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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#341 » by Indeed » Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:40 pm

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Hair Canada wrote:Banton is certainly exceeding my expectation, having followed his progress for the last 6 years. Always believed he has NBA potential but didn't expect it to translate so quickly after having some difficulties late in the season at Nebraska. Still, it's a pleasure to see how he's been able to figure things out.

I went back and looked at what I wrote about him in 2018, when he just entered college (Western Kentucky, where he hardly got any playing time) as an anonymous young Canadian:

"Banton is one of the more underrated Canadians coming out of high school this year. Reminds me a bit of SGA, who was also underrated coming into college last year. Like Shai, somewhat of a late-bloomer, who has really made some significant strides during his final high school year. Like Shai, not the strongest or most athletic guard you will find, though he can certainly finish above the rim in traffic. Has somewhat of an underwhelming frame, sporting narrow hips and thin shoulders. But, again like Shai, he has long strides, plays with composure, deceptively changes speeds, and able to regularly get to the basket despite his lack of explosive first step. When he’s fully engaged and in attack mode, Banton can be very dominant on both ends of the floor, with great size for a combo guard. He’s a good ball-handler, who can definitely lead the offense at least some of the time. Showed good scoring abilities last year from all three levels. His 3-point shot still needs refinement and greater persistency. But he already has floaters and mid-range stop-and-pops in his arsenal, and can also finish nicely at the rim with either hand."


that is pretty damn impressive sir


That is one amazingly detailed report. I often refer to Shai as Sega Genesis due to the fact that after learning from CP3 he became unleashed(initially learned from Sam Cassell his rookie year). I checked his college stats and they were insane:

37 games: 14.4pts/4.1rbs/5.1asts/1.6stls on shooting splits of 48.5/40.4/81.7 from the field.

It's absolutely insane that he fell as low as he did. Knicks fans will be punching air for taking Kevin Knox over SGA. A good indicator of whether or not a player's shot will translate from college to the NBA are 3 factors:

-Field goal %. If it's in the high 40's at minimum there's a strong chance he'll get there.
-3pt shot. If it's in the high 30's-low 40's even better
-FT shot. Anything in the low 80's is a good indicator of it translating to the pros. OG had the 1st 2 points checked down, but he was a career 52% FT shooter at Indiana who's shot needed a lot of work. Thankfully the Raptors coaching staff has made strides with him in becoming a reliable FT shooter.

SGA checked all the boxes and is a true 3 threat level scorer and learning from the point god was crucial.

With Banton I thought he'd be a Shaun Livingston prototype as a long guard/wing who could become a reliable secondary ball handler at minimum who's length could be used to defend the smaller guards. If he could've done what Shaun did with the Warriors minus the career altering injury I'd be thrilled especially as he was a mid 2nd round pick. His college stats were 40.8/23.7/63.1 from the field indicating he'd need a lot of work. The fact that he looks composed and aggressive for the most part is good to see.

If he were to be at least half as good as SGA man that'd be amazing.


I am not sure the comparison of Banton being Livingston outside of both being bigger.
Livingston is good with his footwork, changing direction (crossover) and work in the post.
Banton isn't good at changing direction. Banton is more about changing speed (hesitation move).

For him to be Livingston, it will be a big ask to improve his footwork.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#342 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:55 pm

Post-injury Livingston (the only version worth comparing as that was most of his career) was only good at scoring with his back to the basket. Highly overrated player, but smart and excellent defensively. He couldn't switch onto 5s like Banton can (as a f'n rookie). He didn't play with any speed at all. I don't think Banton will develop like Livingston, because why would they bother? That kind of player is irrelevant today, and not much help to the Raptors. He's being urged to get to the rim, a la Giannis, Ben Simmons. Obviously he won't be those guys, but that's the way they're developing him.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#343 » by Kevin Willis » Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:28 pm

By the end of the year Johnson will be better (ohhhh snap).
Ska needs to make a comeback.
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Post#344 » by God Squad » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:59 am

Kevin Willis wrote:By the end of the year Johnson will be better (ohhhh snap).

Don't see it at all.

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Post#345 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:33 pm

Season Update:

18 GMS, 13.2 MIN, 5.2 PTS, 2.2 REB, 1.4 AST, 0.5 STL, 0.3 BLK, .500 FG, .385 3PT, .750 FT, .577 TS%, 18.1 USG
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#346 » by Hero_Panda » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:38 pm

Haven't been watching that many games lately.
How is his playmaking? Improving as the season goes along?
Shot mechanics?
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Post#347 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:41 pm

Bantons shot is looking really good. It's scary how good this guy can be with some seasoning!
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Post#348 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:53 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Bantons shot is looking really good. It's scary how good this guy can be with some seasoning!



He's showing that he has the potential to be more than just a back-up guard. He has starter potential.
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Post#349 » by tecumseh18 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:49 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:Bantons shot is looking really good. It's scary how good this guy can be with some seasoning!



He's showing that he has the potential to be more than just a back-up guard. He has starter potential.


Just to pick one aspect, Banton's free throw form has transformed from looking like a clown show in summer league to being a serious weapon. He looks so confident shooting it (except when he loses concentration). He's improving every week, at a faster rate than Scottie.

I'm starting to look forward to Dalano's minutes. I think he is a perfect partner for Fred. Gary should come off the bench with Flynn.
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Post#350 » by gp2015 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:54 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:It's scary how good this guy can be with some seasoning!


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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#351 » by Indeed » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:09 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
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Tor_Raps wrote:Bantons shot is looking really good. It's scary how good this guy can be with some seasoning!



He's showing that he has the potential to be more than just a back-up guard. He has starter potential.


Just to pick one aspect, Banton's free throw form has transformed from looking like a clown show in summer league to being a serious weapon. He looks so confident shooting it (except when he loses concentration). He's improving every week, at a faster rate than Scottie.

I'm starting to look forward to Dalano's minutes. I think he is a perfect partner for Fred. Gary should come off the bench with Flynn.


Too early for Banton to start games at the moment, but his potential is there.
Banton will need to improve his assist/turnover ratio, taking offensive fouls (eg. charges) wouldn't help. But I believe his shooting will come really quick.

I think he should take the 6th man role next year, but for now keep working on his stuff.
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Post#352 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:47 pm

The shooting splits have been very encouraging. Still small samples from 3 and the line, but his progression from the start of the year to now has been pretty dramatic.

He plays a little out of control at times, especially when he's at full speed, but that will improve with experience.

A guy his size, who can be a primary ballhandler, who can defend multiple positions who can potentially develop the ability hit opens 3s - that's a very valuable player. There aren't many comparables for him.
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Re: Dalano Banton Discussion 

Post#353 » by WuTang_OG » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:21 pm

monster game for banton last night for 905, 38min, 27pts, 13reb, 6asts, 12-29fg, 3-7 fg3

they beat long island on a game winner by bonga


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Post#354 » by aminiaturebuddha » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:32 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:monster game for banton last night for 905, 38min, 27pts, 13reb, 6asts, 12-29fg, 3-7 fg3

they beat long island on a game winner by bonga




Great to see. He hasn't been very good the last few outings with the big club, so it's great that he isn't losing confidence and is still finding ways to dominate the game and work on things in the development league. I'm guessing that's where he'll spend most of the rest of his minutes this year, so hopefully he can bump up that efficiency as well.

Unfortunately the same can't be said for Flynn, who looks to have had a subpar outing in that same game with the 905.

By the way, weird video where it showed his highlights in reverse order of how they happened. Don't often see that.
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Post#355 » by KawhiSoSerious » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:05 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:monster game for banton last night for 905, 38min, 27pts, 13reb, 6asts, 12-29fg, 3-7 fg3

they beat long island on a game winner by bonga




Watching these highlights was like watching Memento
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Post#356 » by ParadoxJ » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:06 pm

Needs a shot, even his drives are soft, cant take the contact. Surprised he doesnt yell aye going in to get bailed out.
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Post#357 » by bluerap23 » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:26 pm

Was just looking at the game and how efficient Bonga was. He has been very good for 905 in the limited action he's seen. Then I was thinking it is too bad he is so much older because 905 competition is less legit for him than Banton. Then I saw Bonga is actually 1 day younger than Banton!
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Post#358 » by kirkwood » Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:00 pm

Banton needs to work on his shot of course but he also needs to learn to play the game at different speeds, and have the game slow down a bit for him.
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Post#359 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:10 pm

Yeah, bonga is surprisingly young, probably cuz he came into the league young. That banton MONSTER dleague game I would've guessed was a loss or a close win at best based on all the possessions he was using.

Positive comment, if he can get off all those shots and get assists and make them fairly efficiently he'll be a star in the gleague. That might be a big if though.
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Post#360 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:22 pm

Banton in his 5 g league games:

32.4 MIN, 26.0 PPG, 7.2 REB; 5.0 AST, 1.2 STL, 48.2 FG (22.0 ATT), 29.0 3PT (6.2 ATT), 75.0 FT (2.4 ATT)

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