Oddsmaker places Gobert to Toronto at 50-50

[BoyzNTheHood]

Finals "Centers"

Draft Combine Measurements (asterisk = unofficial). Height listed without shoes.

A.Horford (30.2mpg in finals): 6'8" height, 7'0.75" wingspan, 8'11" reach, 246lbs
R.Williams (25,2mpg in finals): 6'8" height, 7'4" wingspan*, ???? reach, 255lbs
K.Looney (21.6mpg in finals): 6'8" height, 7'3.5" wingspan, 9'2" reach, 222lbs

Williams' reach is probably around 9'4" because he has around a 7'5.5" wingspan

[LastNameEver]

Jesus Christ Ainge is one sob, his cache pretty much carried over immediately

[S.W.A.N]

I can see Atlanta putting a package around Collins. It'll be an early test of Landry Fields.

its going to be hawks imo; pressure from ownership, GM already saying he wants to shake it up. collins not happy.

report from this morning, take it with a grain of salt.

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Utah using a Toronto rumor to get teams to bid higher

Hawks and Portland the two teams I'd bet. Both need shakeups and a real defensive bigman to pair with their offensive superstars who don't defend

[God Squad]

Do Not Want. But with Dallas out of the running it had to increase either our chances or Atlanta.

[wegotthabeet]

If it was OG, Boucher, Flynn, I'd do it.

If it was Trent, Boucher, Flynn, + 2x first round picks (2024 & 2026) I'd do it.


Vanvleet
Anunoby
Barnes
Siakam
Gobert - Precious

Depth would be an issue, but that's an 50+ win team top 4 seed easy. Best defensive team in the NBA in my opinion. Precious can also easily sub into this lineup dependent on match up without skipping a beat.

Add guard depth with the MLE & BAE.
Re-sign Thad.
Banton, Champagnie, 33rd pick round out the rotation.

If the price is right I'm interested. His contract is horrible, but that lineup is intriguing not going to lie.

[OAKLEY_2]

If it was OG, Boucher, Flynn, I'd do it.

If it was Trent, Boucher, Flynn, + 2x first round picks (2024 & 2026) I'd do it.


Vanvleet
Anunoby
Barnes
Siakam
Gobert - Precious

Depth would be an issue, but that's an 50+ win team top 4 seed easy. Best defensive team in the NBA in my opinion. Precious can also easily sub into this lineup dependent on match up without skipping a beat.

Add guard depth with the MLE & BAE.
Re-sign Thad.
Banton, Champagnie, 33rd pick round out the rotation.

If the price is right I'm interested. His contract is horrible, but that lineup is intriguing not going to lie.

Would we take on the Rudy contract? Sounds like an all in move. Not sure we do that at this point especially with Precious improving and two other UFA's to sign.

[wegotthabeet]

If it was OG, Boucher, Flynn, I'd do it.

If it was Trent, Boucher, Flynn, + 2x first round picks (2024 & 2026) I'd do it.


Vanvleet
Anunoby
Barnes
Siakam
Gobert - Precious

Depth would be an issue, but that's an 50+ win team top 4 seed easy. Best defensive team in the NBA in my opinion. Precious can also easily sub into this lineup dependent on match up without skipping a beat.

Add guard depth with the MLE & BAE.
Re-sign Thad.
Banton, Champagnie, 33rd pick round out the rotation.

If the price is right I'm interested. His contract is horrible, but that lineup is intriguing not going to lie.

Would we take on the Rudy contract? Sounds like an all in move. Not sure we do that at this point especially with Precious improving and two other UFA's to sign.

Yeah it's pretty much an all-in move until Scottie's rookie deal expires. Gives them a two or three year window to make deep playoff runs, then the team can reset around Scottie when Gobert expires. A healthy version of that team is a match up nightmare versus any team in the NBA. They'd need to hit on that MLE with a scoring guard off the bench, but you only really need an 8 man rotation come playoff time.

Vanvleet - Anunoby - Barnes - Siakam - Gobert - Achiuwa - MLE - Young

I'm curious to see what kind of impact Gobert would have with elite wing defenders.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Hypothetical, but would any realgmer put any significant action if I were to open a book or take action offering Gobert to Toronto odds @ 2:1 or even 3:!?

[ATLTimekeeper]

Sounds like Atlanta will take Gobert as that's the most reasonable package that Utah can get. Ayton was rumoured to Atlanta, but bodog didn't even consider them a threat to go there, so that was likely just garbage.

I didn't take Jake Fischer's rumours seriously, but Scotto is actually legitimately connected and he suggested OG would be available for a "top 10" pick and Portland is in those bodog odds. Most likely OG is a Raptor, but if there's a dude the Raptors love at Portland's pick I could see that coming together on draft day.

[tecumseh18]

Sounds like Atlanta will take Gobert as that's the most reasonable package that Utah can get. Ayton was rumoured to Atlanta, but bodog didn't even consider them a threat to go there, so that was likely just garbage.

I didn't take Jake Fischer's rumours seriously, but Scotto is actually legitimately connected and he suggested OG would be available for a "top 10" pick and Portland is in those bodog odds. Most likely OG is a Raptor, but if there's a dude the Raptors love at Portland's pick I could see that coming together on draft day.

I think it's more likely (not to say VERY likely) that OG goes to Portland, #7 plus stuff (Josh Hart?) goes to the Kings, and #4 (Ivey?) plus Richaun Holmes comes back to the Raptors.

It's not likely enough for me to try to add contracts to make it work in the trade machine, but I can envision a deal like that happening.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Sounds like Atlanta will take Gobert as that's the most reasonable package that Utah can get. Ayton was rumoured to Atlanta, but bodog didn't even consider them a threat to go there, so that was likely just garbage.

I didn't take Jake Fischer's rumours seriously, but Scotto is actually legitimately connected and he suggested OG would be available for a "top 10" pick and Portland is in those bodog odds. Most likely OG is a Raptor, but if there's a dude the Raptors love at Portland's pick I could see that coming together on draft day.

I think it's more likely (not to say VERY likely) that OG goes to Portland, #7 plus stuff (Josh Hart?) goes to the Kings, and #4 (Ivey?) plus Richaun Holmes comes back to the Raptors.

It's not likely enough for me to try to add contracts to make it work in the trade machine, but I can envision a deal like that happening.

I'm mostly basing it off bodog's odds that were posted a few pages back:

Toronto Raptors-800
Portland Trail Blazers+750
Utah Jazz+1000
Minnesota Timberwolves+1200
Phoenix Suns+1200
Orlando Magic+5000

Sacramento not even reaching out.

[Dalek]

Sounds like Atlanta will take Gobert as that's the most reasonable package that Utah can get. Ayton was rumoured to Atlanta, but bodog didn't even consider them a threat to go there, so that was likely just garbage.

I didn't take Jake Fischer's rumours seriously, but Scotto is actually legitimately connected and he suggested OG would be available for a "top 10" pick and Portland is in those bodog odds. Most likely OG is a Raptor, but if there's a dude the Raptors love at Portland's pick I could see that coming together on draft day.

I think it's more likely (not to say VERY likely) that OG goes to Portland, #7 plus stuff (Josh Hart?) goes to the Kings, and #4 (Ivey?) plus Richaun Holmes comes back to the Raptors.

It's not likely enough for me to try to add contracts to make it work in the trade machine, but I can envision a deal like that happening.

I think if we could end up with Holmgren you make the trade into the top ten offering OG. Beyond that I would hesitate if I were Toronto. Holzman said it best that it would be tough to draft a player better than OG. The guy is built like a tank, can shoot, defend five positions, and is becoming a better ball handler each year.

I would only part with OG for a C with franchise potential. Chet would be one and Gobert the other. Ivey is a really dynamic player, but if he came out last draft he would have been a fringe late lotto late first prospect. People see Ja Morant, but I am not quite there on the comp.

[gerrit4]

I can't see it happening. Had it been during the season before Gobert's extension kicked in, and we still had Boucher & Dragic on the books, then it may have been a bit more possible. I'm also a bit wary of paying guys 35+ Mill per season if I'm not sure they can be on the court in crunch time in a big game.

That said, if Masai & Bobby really believe that we could unlock something with Gobert in the middle, I'd be excited to watch it happen. But beyond the issue of Gobert's big salary on the books, salary matching is really tough! The only trade that actually makes sense is Pascal for Rudy, because then at least we wouldn't be left too thin. But I can't see us trading Pascal.

It would be a fascinating defensive team, but we'd need to find another scorer/playmaker to help score in the half court.

[MikeG]

Sounds like Atlanta will take Gobert as that's the most reasonable package that Utah can get. Ayton was rumoured to Atlanta, but bodog didn't even consider them a threat to go there, so that was likely just garbage.

I didn't take Jake Fischer's rumours seriously, but Scotto is actually legitimately connected and he suggested OG would be available for a "top 10" pick and Portland is in those bodog odds. Most likely OG is a Raptor, but if there's a dude the Raptors love at Portland's pick I could see that coming together on draft day.

I think it's more likely (not to say VERY likely) that OG goes to Portland, #7 plus stuff (Josh Hart?) goes to the Kings, and #4 (Ivey?) plus Richaun Holmes comes back to the Raptors.

It's not likely enough for me to try to add contracts to make it work in the trade machine, but I can envision a deal like that happening.

I'm mostly basing it off bodog's odds that were posted a few pages back:

Toronto Raptors-800
Portland Trail Blazers+750
Utah Jazz+1000
Minnesota Timberwolves+1200
Phoenix Suns+1200
Orlando Magic+5000

Sacramento not even reaching out.

Wait … what odds are this??

Edit—- never mind I found it. Thought you were talking about the Gobert odds I was like WTF

[ATLTimekeeper]

I think it's more likely (not to say VERY likely) that OG goes to Portland, #7 plus stuff (Josh Hart?) goes to the Kings, and #4 (Ivey?) plus Richaun Holmes comes back to the Raptors.

It's not likely enough for me to try to add contracts to make it work in the trade machine, but I can envision a deal like that happening.

I'm mostly basing it off bodog's odds that were posted a few pages back:

Toronto Raptors-800
Portland Trail Blazers+750
Utah Jazz+1000
Minnesota Timberwolves+1200
Phoenix Suns+1200
Orlando Magic+5000

Sacramento not even reaching out.

Wait … what odds are this??

OG's team next year.

[ForeverTFC]

Unless it's Trent + bench pieces, count me out.

[JB7]

I'm surprised in all the trade ideas proposed here, Siakam's name has not come up.

When MU traded for Kawhi, it was DD (Raps best player) heading the other way, along with other pieces. MU is not afraid to make the big move if he feels it will help the team.

Deal could be PS for Gobert straight-up. PS would be the best player Utah could get in return.

It keeps shooters surrounding Gobert and Barnes (FVV, OG & GTJ) in the starting lineup. Bench of Precious, Thad, Banton and ? (MLE player). Only players under 6'8/6'9 are FVV and GTJ.

Financially, PS is only making $4.5M less than Gobert next year. Gobert is locked up for 4 years (through the rest of his probably good playing years), while PS will need an extension in 2 years, which will be more costly. Age wise, Gobert is only 2 years older than PS.

Plus, none of the future young core is moved (Barnes, OG, GTJ, and Precious).

[Godaddycurse]

I'm surprised in all the trade ideas proposed here, Siakam's name has not come up.

When MU traded for Kawhi, it was DD (Raps best player) heading the other way, along with other pieces. MU is not afraid to make the big move if he feels it will help the team.

Deal could be PS for Gobert straight-up. PS would be the best player Utah could get in return.

It keeps shooters surrounding Gobert and Barnes (FVV, OG & GTJ) in the starting lineup. Bench of Precious, Thad, Banton and ? (MLE player). Only players under 6'8/6'9 are FVV and GTJ.

Financially, PS is only making $4.5M less than Gobert next year. Gobert is locked up for 4 years (through the rest of his probably good playing years), while PS will need an extension in 2 years, which will be more costly. Age wise, Gobert is only 2 years older than PS.

Plus, none of the future young core is moved (Barnes, OG, GTJ, and Precious).

Because trading siakam for gobert doesn't make us better. It tanks our offense and more than offset any improvement (imo marginal) we gain defensively

[Raptors Realtor]

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Capella, Collins & 16th... and of course Ainge is asking for more lol, he's so ridiculous.

[JB7]

I'm surprised in all the trade ideas proposed here, Siakam's name has not come up.

When MU traded for Kawhi, it was DD (Raps best player) heading the other way, along with other pieces. MU is not afraid to make the big move if he feels it will help the team.

Deal could be PS for Gobert straight-up. PS would be the best player Utah could get in return.

It keeps shooters surrounding Gobert and Barnes (FVV, OG & GTJ) in the starting lineup. Bench of Precious, Thad, Banton and ? (MLE player). Only players under 6'8/6'9 are FVV and GTJ.

Financially, PS is only making $4.5M less than Gobert next year. Gobert is locked up for 4 years (through the rest of his probably good playing years), while PS will need an extension in 2 years, which will be more costly. Age wise, Gobert is only 2 years older than PS.

Plus, none of the future young core is moved (Barnes, OG, GTJ, and Precious).

Because trading siakam for gobert doesn't make us better. It tanks our offense and more than offset any improvement (imo marginal) we gain defensively

Unless MU thinks Barnes can step into the role PS took on at the end of the season, and MU wants to capitalize on PS value being at its peak. One year ago, a deal like this would have been an absolute no go for Utah. MU sell high on PS and buy low on Gobert.