The already approaching roster crunch

[DelAbbot]

at some point they need to start consolidating assets.

as others have said, at worst just waive svi and brooks is probably gone.

Kinda hard when the assets you want to consolidate, suck.

Pretty sure "assets to consolidate" refer to GTJ, FVV, OG and Siakam, not these fringe guys who could be cut anytime

[WaltFrazier]

So many guys that bring no value whatsoever. Keep champagne and Banton but IMO get rid of Svi, Flynn, Thad, Brooks. I forget who else, but these guys do nothing for us long term and hold no value around the league. I'm surprised so many ppl want to bring Thad back too.



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Thad was such a useless trade, his impact was negligible. Some will say anything to justify the trade, his veteran leadership led this team to a first round exit lol and we gave up 13 spots in the draft for no reason.

The ones who think it was a bad trade still can't give a compelling argument as to why it was bad. Hopefully one day they can and we can have a productive discussion about it. "Impact was negligible." You know what else is negligible? The difference between the 20th pick and the 33rd pick.

Funny stuff.

I ended up liking Thad and seeing his value, and wasn't too concerned about the drop in draft position. But to the more adamant defenders of the trade, how will you feel if Thad signs elsewhere? Still a good trade?

Not arguing, just curious how people will feel if he walks

[bluerap23]

Thad was such a useless trade, his impact was negligible. Some will say anything to justify the trade, his veteran leadership led this team to a first round exit lol and we gave up 13 spots in the draft for no reason.

The ones who think it was a bad trade still can't give a compelling argument as to why it was bad. Hopefully one day they can and we can have a productive discussion about it. "Impact was negligible." You know what else is negligible? The difference between the 20th pick and the 33rd pick.

Funny stuff.

I ended up liking Thad and seeing his value, and wasn't too concerned about the drop in draft position. But to the more adamant defenders of the trade, how will you feel if Thad signs elsewhere? Still a good trade?

Not arguing, just curious how people will feel if he walks

Part of the value was to try and advance past the first round which didn’t happen but we still competed well with a contender. There is value in gaining experience for a young squad. We also avoided the playin, ensuring playoff games. At the time of the trade we were hovering at 6-7 seed territory.

Normally I would not advocate for dropping in the draft, but this particular draft was extremely flat outside the lottery. Would anyone be surprised if we drafted Koloko at 20? We have the added benefit of his contract flexibility as a 2nd rounder which was likely part of their equation.

I’m sure the haters will disagree. What else is new? Everyone here thinks they are smarter than the FO

[Morse Code]

He openly admitted he was going to be bought out of not traded for. How's that for compelling lol. Even if he chose someone else and didn't sign here it's not like his impact was so big that it made the trade good. It was a bad trade but if some people want to wear rose glasses who am I to stop them.

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[Jerry Lucas]

In order to use the full MLE and bring back both Boucher and Thad for what they're going to make, Khem Birch has to be moved. Assuming he is moved, that roster spot can be used on giving Koloko an NBA deal.

Also I doubt the Raps are bringing Harris back, and David Johnson can probably just fill the final 2-way contract spot again. I doubt another team would offer David Johnson an NBA contract.

[aligator]

LOL....typical

[Jim Todd Jr.]

Jalen Harris is not playing for us.. RHJr will prob not be with the big club either… Svi can get cut too

[Jim Todd Jr.]

The ones who think it was a bad trade still can't give a compelling argument as to why it was bad. Hopefully one day they can and we can have a productive discussion about it. "Impact was negligible." You know what else is negligible? The difference between the 20th pick and the 33rd pick.

Funny stuff.

I ended up liking Thad and seeing his value, and wasn't too concerned about the drop in draft position. But to the more adamant defenders of the trade, how will you feel if Thad signs elsewhere? Still a good trade?

Not arguing, just curious how people will feel if he walks

Part of the value was to try and advance past the first round which didn’t happen but we still competed well with a contender. There is value in gaining experience for a young squad. We also avoided the playin, ensuring playoff games. At the time of the trade we were hovering at 6-7 seed territory.

Normally I would not advocate for dropping in the draft, but this particular draft was extremely flat outside the lottery. Would anyone be surprised if we drafted Koloko at 20? We have the added benefit of his contract flexibility as a 2nd rounder which was likely part of their equation.

I’m sure the haters will disagree. What else is new? Everyone here thinks they are smarter than the FO

Lets be real, that trade was about saving money… it was spun to us as a playoff push addition. His involvement and minutes say otherwise.

[bongmarley]

Siakam, Fred, OG, Barnes ,Trent Jr, Precious, Birch, Flynn, Koloko, Banton, J Champ, Svi/Brooks (12)

Boucher, Thad, MLE (Free Agent) (3)

Harper jr, Johnson (2 way) (2)

On
Can easily cut Svi/Brooks or Keep J Champ on 2 way for another year to make roster spots. Not really a roster crunch at all really

[Asif16]

Just cuz we got hella players dont mean **** when it comes to a roster crunch.

Our bench is all Scrubs and trash heap outside of Precious. Roster crunch or not, our bench need a rehaul

[ontnut]

I ended up liking Thad and seeing his value, and wasn't too concerned about the drop in draft position. But to the more adamant defenders of the trade, how will you feel if Thad signs elsewhere? Still a good trade?

Not arguing, just curious how people will feel if he walks

Part of the value was to try and advance past the first round which didn’t happen but we still competed well with a contender. There is value in gaining experience for a young squad. We also avoided the playin, ensuring playoff games. At the time of the trade we were hovering at 6-7 seed territory.

Normally I would not advocate for dropping in the draft, but this particular draft was extremely flat outside the lottery. Would anyone be surprised if we drafted Koloko at 20? We have the added benefit of his contract flexibility as a 2nd rounder which was likely part of their equation.

I’m sure the haters will disagree. What else is new? Everyone here thinks they are smarter than the FO

Lets be real, that trade was about saving money… it was spun to us as a playoff push addition. His involvement and minutes say otherwise.

I think the saving money angle was in play too. I was 50/50 on the addition of Thad alone - he'd help but wasn't going to be a difference maker. Figured that since he wasn't playing much in SA, he might be well rested and help contribute to the playoff run with a surprise bump in production. Part of that came true. But when I saw the inclusion of the pick from 1st to 2nd round, in combination with our likely desire to re-sign Boucher (and others in the future) I really thought that we were trying to save some cap space for our draft pick, without completely dropping out of the draft. We save about $1.3 mil in salary with the trade. Not a huge amount but it could be significant for tax levels.

[WaltFrazier]

Where is Yuta in all this?

[MadDogSHWA]

Thad was such a useless trade, his impact was negligible. Some will say anything to justify the trade, his veteran leadership led this team to a first round exit lol and we gave up 13 spots in the draft for no reason.

The ones who think it was a bad trade still can't give a compelling argument as to why it was bad. Hopefully one day they can and we can have a productive discussion about it. "Impact was negligible." You know what else is negligible? The difference between the 20th pick and the 33rd pick.

Funny stuff.

I ended up liking Thad and seeing his value, and wasn't too concerned about the drop in draft position. But to the more adamant defenders of the trade, how will you feel if Thad signs elsewhere? Still a good trade?

Not arguing, just curious how people will feel if he walks

It gave us cap relief to put us at full MLE, right? If we then sign a high-impact bench player with the full MLE then it's well worth it. I suppose that's a big IF though.

[MadDogSHWA]

He openly admitted he was going to be bought out of not traded for.

He said he thought that. Did he ever say why he thought that? It honestly might be nothing more than the fact he wasn't playing and is old.

[Los_29]

He openly admitted he was going to be bought out of not traded for.

That's irrelevant because he also said that 8 teams were interested in him. Therefore we would have had to compete to get him. Moving down 13 spots insured we got him.

So no, that's not a compelling argument.

[Jim Todd Jr.]

Part of the value was to try and advance past the first round which didn’t happen but we still competed well with a contender. There is value in gaining experience for a young squad. We also avoided the playin, ensuring playoff games. At the time of the trade we were hovering at 6-7 seed territory.

Normally I would not advocate for dropping in the draft, but this particular draft was extremely flat outside the lottery. Would anyone be surprised if we drafted Koloko at 20? We have the added benefit of his contract flexibility as a 2nd rounder which was likely part of their equation.

I’m sure the haters will disagree. What else is new? Everyone here thinks they are smarter than the FO

Lets be real, that trade was about saving money… it was spun to us as a playoff push addition. His involvement and minutes say otherwise.

I think the saving money angle was in play too. I was 50/50 on the addition of Thad alone - he'd help but wasn't going to be a difference maker. Figured that since he wasn't playing much in SA, he might be well rested and help contribute to the playoff run with a surprise bump in production. Part of that came true. But when I saw the inclusion of the pick from 1st to 2nd round, in combination with our likely desire to re-sign Boucher (and others in the future) I really thought that we were trying to save some cap space for our draft pick, without completely dropping out of the draft. We save about $1.3 mil in salary with the trade. Not a huge amount but it could be significant for tax levels.

If I remember correctly - it took us out of the tax last year

[Morse Code]

He openly admitted he was going to be bought out of not traded for.

That's irrelevant because he also said that 8 teams were interested in him. Therefore we would have had to compete to get him. Moving down 13 spots insured we got him.

So no, that's not a compelling argument.

Moving down 13 spots for Thad young is a bad trade bro. We lost in the first round anyways which we knew would happen regardless and Thad sucks and he's old. Bad trade.

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[Madhouse]

In order to use the full MLE and bring back both Boucher and Thad for what they're going to make, Khem Birch has to be moved. Assuming he is moved, that roster spot can be used on giving Koloko an NBA deal.

Also I doubt the Raps are bringing Harris back, and David Johnson can probably just fill the final 2-way contract spot again. I doubt another team would offer David Johnson an NBA contract.

I don't think Young and Boucher make over 20/21 million a year combined but maybe I'm wrong.

[Madhouse]

The roster crunch is nice and all but what matters is who are serious rotational level players right now?

I don't think anyone feels real good about anyone outside the top 6. So it's at least 1 of Boucher/Young and a serious MLE signing to have a decent rotation. Anyone else is rather irrelevant.

[Madhouse]

The ones who think it was a bad trade still can't give a compelling argument as to why it was bad. Hopefully one day they can and we can have a productive discussion about it. "Impact was negligible." You know what else is negligible? The difference between the 20th pick and the 33rd pick.

Funny stuff.

I ended up liking Thad and seeing his value, and wasn't too concerned about the drop in draft position. But to the more adamant defenders of the trade, how will you feel if Thad signs elsewhere? Still a good trade?

Not arguing, just curious how people will feel if he walks

It gave us cap relief to put us at full MLE, right? If we then sign a high-impact bench player with the full MLE then it's well worth it. I suppose that's a big IF though.

Feels like we need to replace the FO with Scottie Barnes for FO. We badly need a serious MLE signing.