Official Scottie Barnes Thread

[Johnny Bball]

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Explains why he's averaging 1 assist lol.

It's kind of weird to track that and expect assists... Fred is the PG and Scottie is starting the play off with a dribble HO most of those. That's all that is.

[HumbleRen]

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Explains why he's averaging 1 assist lol.

It's kind of weird to track that and expect assists... Fred is the PG and Scottie is starting the play off with a dribble HO most of those. That's all that is.

Possibly but FVV shooting 21% from the 3 isn't helping his assists lol.

[Vampirate]

Without context, just by the numbers you'd think one of Barnes main strengths is scoring and main weaknesses is passing.

His scouting report was someone who can pass but was very raw so he'd have trouble scoring.

Kinda odd lol.

[MadDogSHWA]

I'm glad Team Treadmill finally gets it.

You still don't get that a lot of were saying if the team sucks half way through the year it's fine to tank. Many of us were just saying you don't go into the season with the goal of tanking straight away.

How difficult is this for you to understand? It's not rocket science.

The debate didn't even heat up until the halfway point of the season...

Team treadmill was all-in on making the play-in game until the end.

After it was spelled out how making the play-in impacts lottery balls I can't recall a single poster that was pro-play-in.

Can you name a poster who was for the play-in?

[links135]

Without context, just by the numbers you'd think one of Barnes main strengths is scoring and main weaknesses is passing.

His scouting report was someone who can pass but was very raw so he'd have trouble scoring.

Kinda odd lol.

What's happening is teams have learned he's a good passer and forcing him to score, which he's taken the challenge.

If he becomes a good shooter from 3 it then puts the pressure on teams to stop him from scoring, which then opens up passing lanes.

He got that 3 against Tatum because Tatum was sagging off of him, trying to stop the drive and passing lanes.

At the same time he's shooting 56% from the field and his midrange has been really good.

[HumbleRen]

Without context, just by the numbers you'd think one of Barnes main strengths is scoring and main weaknesses is passing.

His scouting report was someone who can pass but was very raw so he'd have trouble scoring.

Kinda odd lol.

Yep, it makes sense in game though. In the pre season Barnes seemed to be the main ball handler in transition but during the regular season, FVV and Precious have been leading the transitions which hurts his potential assists.

[Madhouse]

It's a bit weird right now but 4 games is too small of a sample size.

I think we see more 10/5/4/2/1 games going forward than what we are seeing right now.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Ngl, Suggs looking like Kendall Marshall with better defense through the preseason and first 4 games makes me feel more and more great about Barnes at 4

[DG88]

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-oct-27-2021-edition

1. Chris Duarte

2. Scottie Barnes, Toronto Raptors
Season stats: 16.8 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.5 apg

The No. 4 pick in the 2020 Draft was something of a surprise – Chicago took Florida State’s Patrick Williams, who never started a college game – and the Raptors matched that by picking Barnes, another Seminole, a little higher than many expected. Definitely not a reach, to this point, with the 6-foot-9 forward logging time as a point-big. Former ROY Jason Kidd went on the record after Barne’s third game predicting he’ll be “a star in this league.”

3. Evan Mobley
4. Jalen Green
5. Franz Wagner
6. Davion Mitchell
7. Josh Giddey
8. Jalen Suggs
9. Alperen Sengun
10. Jeremiah Robinson-Earl

[OakleyDokely]

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-oct-27-2021-edition

1. Chris Duarte

2. Scottie Barnes, Toronto Raptors
Season stats: 16.8 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.5 apg

The No. 4 pick in the 2020 Draft was something of a surprise – Chicago took Florida State’s Patrick Williams, who never started a college game – and the Raptors matched that by picking Barnes, another Seminole, a little higher than many expected. Definitely not a reach, to this point, with the 6-foot-9 forward logging time as a point-big. Former ROY Jason Kidd went on the record after Barne’s third game predicting he’ll be “a star in this league.”

3. Evan Mobley
4. Jalen Green
5. Franz Wagner
6. Davion Mitchell
7. Josh Giddey
8. Jalen Suggs
9. Alperen Sengun
10. Jeremiah Robinson-Earl

Duarte is older than OG.

He's 4 years older than Barnes and most of the rooks below him.

[Madhouse]

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-oct-27-2021-edition

1. Chris Duarte

2. Scottie Barnes, Toronto Raptors
Season stats: 16.8 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.5 apg

The No. 4 pick in the 2020 Draft was something of a surprise – Chicago took Florida State’s Patrick Williams, who never started a college game – and the Raptors matched that by picking Barnes, another Seminole, a little higher than many expected. Definitely not a reach, to this point, with the 6-foot-9 forward logging time as a point-big. Former ROY Jason Kidd went on the record after Barne’s third game predicting he’ll be “a star in this league.”

3. Evan Mobley
4. Jalen Green
5. Franz Wagner
6. Davion Mitchell
7. Josh Giddey
8. Jalen Suggs
9. Alperen Sengun
10. Jeremiah Robinson-Earl

Duarte is older than OG.

He's 4 years older than Barnes and most of the rooks below him.

He is the Brogdon of this class.

[OakleyDokely]

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-oct-27-2021-edition

Duarte is older than OG.

He's 4 years older than Barnes and most of the rooks below him.

He is the Brogdon of this class.

I think Duarte is being overrated. He's basically just hitting 3s at an unsustainable rate (.448%). He has a mediocre .547 TS% (needs 17 shots to get 19 pts) and he doesn't defend very well. There's no way he's more impactful than two way guys like Mobley and Barnes.

For me so far it's

1a Mobley
2b Barnes

And then a sizable gap.

[niQ]

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-oct-27-2021-edition

1. Chris Duarte

2. Scottie Barnes, Toronto Raptors
Season stats: 16.8 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.5 apg

The No. 4 pick in the 2020 Draft was something of a surprise – Chicago took Florida State’s Patrick Williams, who never started a college game – and the Raptors matched that by picking Barnes, another Seminole, a little higher than many expected. Definitely not a reach, to this point, with the 6-foot-9 forward logging time as a point-big. Former ROY Jason Kidd went on the record after Barne’s third game predicting he’ll be “a star in this league.”

3. Evan Mobley
4. Jalen Green
5. Franz Wagner
6. Davion Mitchell
7. Josh Giddey
8. Jalen Suggs
9. Alperen Sengun
10. Jeremiah Robinson-Earl

After the first 3 games Barnes was something like 18ppg and 10rpg. Not bad for someone they said was a 0-level scorer lol

[Vampirate]

Duarte is older than OG.

He's 4 years older than Barnes and most of the rooks below him.

He is the Brogdon of this class.

I think Duarte is being overrated. He's basically just hitting 3s at an unsustainable rate (.448%). He has a mediocre .547 TS% (needs 17 shots to get 19 pts) and he doesn't defend very well. There's no way he's more impactful than two way guys like Mobley and Barnes.

For me so far it's

1a Mobley
2b Barnes

And then a sizable gap.

In terms of winning ROTY Duarte may win it because of PPG, the guy might be an NBA sniper at 40% from 3 (he's shooting 100% from the FT line so it's probably not a fluke). That being said I really don't care if he wins it.

The award is about is just above the slam dunk contest in terms of accolades of relevance.

He's 24 years old and is probably close to entering. I don't think he's going to grow much more than to be a deadly shooter. This is probably his ceiling tbh.

[Danny1616]

Without context, just by the numbers you'd think one of Barnes main strengths is scoring and main weaknesses is passing.

His scouting report was someone who can pass but was very raw so he'd have trouble scoring.

Kinda odd lol.

That's why a 4 game sample size is meaningless. We've seen plenty of times players have a great stretch or rough stretch of a few games. Bargnani had 11 incredible games and was average the rest of the season. We saw Derozan one time have a crazy season start averaging like 32 for his first 10 games before he came down to earth.

Look at Norman Powell last year: Last year his first 3 games he was 2-11, 0-5 and 2-7. Powell proceeded to have a great year and the best of his career averaging 20ppg on 49% fg and 44% 3fg with us last year.

[WuTang_OG]

If Raps stayed at 7, I think they take Giddey. I was wrong o nthat one. He's got game.

But Barnes is better than him at everything, which makes sense that OKC wanted him

[T-d0t]

I think Mobley should be #1 on the rookie ladder but I guess its PPG over everything for ROY

[BBallInSight]

He needs to post up more. He'll score in bunches that way.

[Jcity08]

Barnes will get ROY hopefully.

[kirkwood]

Scottie has a bad habit of disappearing or floating, other then the super high energy Boston game

Looks like he didn’t even want to play in that first quarter