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[ATLTimekeeper]

Your empty Danforth pub to the person living in pain because their surgery is postponed is the trade-off here.

Two words (I mentioned them in Point 1): Vaccine. Mandates.

Granted, Ford wouldn't implement those in million years, which only increases their attractiveness to me. So we have to deal with the (stupid) scenario in which they are (stupidly) not implemented - except for hockey practice, gyms and sit-down restaurants.

I get it, the lack of manpower owing to Omicron is an issue, whether in schools or in hospitals. Sure, wait two weeks. But what do we realistically expect to be different two weeks from now? (BTW: this is the exact question I was asking two weeks ago.)

Elongates the curve, gives more time for people to get boosters, kids to get their Pfizer shot (time for them to kick in, etc.). We can see that 4 weeks off has started to flatten the curve, two more weeks is two more weeks of that.

[MadDogSHWA]

Question for all you vaccine mandate supporters. If you went in to the hospital for non COVID surgery who would you rather operate on you? A non vaxxed confirmed negative dr. Or a vaccinated confirmed positive dr. I just find it funny how someone who was seen as a hero 2 years ago is now demonized.


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I would prefer the confirmed positive because I don't want surgery from a Dr who is anti-science.

[akakalakin]

Question for all you vaccine mandate supporters. If you went in to the hospital for non COVID surgery who would you rather operate on you? A non vaxxed confirmed negative dr. Or a vaccinated confirmed positive dr. I just find it funny how someone who was seen as a hero 2 years ago is now demonized.


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I would prefer the confirmed positive because I don't want surgery from a Dr who is anti-science.

World health just joined the Euro's saying booster would compromise immune system, and Pfizer CEO said Omicron vaccine not available until March or for us regular people much later?

So which doctor exactly is correct now?

[Quattro]

Question for all you vaccine mandate supporters. If you went in to the hospital for non COVID surgery who would you rather operate on you? A non vaxxed confirmed negative dr. Or a vaccinated confirmed positive dr. I just find it funny how someone who was seen as a hero 2 years ago is now demonized.


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That’s a trick question. There is a rigorous education and training requirement in place to become a doctor that weeds out stupid, unintelligent people who go to Facebook or some other internet cesspool for advice on vaccine safety. Therefore, there should be no such thing as an “unvaxxed doctor”.

[Quattro]

Question for all you vaccine mandate supporters. If you went in to the hospital for non COVID surgery who would you rather operate on you? A non vaxxed confirmed negative dr. Or a vaccinated confirmed positive dr. I just find it funny how someone who was seen as a hero 2 years ago is now demonized.


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I would prefer the confirmed positive because I don't want surgery from a Dr who is anti-science.

World health just joined the Euro's saying booster would compromise immune system, and Pfizer CEO said Omicron vaccine not available until March or for us regular people much later?

So which doctor exactly is correct now?

They’re talking about frequent boosters (every 4 months), they said it “may” weaken people suggesting more study is needed (which makes sense since nobody is on a 4 month booster timeline right now), and their recommendation was annual boosters timed with the onset of flu season like we have for the flu.

[akakalakin]

I would prefer the confirmed positive because I don't want surgery from a Dr who is anti-science.

World health just joined the Euro's saying booster would compromise immune system, and Pfizer CEO said Omicron vaccine not available until March or for us regular people much later?

So which doctor exactly is correct now?

They’re talking about frequent boosters (every 4 months), they said it “may” weaken people suggesting more study is needed (which makes sense since nobody is on a 4 month booster timeline right now), and their recommendation was annual boosters timed with the onset of flu season like we have for the flu.

Dr Moore said eighty days in this afternoon's presser.

[Madhouse]

FYI

My Scotiabank contact told me few days ago by Jan 26 restaurants and fans back in at 50% capacity. Likely gyms too - thank goodness.

I'm not too sure yet. I see them extending it.

[youngRAPZ]

Question for all you vaccine mandate supporters. If you went in to the hospital for non COVID surgery who would you rather operate on you? A non vaxxed confirmed negative dr. Or a vaccinated confirmed positive dr. I just find it funny how someone who was seen as a hero 2 years ago is now demonized.


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That’s a trick question. There is a rigorous education and training requirement in place to become a doctor that weeds out stupid, unintelligent people who go to Facebook or some other internet cesspool for advice on vaccine safety. Therefore, there should be no such thing as an “unvaxxed doctor”.

Did they not fire a ton of health professionals from hospitals because they were not vaccinated?


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[SuppaSlick]

Question for all you vaccine mandate supporters. If you went in to the hospital for non COVID surgery who would you rather operate on you? A non vaxxed confirmed negative dr. Or a vaccinated confirmed positive dr. I just find it funny how someone who was seen as a hero 2 years ago is now demonized.


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That’s a trick question. There is a rigorous education and training requirement in place to become a doctor that weeds out stupid, unintelligent people who go to Facebook or some other internet cesspool for advice on vaccine safety. Therefore, there should be no such thing as an “unvaxxed doctor”.

Did they not fire a ton of health professionals from hospitals because they were not vaccinated?


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The bunch your referencing are health care professionals

Health care professionals do not equal doctors

Doctors require university and Med school. Health workers require a college course at minimum

[youngRAPZ]

That’s a trick question. There is a rigorous education and training requirement in place to become a doctor that weeds out stupid, unintelligent people who go to Facebook or some other internet cesspool for advice on vaccine safety. Therefore, there should be no such thing as an “unvaxxed doctor”.

Did they not fire a ton of health professionals from hospitals because they were not vaccinated?


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The bunch your referencing are health care professionals

Health care professionals do not equal doctors

Doctors require university and Med school. Health workers require a college course at minimum

So you are telling me there has not been 1 doctor or nurse that is unvaccinated against COVID-19. You people are so dense it’s not even funny.

Anyways continue being in the same boat as the people you blame. The FACT is, both vaccinated and unvaccinated can catch, spread, be hospitalized and die from COVID. And judging by the fact you vaccinated can’t even gather without spreading it amongst yourselves like wildfire hence no raptors games and no indoor dining for you as well .


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[Tor_Raps]

FYI

My Scotiabank contact told me few days ago by Jan 26 restaurants and fans back in at 50% capacity. Likely gyms too - thank goodness.

I'm not too sure yet. I see them extending it.

Ya it sounded like they weren't sure on what will happen on January 26th. I think they'll look at the trend over the next week or so before making a decision.

Personally, open the F up lol.

[WuTang_OG]

FYI

My Scotiabank contact told me few days ago by Jan 26 restaurants and fans back in at 50% capacity. Likely gyms too - thank goodness.

I'm not too sure yet. I see them extending it.

Ya it sounded like they weren't sure on what will happen on January 26th. I think they'll look at the trend over the next week or so before making a decision.

Personally, open the F up lol.

Things can change but for my contact to say they opening they must know. Mlse first to know these things from province.

[Tor_Raps]

I'm not too sure yet. I see them extending it.

Ya it sounded like they weren't sure on what will happen on January 26th. I think they'll look at the trend over the next week or so before making a decision.

Personally, open the F up lol.

Things can change but for my contact to say they opening they must know. Mlse first to know these things from province.

Hope you're right man. I'm doing crap all right now. Only so much TV a man can watch lol.

[Los_29]

Did they not fire a ton of health professionals from hospitals because they were not vaccinated?


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The bunch your referencing are health care professionals

Health care professionals do not equal doctors

Doctors require university and Med school. Health workers require a college course at minimum

So you are telling me there has not been 1 doctor or nurse that is unvaccinated against COVID-19. You people are so dense it’s not even funny.

Anyways continue being in the same boat as the people you blame. The FACT is, both vaccinated and unvaccinated can catch, spread, be hospitalized and die from COVID. And judging by the fact you vaccinated can’t even gather without spreading it amongst yourselves like wildfire hence no raptors games and no indoor dining for you as well .


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Well 99% of doctors are fully vaccinated. Sure there are some morons that slip through the cracks or have medical exemptions but make no mistake about it, the vast majority of doctors are fully vaccinated. The “doctors” that you get your information from online are also fully vaccinated.

So if anyone is dense it’s the people that choose to listen to hacks on Joe Rogan’s podcast and Infowars as opposed to medical experts.

The fact you still talk about how vaccinated people can still get covid but ignore the fact that the unvaccinated are way more likely to get hospitalized and die from covid is shocking. It’s like you are blatantly choosing to ignore facts.

[youngRAPZ]

The bunch your referencing are health care professionals

Health care professionals do not equal doctors

Doctors require university and Med school. Health workers require a college course at minimum

So you are telling me there has not been 1 doctor or nurse that is unvaccinated against COVID-19. You people are so dense it’s not even funny.

Anyways continue being in the same boat as the people you blame. The FACT is, both vaccinated and unvaccinated can catch, spread, be hospitalized and die from COVID. And judging by the fact you vaccinated can’t even gather without spreading it amongst yourselves like wildfire hence no raptors games and no indoor dining for you as well .


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Well 99% of doctors are fully vaccinated. Sure there are some morons that slip through the cracks or have medical exemptions but make no mistake about it, the vast majority of doctors are fully vaccinated. The “doctors” that you get your information from online are also fully vaccinated.

So if anyone is dense it’s the people that choose to listen to hacks on Joe Rogan’s podcast and Infowars as opposed to medical experts.

The fact you still talk about how vaccinated people can still get covid but ignore the fact that the unvaccinated are way more likely to get hospitalized and die from covid is shocking. It’s like you are blatantly choosing to ignore facts.

Hey man like I’ve said numerous amounts of times, I do not tell people they shouldn’t take the vaccine. My point is why are there mandates when vaccinated can spread the virus and so can unvaccinated? If your only argument is unvaccinated are over filling icu then there’s no point in me continuing this conversation.


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[Los_29]

So you are telling me there has not been 1 doctor or nurse that is unvaccinated against COVID-19. You people are so dense it’s not even funny.

Anyways continue being in the same boat as the people you blame. The FACT is, both vaccinated and unvaccinated can catch, spread, be hospitalized and die from COVID. And judging by the fact you vaccinated can’t even gather without spreading it amongst yourselves like wildfire hence no raptors games and no indoor dining for you as well .


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Well 99% of doctors are fully vaccinated. Sure there are some morons that slip through the cracks or have medical exemptions but make no mistake about it, the vast majority of doctors are fully vaccinated. The “doctors” that you get your information from online are also fully vaccinated.

So if anyone is dense it’s the people that choose to listen to hacks on Joe Rogan’s podcast and Infowars as opposed to medical experts.

The fact you still talk about how vaccinated people can still get covid but ignore the fact that the unvaccinated are way more likely to get hospitalized and die from covid is shocking. It’s like you are blatantly choosing to ignore facts.

Hey man like I’ve said numerous amounts of times, I do not tell people they shouldn’t take the vaccine. My point is why are there mandates when vaccinated can spread the virus and so can unvaccinated? If your only argument is unvaccinated are over filling icu then there’s no point in me continuing this conversation.


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If you’ve done any research then you wouldn’t be asking me that question.

[youngRAPZ]

Well 99% of doctors are fully vaccinated. Sure there are some morons that slip through the cracks or have medical exemptions but make no mistake about it, the vast majority of doctors are fully vaccinated. The “doctors” that you get your information from online are also fully vaccinated.

So if anyone is dense it’s the people that choose to listen to hacks on Joe Rogan’s podcast and Infowars as opposed to medical experts.

The fact you still talk about how vaccinated people can still get covid but ignore the fact that the unvaccinated are way more likely to get hospitalized and die from covid is shocking. It’s like you are blatantly choosing to ignore facts.

Hey man like I’ve said numerous amounts of times, I do not tell people they shouldn’t take the vaccine. My point is why are there mandates when vaccinated can spread the virus and so can unvaccinated? If your only argument is unvaccinated are over filling icu then there’s no point in me continuing this conversation.


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If you’ve done any research then you wouldn’t be asking me that question.

So since I haven’t done any research, enlighten me please sir.


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[refshateRaps]

Always so black & white vaccinated vs. unvaccinated?

This debate should always be drilled down to age, obesity & other underlying serious comorbidities? These factors truly matter when talking about forced injections on the general public.

Its' bad enough many we're lying about this drug preventing spread & its quick waning properties. In the absence of no long term data these attribute were always known was from the start about this tech. but somehow became 'misinformation'... We really gotta stop this black & white conversation now that the data is overwhelming in the public realm

[Fairview4Life]

Always so black & white vaccinated vs. unvaccinated?

This debate should always be drilled down to age, obesity & other underlying serious comorbidities? This is what matter more in this discussion.

Its' bad enough many we're lying about this drug preventing spread & its quick waning properties. All known from the start but somehow became 'misinformation' but we gotta stop this dumb conversation now that the data is overwhelming in the public realm

Jeez

Every age group with or without comorbidities has seen a significantly smaller proportion of their vaccinated population being hospitalized and dying.

It’s free, very easy to get, takes very little time out of your day to do, and makes you safer as well as not **** up our medical system.

The reason why omicron is spreading is because it spreads asymptomatically a lot better than delta or alpha, which the vaccines actually did a really good job at minimizing the spread of. Not quite as good with omicron.

[refshateRaps]

Always so black & white vaccinated vs. unvaccinated?

This debate should always be drilled down to age, obesity & other underlying serious comorbidities? This is what matter more in this discussion.

Its' bad enough many we're lying about this drug preventing spread & its quick waning properties. All known from the start but somehow became 'misinformation' but we gotta stop this dumb conversation now that the data is overwhelming in the public realm

Jeez

Every age group with or without comorbidities has seen a significantly smaller proportion of their vaccinated population being hospitalized and dying.

It’s free, very easy to get, takes very little time out of your day to do, and make you safer as well as not **** up our medical system.

Age absolutely matters. Obesity matters. As does Comorbidity. We can remove most serious cases in these categories. It is certainly not healthy unvaccinated people clogging up the ICUs.

Vax was suppose to last 6 months according to manufacturers... Now showing only last 2-3 months & not up to date with latest variants. Any data on long term accumulation? Cause that might be a little important here at this stage.

Sadly the ICU capacity & staffing shortages are as big of an issue as the unvaccinated (& increasingly vaccinated) unhealthy people using these resources

As for this 'free' never ending magic potion that those taking are deemed not safe enough to even go the the gym, I personally never put drugs in your body without a good reason. Moreso when I can read what they are capable of initially & understand my risk but like many was forced to choose to keep a job & feed a family or take it. Now been in and out of the hospital for months on end...

Really wish I could've sacrificed an injury to a major organ in my body to atleast prevent spread in others like some tried to peddle. But no. That misinformation that was never flagged, and clearly didn't hold up well.... So now it's on to try to pretend healthy people are clogging up the ICUs & mandate more on people not at any serious risk.

If you want it, take it. No good words for those pushing this black & white convo and pushing mandates upon healthy people at this stage.