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[Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:25 am
by dgr81
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952421-latest-nba-trade-intel-how-will-dame-lillard-surgery-impact-ben-simmons-marketMyles Turner appears the likeliest Indiana player to be traded before the deadline, with a list of suitors that includes Dallas, Minnesota, New York, Sacramento, Charlotte and Portland. Toronto was also mentioned by several league personnel as a team to keep an eye on for Turner's services. The Pacers' asking price is said to include multiple first-round picks.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:27 am
by Son Goku 25
Booshay + Dragic + Flynn? Not sure if salaries match
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:47 am
by mowcrowbar
Son Goku 25 wrote:Booshay + Dragic + Flynn? Not sure if salaries match
Raptors will never do this because it is way too much in favour of the Pacers. Boucher is already better than Turner.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:25 pm
by LBJKB24MJ23
mowcrowbar wrote:Son Goku 25 wrote:Booshay + Dragic + Flynn? Not sure if salaries match
Raptors will never do this because it is way too much in favour of the Pacers.
Boucher is already better than Turner.
Had a good laugh. Thanks for making my day.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:49 pm
by Brinbe
Please, please, please. I'd definitely add him for the right deal. Especially if he's obtainable without touching the core 4 (5 if you include GTJ)
He I think he would fill that Gasol spot perfectly. Adding a rim protecting stretch five that can be a presence against other big Cs can only be a good thing. And he's entering his prime now but is still pretty young.
That he provides two-way value and a little of everything without needing huge usage numbers is exactly what they look for in players and his elite skill (shot blocking/rim protection) strengthens us where we're maybe not so strong as compared to steals/deflections. Plus his ability to stretch the floor can further unlock this offense, especially playing off Fred, Pascal, Scottie, OG.
I can see why they'd be interested.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:59 pm
by alienchild
Fischer is complete garbage.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:09 pm
by bboyskinnylegs
if Turner is unhappy with his role on the Pacers, it's hard to see him being happy with the role he'd get here. And multiple firsts would be out of the question.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:11 pm
by Raps in 4
alienchild wrote:Fischer is complete garbage.
Didn't this dude confirm we were drafting Barnes days before the draft?
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:13 pm
by libertyYYZ
dgr81 wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952421-latest-nba-trade-intel-how-will-dame-lillard-surgery-impact-ben-simmons-market
Myles Turner appears the likeliest Indiana player to be traded before the deadline, with a list of suitors that includes Dallas, Minnesota, New York, Sacramento, Charlotte and Portland. Toronto was also mentioned by several league personnel as a team to keep an eye on for Turner's services. The Pacers' asking price is said to include multiple first-round picks.
Given Masai's track record getting Serge and then Marc in the championship run-up, this idea might have some legs. It would be a bump in team quality but not getting us to ECF or Finals.
Turner's age fits with the current group. Turner is a floor spacer and reasonably mobile, but not great defending on the perimeter. He would be more in the Serge role than the Gasol role. Barnes is already starting to fill the Gasol role as point-F/C.
Indiana would probably want a FRP since we don't have a whole lot of non-core assets. They would be angling for either Birch or Achiuwa rather than Boucher to fill the backup role to Sabonis. If we throw in Dragic to match Turner's contract, then Indiana need to give up other assets. Brissett knows our system and has value to us.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:17 pm
by PhilBlackson
Said it before, as long as there's some form of handshake agreement that Myles will sign an EXTENSION (he only has a year remaining) then I'm for it, IF not and we're just "hopeful", I'm out on the idea.
I would also say this is based on us being able to at minimum maintain our current standing over the next month, as it will be a tough one that really defines what this team is or isn't. If we stay above water and more neck to neck with CHA and start climbing towards CLE, then sure I'd pull the trigger because, for one that draft pick would be in the range where basically if you can find an all star caliber player you just got lucky and the team is actually bit better than some of us expected. But on the other hand, we struggle and dip back down below WAS and BOS, that to me would show we're not as good as we'd like to be, in which case I'd think it's better to just ride it out. See if we can't have some luck again to move up in the draft or I'd just feel fairly confident we'd be the ones to catch that "Booker, Mitchell, Thompson etc" type of player that falls towards the end of the lottery (my early guess is that is AJ Griffin who I don't see falling out of the lottery).
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:23 pm
by tecumseh18
Raps in 4 wrote:alienchild wrote:Fischer is complete garbage.
Didn't this dude confirm we were drafting Barnes days before the draft?
Yes, Fischer is the stalking horse for Pritchard (Pacers' POBO). Fischer did the hatchet job in Bleacher Report last season to support Nate Bjorkgren's firing after his first year, and was rewarded by Pritchard with some scoops, including the Raps' interest in Scottie.
So right now, Fischer's job is to talk up Turner's value. It's certainly not two FRPs (unless Flynn + 2022 FRP = 2 FRPs.)
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:29 pm
by mowcrowbar
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:mowcrowbar wrote:Son Goku 25 wrote:Booshay + Dragic + Flynn? Not sure if salaries match
Raptors will never do this because it is way too much in favour of the Pacers.
Boucher is already better than Turner.
Had a good laugh. Thanks for making my day.
Wym? Boucher is a 2 way superstar. and his slim frame makes him the optimal player for long stretches in the playoffs, where he equally dominates.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:31 pm
by alienchild
Raps in 4 wrote:alienchild wrote:Fischer is complete garbage.
Didn't this dude confirm we were drafting Barnes days before the draft?
He didn't confirm it. He speculated that it might happen in a way that he could deny so he didn't look a fool. He also speculated that Pascal would be traded to POR for C. J. McCollum.
I'm amazed that so many on this board are sucked in by this three dollar bill.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:33 pm
by PhilBlackson
mowcrowbar wrote:LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:mowcrowbar wrote:
Raptors will never do this because it is way too much in favour of the Pacers. Boucher is already better than Turner.
Had a good laugh. Thanks for making my day.
Wym? Boucher is a 2 way superstar. and his slim frame makes him the optimal player for long stretches in the playoffs, where he equally dominates.
1/10 troll job.
They work better when they're even remotely believable.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:44 pm
by kj_
Multiple first round picks for Turner.
Not. A. Chance.
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Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:51 pm
by blastttOFF
Indy wants Scottie Barnes included in the deal.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:59 pm
by Zeno
I think if you can get a 1st and a young player with some promise from another team for GTJ you consider it given his player option in the 3rd year and that you can't extend him before that.
So I would do GTJ for THT, Nunn and a Lakers 2027
And then trade Our 1st, Lakers pick, Flynn, Dragic for Turner
I know that THT has a similar contract structure to GTJ but he has more growth potential as a player/asset than what GTJ does in my opinion. Obviously I could be horribly wrong but that is why you need a 1st thrown in.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:14 pm
by dkb965
Zeno wrote:I think if you can get a 1st and a young player with some promise from another team for GTJ you consider it given his player option in the 3rd year and that you can't extend him before that.
So I would do GTJ for THT, Nunn and a Lakers 2027
And then trade Our 1st, Lakers pick, Flynn, Dragic for Turner
I know that THT has a similar contract structure to GTJ but he has more growth potential as a player/asset than what GTJ does in my opinion. Obviously I could be horribly wrong but that is why you need a 1st thrown in.
The Pacers could get a better return for Turner then what you posted. Obviously a GTJ/1st/Flynn/Dragic for Turner/THT would be great, but it is not realistic.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:18 pm
by NeoDragonKnight
I said this before, I have wanted Turner for a long time, he has the same skill set as Ibaka, and Ideal stretch big. BUT, the time to have gotten him was 1 or 2 years ago when he was injured or had long stretches of retched numbers. I feel his price went up this year. It is my opinion his issue with Indiana is Sabonis...Turner's stats and role were trending up but absolutely flat lined and even went down a little once Sabonis came in and took all the rebounds and touches (not disputing he should or shouldn't be, bc Sabonis is good). Anywho, if we can get him reasonably, Id do it as big men are kind of in short supply, but if not, I guess theres always the draft.
Re: [Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:21 pm
by RaptorReloaded
Zeno wrote:I think if you can get a 1st and a young player with some promise from another team for GTJ you consider it given his player option in the 3rd year and that you can't extend him before that.
So I would do GTJ for THT, Nunn and a Lakers 2027
And then trade Our 1st, Lakers pick, Flynn, Dragic for Turner
I know that THT has a similar contract structure to GTJ but he has more growth potential as a player/asset than what GTJ does in my opinion. Obviously I could be horribly wrong but that is why you need a 1st thrown in.
There was a YouTube video that was posted not to long ago proposing a three team trade where lakers get Trent Jr. and we get Turner..
Smokes a swirling maybe.
Is Gary playing tonight?
Fred
Scottie
OG
Pascal
Myles
is HUGE!