Official Scottie Barnes Thread

[Ackshun]

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It wasn’t too long ago when Realgm was crying for more shots and touches for a rookie Bargnani, with TJ Ford and Bosh taking most of the shots.

The Raptors ended up winning the division that year with a record of 47-35.

[canada_dry]

It wasn’t too long ago when Realgm was crying for more shots and touches for a rookie Bargnani, with TJ Ford and Bosh taking most of the shots.

The Raptors ended up winning the division that year with a record of 47-35.

Realgm will never change lol

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[nowayguy]

It wasn’t too long ago when Realgm was crying for more shots and touches for a rookie Bargnani, with TJ Ford and Bosh taking most of the shots.

The Raptors ended up winning the division that year with a record of 47-35.

Fun fact: Bargnani would have ended up with a HOF career if he had taken 2 more shots during his rookie season.

[Potential]

When we drafted Scottie Barnes, a lot of Toronto Raptor fans had a lot of negative things to say about the pick. We've seen it time and time again Masai Ujiri is a genius especially when it comes to scouting and drafting players. After a lot of work, I have finally found my reaction from draft night.

Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:34 pm

Scottie Barnes is the next Scottie Pippen you heard it here first

**** Pippen. Scottie is going to be better offensively.

I definitely thought he had high bust potential and was extremely down on the pick. Shows how little we know. Dude looked like he was shooting a basketball for the first time in college. Now he's arguably our best shot creator and finisher.

I won't be doing any amateur scouting again as long as Masai and Co. are running the team. It leads one down a dark path.

He absolutely will not be a better player than Scottie pippen and even that in itself is quite okay

Yes he will

[Chandan]

It wasn’t too long ago when Realgm was crying for more shots and touches for a rookie Bargnani, with TJ Ford and Bosh taking most of the shots.

The Raptors ended up winning the division that year with a record of 47-35.

Fun fact: Bargnani would have ended up with a HOF career if he had taken 2 more shots during his rookie season.

And barnes just had his 13 games. Only it happened at the very beginning of his career.

[JN]

I know many people are disturbed / tad upset about Scottie's recent usage.

But I don't think its a terrible thing to slowly ease him into things and let Scottie gain confidence in what he does well. I don't think its great to put him into high usage situations for a long 80 game season.

Obviously as the season progresses (and if we go into tank mode) we should look to expand his time with the ball. But easing him in and not overwhelming, or having him make too many mistakes is not a bad strategy for the first half of the season.

[HumbleRen]

A lot of learning lessons for Scottie tonight.

Positives

- Turned it on in the third quarter and brought us back into the game.
- Made fantastic reads

Negatives

- Cannot guard PG's or SG's like I keep saying.
- Needs to be more athletic when he doesn't have a running start. (can be remedied by having tighter handles so he can get to his spots easier)
- Obvious mistakes at the end of the game

[seanbig]

Scottie has that Kobe rookie moment where he dribbled the ball off his leg in the clutch (ie turnover) and shot an air ball three (ie his stuff by McCollum-embarrassing)

[TheBunk]

Scottie can absolutely guard sgs. Let's not get ridiculous.

His defensive game last night was terrific when you consider how tough this defensive system is for a rookie.

[MoneyBall]

Scottie can absolutely guard sgs. Let's not get ridiculous.

His defensive game last night was terrific when you consider how tough this defensive system is for a rookie.

Defensive system or do you mean defensive assignment? Because as far as I can tell switching on screens is easier and simpler than constantly rotating.

[Danny1616]

Rough finish for Barnes but I thought he was great the first 3.5 quarters.

Good learning game for him.

[Psubs]

Rough finish for Barnes but I thought he was great the first 3.5 quarters.

Good learning game for him.

I think cutting his minutes so he can perform better for the whole rest of the season is best. Keep him fresh.

PG FVV - Banton/Flynn
SG Trent - Svi - Dragic
SF OG - Barnes - Yuta
PF Siakam - Barnes
C Birch - Barnes - Achiuwa

Like last night, Barnes vs Zeller might be a better matchup for Scottie. Birch on Nurkic better too as a starter.

[TheBunk]

Scottie can absolutely guard sgs. Let's not get ridiculous.

His defensive game last night was terrific when you consider how tough this defensive system is for a rookie.

Defensive system or do you mean defensive assignment? Because as far as I can tell switching on screens is easier and simpler than constantly rotating.

I mean more so his variety of defensive assignments. He's guarding Dame and he's also guarding centres down low. It's a miracle the dude isn't fouling out every other game considering that he's being asked to do everything on the nba court as a rookie.

Also think his rotations have improved quite a bit and his boxing out is, as always, terrific.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Rough finish for Barnes but I thought he was great the first 3.5 quarters.

Good learning game for him.

What does he have to learn from this one? He dropped the ball 2X, which happens to everyone and is a statistical blip. Getting blocked by CJ? Who cares? It was a great defensive play. I thought this was his best game. He was super-involved in the offense, especially working with/off Siakam. He took on that hostile crowd and Dame's lame frontrunning taunting and led the charge for multiple comebacks. He was screaming up the court off misses. Guys are going to give up blow-bys to Lillard and McCollum. They're excellent ballhandlers that can score from everywhere. We sucked at things like DRebounds, PnR coverage, overhelping. The whole team was guilty.

[Danny1616]

Rough finish for Barnes but I thought he was great the first 3.5 quarters.

Good learning game for him.

What does he have to learn from this one? He dropped the ball 2X, which happens to everyone and is a statistical blip. Getting blocked by CJ? Who cares? It was a great defensive play. I thought this was his best game. He was super-involved in the offense, especially working with/off Siakam. He took on that hostile crowd and Dame's lame frontrunning taunting and led the charge for multiple comebacks. He was screaming up the court off misses. Guys are going to give up blow-bys to Lillard and McCollum. They're excellent ballhandlers that can score from everywhere. We sucked at things like DRebounds, PnR coverage, overhelping. The whole team was guilty.

I said he was great for the first 3.5 quarters.

He had a couple sloppy turnovers stepping out of bounds, and could have finished stronger a couple times, but overall he's been fantastic.

I never said the loss was on him either.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Rough finish for Barnes but I thought he was great the first 3.5 quarters.

Good learning game for him.

What does he have to learn from this one? He dropped the ball 2X, which happens to everyone and is a statistical blip. Getting blocked by CJ? Who cares? It was a great defensive play. I thought this was his best game. He was super-involved in the offense, especially working with/off Siakam. He took on that hostile crowd and Dame's lame frontrunning taunting and led the charge for multiple comebacks. He was screaming up the court off misses. Guys are going to give up blow-bys to Lillard and McCollum. They're excellent ballhandlers that can score from everywhere. We sucked at things like DRebounds, PnR coverage, overhelping. The whole team was guilty.

I said he was great for the first 3.5 quarters.

He had a couple sloppy turnovers stepping out of bounds, and could have finished stronger a couple times, but overall he's been fantastic.

I never said the loss was on him either.

I think they called it a travel when the ball deflected off the defender back to him. The ref was in terrible position to make the call. I don't think these are learning moments. Bad stuff does happen when you're pressing to come back in games. To call it sloppy isn't right. There's no "I'll catch the ball next time." You could easily see Fred or Pascal, or any vet make these same mistakes and it wouldn't bat an eye.

The game was lost on the defensive end, and some of that was Scottie. But, the end of the game was just a desperation run that didn't all line-up.

One thing realgm loves to focus on are these minute moments within a game to harp on weaknesses. Like, people will still bring up DeMar dribbling the ball off his foot at the end of a game, or Pascal blowing some endings. When I see people say Scottie blew this one, or that this is a rookie moment, I don't buy it. He was awesome, and then had some badly timed turnovers.

[KrazyP]

Rough finish for Barnes but I thought he was great the first 3.5 quarters.

Good learning game for him.

What does he have to learn from this one? He dropped the ball 2X, which happens to everyone and is a statistical blip. Getting blocked by CJ? Who cares? It was a great defensive play. I thought this was his best game. He was super-involved in the offense, especially working with/off Siakam. He took on that hostile crowd and Dame's lame frontrunning taunting and led the charge for multiple comebacks. He was screaming up the court off misses. Guys are going to give up blow-bys to Lillard and McCollum. They're excellent ballhandlers that can score from everywhere. We sucked at things like DRebounds, PnR coverage, overhelping. The whole team was guilty.

In the 4th, after Lillard was talking smack to Barnes, Scottie followed it up with a couple great defensive posssessions......on one possession he forced him into missing a contested step back 3 and next possession, his length forced Lillard to miss a wild layup. Scottie has IT.

That said, the current role he has is absolutely perfect for his long term development. I actually dont want to see him forced into a high usage role this early in his career.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Rough finish for Barnes but I thought he was great the first 3.5 quarters.

Good learning game for him.

What does he have to learn from this one? He dropped the ball 2X, which happens to everyone and is a statistical blip. Getting blocked by CJ? Who cares? It was a great defensive play. I thought this was his best game. He was super-involved in the offense, especially working with/off Siakam. He took on that hostile crowd and Dame's lame frontrunning taunting and led the charge for multiple comebacks. He was screaming up the court off misses. Guys are going to give up blow-bys to Lillard and McCollum. They're excellent ballhandlers that can score from everywhere. We sucked at things like DRebounds, PnR coverage, overhelping. The whole team was guilty.

In the 4th, after Lillard was talking smack to Barnes, Scottie followed it up with a couple great defensive posssessions......on one possession he forced him into missing a contested step back 3 and next possession, his length forced Lillard to miss a wild layup. Scottie has IT.

That said, the current role he has is absolutely perfect for his long term development. I actually dont want to see him forced into a high usage role this early in his career.

He was flat-out incredible. Did he have two and1s? What's this "not going up with force" nonsense? CJ blocked him as he was going up to dunk, and it was a great block.

imo Scottie took exactly one bad shot. He hit a transition pull up jumper and then on the next play had Norm on him and settled for another. Nurse benched him for that. They're developing his attack mode instincts. And yeah, he took a lot of **** from Lillard and kept throwing counters.

[Hero_Panda]

The notion that Barnes should come off the bench has got to stop.