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[Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy

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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1861 » by DelAbbot » Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:50 am

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We have Koloko. Don't need Ayton no more

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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1864 » by WaltFrazier » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:17 pm

Van_Trump wrote:https://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2022/06/26/og-anunoby-a-trade-without-a-cause/

That article lays it out so clearly why it was never a good idea, especially for a #7
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1865 » by tecumseh18 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:54 pm

Read on Twitter


As with Kyle to the Knicks, it was a question of whether the other side was willing to pay the exorbitant price Masai was asking.

But the linked article makes the point at the end:

If this is all noise, and Anunoby doesn’t want out, and the Raptors have no intention of trading him, what generated the near-unanimous consensus from sources I talked to that this was on the table?

At this point, with the Raptors having not blinked through the draft and having the No. 7 pick on the table, I’m skeptical of a deal. Ujiri will ask a high price for Anunoby just as he did from Portland, and while Anunoby is ideal for what most teams are looking for (a long, offensively talented wing who defends at a high level), the premium exceeds a lot of what’s available.


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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1866 » by Syd-TK3 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:56 pm

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Read on Twitter


As with Kyle to the Knicks, it was a question of whether the other side was willing to pay the exorbitant price Masai was asking.

That's literally a fair deal
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1867 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:59 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
Read on Twitter


As with Kyle to the Knicks, it was a question of whether the other side was willing to pay the exorbitant price Masai was asking.


No, this trade doesn't make sense as it's proposed here as an either/or. But New York agreed to meet Masai's "exorbitant" price of Iman Shumpert and a future first, but Dolan reneged. Holy crap that would have been a disaster for the Raptors. I doubt the Raptors ever listed a price for OG and just kept taking pitches.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1868 » by tecumseh18 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:10 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:No, this trade doesn't make sense as it's proposed here as an either/or. But New York agreed to meet Masai's "exorbitant" price of Iman Shumpert and a future first, but Dolan reneged. Holy crap that would have been a disaster for the Raptors. I doubt the Raptors ever listed a price for OG and just kept taking pitches.


The Knicks organization as a single corporate entity ultimately rejected the Kyle deal. I get annoyed when people say Masai "got lucky" when it pulled out.

Kyle's reputation at the time was as a surly, coach-killing, non-winning journeyman. And he was on an expiring contract. So yes, for Masai to demand Shump and first for that was "exorbitant". And Dolan made an understandable call, especially after the Bargnani deal blew up in their faces.

Picks can be useful (although Knicks apparently only use them to shed bad salaries). Masai turned the 2016 Knicks pick into Kawhi. Maybe this Knicks pick would have been another Siakam.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1869 » by Spida888 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:12 pm

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tecumseh18 wrote:
Read on Twitter


As with Kyle to the Knicks, it was a question of whether the other side was willing to pay the exorbitant price Masai was asking.

That's literally a fair deal
Portland isn't serious about catering to Dame

If this is true, I wonder if a #7 + hart/little + keon johnson (former FRP) would have been acceptable from both ends. Getting an additional FRP though is nicer than Keon because we would get to pick our own prospect.

If POR didn't owe their future FRP to CHI, they would consider it I'm guessing. Making the CHI owed pick unprotected just to be able to trade a future FRP to us is too risky for POR.
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Post#1870 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:28 pm

This is all noise and posturing after the fact by Fischer and/or Portland. From Masai's post season presser on to the fact OG was at OVO on draft day, it's clear he was never on the table. It was all manufactured by Fake Fischer and other teams
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Post#1871 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:14 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:No, this trade doesn't make sense as it's proposed here as an either/or. But New York agreed to meet Masai's "exorbitant" price of Iman Shumpert and a future first, but Dolan reneged. Holy crap that would have been a disaster for the Raptors. I doubt the Raptors ever listed a price for OG and just kept taking pitches.


The Knicks organization as a single corporate entity ultimately rejected the Kyle deal. I get annoyed when people say Masai "got lucky" when it pulled out.

Kyle's reputation at the time was as a surly, coach-killing, non-winning journeyman. And he was on an expiring contract. So yes, for Masai to demand Shump and first for that was "exorbitant". And Dolan made an understandable call, especially after the Bargnani deal blew up in their faces.

Picks can be useful (although Knicks apparently only use them to shed bad salaries). Masai turned the 2016 Knicks pick into Kawhi. Maybe this Knicks pick would have been another Siakam.


The year before Kyle was traded for a guaranteed lotto pick. Asking for a worse one and a journeyman role player in return isn't demanding a haul.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1872 » by WuTang_OG » Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:31 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Masai to Portland during all this
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1873 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:33 pm

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Post#1874 » by DelAbbot » Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:56 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:Lock this up


Lock this baby up!
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1875 » by WuTang_OG » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:17 pm

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WaltFrazier wrote:Lock this up


Lock this baby up!

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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1876 » by kalel123 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:36 pm

I'm offended Portland, of all teams, was the team that was rumored to be after OG, one of our core pieces, and been trying to rattle the cage. Bunch of amateurs. Not even a contender but a team that is beneath us at the moment and should've blown it up for proper rebuild long time ago.

Whoever still thinks this thing has/had legs should quit following this team for everyone's sake.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1877 » by libertyYYZ » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:53 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:This is all noise and posturing after the fact by Fischer and/or Portland. From Masai's post season presser on to the fact OG was at OVO on draft day, it's clear he was never on the table. It was all manufactured by Fake Fischer and other teams

Fischer is burning bridges.

Masai's crew must be a bit annoyed at the blatant leaking of trade positioning details too.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1878 » by WuTang_OG » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:31 pm

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WaltFrazier wrote:This is all noise and posturing after the fact by Fischer and/or Portland. From Masai's post season presser on to the fact OG was at OVO on draft day, it's clear he was never on the table. It was all manufactured by Fake Fischer and other teams

Fischer is burning bridges.

Masai's crew must be a bit annoyed at the blatant leaking of trade positioning details too.

Cronin is a rookie too , doesn't know wtf he doing
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Post#1879 » by 720 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:35 pm

So this came down to Portland not wanting to give us an additional pick?
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#1880 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:37 pm

720 wrote:So this came down to Portland not wanting to give us an additional pick?

No that's the story Fischer and/Portland are putting out. Masai was never trading OG
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