LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:pingpongrac wrote:LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
wasn't Doncic hurt? hence the inflated FGA per game?
and the TS% of Brunson is .552 (RS is .583) vs FVV who is at .486, (RS .552)
Brunson is very comparable to FVV, people will probably be raggin on Brunson's defense if he played on the Raptors. lol
Luka was out the first few games. Since then, Brunson hasn't been deferring at all as noted by the 20 PPG on 17 FGA with 4 AST in 34 MPG in the last 6 games. Brunson going 0/3 in Q4 of G3 against the Jazz is a big reason why they lost that game and his combined 9/28 efforts in G1+G2 certainly doesn't scream "deferring".
I don't know why Brunson is very comparable to FVV other than the fact that they weren't high picks and they're a similar size. Brunson is a better inside/midrange scorer while FVV is a significantly better defender and outside scorer that is also a better playmaker. Their individual games really couldn't be any more different.
as playmakers, they are pretty similar. i.e. FVV has a Assist to Pass % of 10.7%. Brunson is at 9.6%, Chris Paul has 19% for comparison...their potential assists per pass is on par at 20.9% and 20.3%, respectively. Brunson also has a higher Ast/TOV ratio of 3.04 while FVV is at 2.55. Remember that FVV also has a higher USG% as well and Brunson plays with Doncic.
Their 3 point shooting is similar; Brunson at 37.3%, FVV at 37.7%, sure FVV has more volume on 3s but Brunson has a better offensive repertoire i.e. he shoots it better from everywhere than FVV and similar to FVV at 3s + similar pass to assist ratio.
Defense is probably the only thing FVV outshines Brunson at - definitely more fundamentally aware defensively. as someone said, Brunson is just better offensively, FVV is better defensively. so i guess you're right to some extent but offensively they are similar, with Brunson being younger and quicker than FVV.
Those numbers might say they are similar playmakers, but it still proves that FVV was a bit better. You also have to take into account that all of FVV's numbers, including his touches/passing numbers because he wasn't a drive threat, took a noticeable hit post-ASG due to the knee injury; his AST dropped from 7.0 to 5.7 and his potential AST dropped from 13.8 to 10.4 while his drives dropped from 14.0 to 9.5 despite playing similar minutes with a similar USG%. Brunson has a higher AST/TO ratio largely because he is playing with Luka and he isn't tasked with being a playmaker like FVV was for most of the season. Recall that FVV averaged 4.5 AST in 27 MPG with a 3.3 AST/TO ratio for his career prior to this season.
Regarding the shooting numbers, Brunson averaged ~3 3FGA whereas FVV averaged ~4 3FGM at a slightly higher percentage; FVV almost made as many threes (242) as Brunson attempted (252) this season despite playing 14 less games. Their midrange numbers are very similar on identical volume (1.4 FGM at 47% for Brunson vs 1.3 FGM at 45% for FVV), but Brunson is much better in the paint/finishing at the rim and that's about it. It is downright absurd to make the claim that they are comparable shooters because their percentages are similar without acknowledging FVV's jumpshot volume is more than 2x that of Brunson and FVV also takes significantly more difficult shots; 68% of Brunson's 3FGA are of the C&S variety vs 47% for FVV for example.
Brunson scored 46% of his points in the paint, 18% in the midrange, 22% behind the arc and 14% at the FT line whereas FVV scored 18% of his points in the paint, 13% in the midrange, 55% behind the arc and 14% at the FT line. Brunson does most of his damage inside while FVV does most of his damage outside. Brunson was the 3rd/4th option for most of the season while FVV was the 1st/2nd option and a primary ball-handler/playmaker for most of the season. They are just not similar offensively. It is pointless to compare their offensive efficiency when their roles and styles of play are polar opposites.
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