a word to about the team you were just basking in the lime light just 2 years prior in your HoF speech. It is so two-face and insulting to us fans. Just stay away for good if you truly felt like that, so fake. Part of it is the networks for bringing him in, bring in Carter or Damon, Alvin, Calderon, JYD, Mopete, any friggen former Raptor BUT Bosh, such a stupid decision.
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#90 » by gigi » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:06 am

NeoDragonKnight wrote:People need to forget why Bosh left as a defense, we all know why and its fine, aside from the obvious colluding that happened, the issue a lot of people have is that Bosh has been going out of his way to forget or snub Toronto ever since...and yet that is actually ok, we will forget and snub you back, BUT don't friggen come back to town when the team is on the verge of winning a championship and proclaim he was one of us and basking in the lime light, and then disappear again and don't say a word to about the team you were just basking in the lime light just 2 years prior in your HoF speech. It is so two-face and insulting to us fans. Just stay away for good if you truly felt like that, so fake. Part of it is the networks for bringing him in, bring in Carter or Damon, Alvin, Calderon, JYD, Mopete, any friggen former Raptor BUT Bosh, such a stupid decision.


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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#91 » by Double Bubble » Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:12 pm

Smokee wrote:Let’s face it. As far as former Raptors “stars” are concerned, he’s been filed under “who cares” by the general fan base. He was nothing more than the girl you hook up with after a serious relationship ends and before the next one starts. Just an insignificant blip.

Bosh was the proverbial **** and chuck of the NBA. Who actually cares about this dude? At one point it was us, now even Masai clowns on his third banana a**

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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#92 » by plainballing » Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:32 am

Chris who?
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Post#93 » by Troubadour » Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:58 am

Most forgettable star we've had on this team, sadly. Glad he found a home in Miami.
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#94 » by Westside Gunn » Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:53 am

Damn, Bosh is so natural with public speaking. Whether its broadcasting or something like this, he's really good at it. Im surprised he hasn't looked at it as a post retirement career. Fantastic hof speech. And 5 kids, holy damn. And yeah Im kinda pissed about giving Toronto little to no mention in his HOF.

I can't really forget the high I had in the Chris Bosh era of the Raptors so it really holds a special place in my memories. I was young, really dedicated with watching the Raptors,Leafs, and Jays, and any team winning brought out the ultimate high. Plus being a kid, being in HS, getting your G2 and driving around the city with raptor flags on, going to the games when they were AFFORDABLE, it was fun. That 06-07 season was magical. 1st round exit, but all that winning that got the team there, since the 2002 playoffs was a beauty to watch, and Bosh was a huge part of it. Even the loss to the Magic was disappointing, but making it to the playoffs 2 years in a row was still a beauty as a Toronto sports fan.

Now as a grown ass man in 2021 and looking back at 2010, I totally understand his decision to put yourself in the best situation to succeed. But as a fan, it also impacted the quality of the product with every star now wanting to form super teams. I also as a dual citizen, totally understand why America is the end all be all for the average joes to celebrities, specially for people on the come up. No one would choose Canada if they had the choice, specially now.
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#95 » by Basketball_Jones » Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:57 pm

I’ll have to give this a watch today. Kind of telling that I didn’t care to, despite being a Bosh fan. Would have been nice if he mentioned his time as a Raptor a bit more, but I don’t really care. Maybe he didn’t enjoy it as much as he said. Maybe he knows Raptor fans are still bitter. But again…I don’t think we should care.
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Post#96 » by BBallInSight » Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:22 pm

Danny1616 wrote:
NeoDragonKnight wrote:
NinjaBro wrote:
Man, I loved that 2006 team. It was so much fun. I've been a Raptors fan since day 1 but only casually and grew as Carter came along. Prior to that I was a HUGE Jays and Leafs fan. I remember every year scrambling to get opening day tickets for Jays games, it was a national holiday to me. But it wasn't until that 2006 season that every Raptors game was can't miss, even more than the Vince Carter years. Unlike the Carter years, everyone on the 2006 roster was so likeable.


Agreed, that was a super cinderella story, and had one of the highest BBiq teams and top 1-2 ball movement teams we ever had. If that team got their #$% together from the start, it would have been a 50 win season. And Garbo going down was a disaster as Joey Graham (though played passable in the end of the regular season) had one of the worst playoff performances from a Raptor I have ever seen, to the point his mom and brother called him out, I dont blame him, he was a rookie but damn...should have just played Peterson at that point. Once we started to lose those players 1 by 1 without good replacement and selfish players, because of BC's mismanagement, the team quickly went down the crapper.


Losing Garbo late in the season was a huge loss. I think we win the Nets series with him.

Also don't forget TJ Ford had an excellent season until he suffered an injury before the playoffs. Then of course his career basically ended in the beginning of the 2008 season. Ford in my opinion, if he could have stayed healthy, was developing into an all-star PG. Him and Bosh had great chemistry as well.

Ford, Bosh, Parker, Garbo, Bargnani, Calderon etc. obviously wasn't a championship contender, but could have been a 50 win team if everyone stayed healthy.


I went to game 7. The refs took out our best-performing players - call after call, until it was done. Called Amir on several phantom calls. Absolutely brutal. Same as it always was.
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#97 » by Slade3 » Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:16 pm

Parataxis wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:Gee, thanks Bosh... really appreciate the love you gave Toronto.


It must be scary for him, being buried alive.

I have to assume that that's what happened, since he did promise that he'd 'Rep T-dot 'til they bury me'. What a tragic way to go.


It was DeMar that said that...
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Post#98 » by EFF3KT » Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:27 pm

Toronto provided him the platform to obtain about all the accolades he had accomplished in his "Hall of Fame" career except for championships.
To essentially exclude the Raptors in his speech is one of the biggest slaps in the face to this dedicated fan base and franchise.

At least he won't be the Raptor to retire the number 4.
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Post#99 » by Slade3 » Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:43 pm

Slade3 wrote:
Parataxis wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:Gee, thanks Bosh... really appreciate the love you gave Toronto.


It must be scary for him, being buried alive.

I have to assume that that's what happened, since he did promise that he'd 'Rep T-dot 'til they bury me'. What a tragic way to go.


It was DeMar that said that...


EDIT: NM, I forgot he said it too.
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Re: Chris Bosh Hall of Fame Speech 

Post#100 » by Slade3 » Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:49 pm

Sticks wrote:Lol bosh wifeyd the chick that every dude in the nba smashed. Dudes a simp and that's why lebron Nd wade etc .. dont respect this dude


Not cool for attacking him personally. Rag him all you want for his NBA career but don't bring his wife into it.

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