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2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#621 » by Spida888 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:28 am

alevirfe wrote:I think Cleveland says no, but:

CLE out: Mobley & Garland
CLE in: Siakam & OG

I actually think this balances Cle's roster really well, but definitely puts them on the clock

CLE definitely says no. Replace Garland with filler, and they may still say no.

Mobley is on a rookie contract with many years of contractual control and really high upside. If Siakam and OG had more years left on their contract, maybe it's a different story.
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#622 » by alevirfe » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:24 am

Spida888 wrote:
alevirfe wrote:I think Cleveland says no, but:

CLE out: Mobley & Garland
CLE in: Siakam & OG

I actually think this balances Cle's roster really well, but definitely puts them on the clock

CLE definitely says no. Replace Garland with filler, and they may still say no.

Mobley is on a rookie contract with many years of contractual control and really high upside. If Siakam and OG had more years left on their contract, maybe it's a different story.


yea, hard to disagree with this. we also can't attach any picks because it would defeat the purpose of rebuilding/losing games in the coming years with Scottie/Mobley

I think a more realistic trade would be to swap OG for Jarret Allen, but it probably doesn't move the needle enough for the Raps
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#623 » by hyper316 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:45 am

HumbleRen wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:Pascal to blazers for simons, sharpe, hart
OG to pelicans for daniels, murphy, LA pick
FVV to Orlando for Mo bamba, Cole Anthony, pick

here are your trades Masai :]


FVV to Orlando one seems the most likely out of these 3 options.


I'd do Fred for Bamba + Suggs + pick

Reunite Scottie and Suggs (they are good friends) but not sure Masai/Bobby since Suggs did pretty bad in Predraft workouts
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#624 » by S.W.A.N » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:56 am

HumbleRen wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:Pascal to blazers for simons, sharpe, hart
OG to pelicans for daniels, murphy, LA pick
FVV to Orlando for Mo bamba, Cole Anthony, pick

here are your trades Masai :]


FVV to Orlando one seems the most likely out of these 3 options. And OG to pelicans


Fixed to reflect current OG rumors

Honestly Fred seems like he needs to go. And OG trade value is sky high. Trading the two of them gives us our tank and a boat load of assest.

A victor or scoot draft is worth it.
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#625 » by HumbleRen » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:58 am

S.W.A.N wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:Pascal to blazers for simons, sharpe, hart
OG to pelicans for daniels, murphy, LA pick
FVV to Orlando for Mo bamba, Cole Anthony, pick

here are your trades Masai :]


FVV to Orlando one seems the most likely out of these 3 options. And OG to pelicans


Fixed to reflect current OG rumors

Honestly Fred seems like he needs to go. And OG trade value is sky high. Trading the two of them gives us our tank and a boat load of assest.

A victor or scoot draft is worth it.


I don't think the Pelicans one is too realistic. Murphy and Daniels combined will be better than OG by next year lol.

Murphy is averaging 13 on near 50/40/90 splits as a 22 year old.
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#626 » by S.W.A.N » Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:02 am

HumbleRen wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
FVV to Orlando one seems the most likely out of these 3 options. And OG to pelicans


Fixed to reflect current OG rumors

Honestly Fred seems like he needs to go. And OG trade value is sky high. Trading the two of them gives us our tank and a boat load of assest.

A victor or scoot draft is worth it.


I don't think the Pelicans one is too realistic. Murphy and Daniels combined will be better than OG by next year lol.

Murphy is averaging 13 on near 50/40/90 splits as a 22 year old.


Meh. Deal might need work but NO has plenty of young assets and picks and are on the clock with Zion. OG is a perfect fit for them
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#627 » by HumbleRen » Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:12 am

S.W.A.N wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
Fixed to reflect current OG rumors

Honestly Fred seems like he needs to go. And OG trade value is sky high. Trading the two of them gives us our tank and a boat load of assest.

A victor or scoot draft is worth it.


I don't think the Pelicans one is too realistic. Murphy and Daniels combined will be better than OG by next year lol.

Murphy is averaging 13 on near 50/40/90 splits as a 22 year old.


Meh. Deal might need work but NO has plenty of young assets and picks and are on the clock with Zion. OG is a perfect fit for them


Don’t see it happening but hey, if Bobby and Masai can pull a fast one on them then great.
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#628 » by Thaddy » Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:03 am

We should be targeting Mo Bamba. With Issac, Paulo, and WCJ there aren't enough minutes for Bamba and Bamba will want a new contract next year.

Trent, Birch for Bamba, Ross

WCJ - Isaac
Paulo - Isaac
Wagner - Harris
Trent - Anthony
Fultz - Suggs

Bamba - Achiuwa - Koloko
Siakam - Boucher
Barnes - Ross - OPJ
OG - Ross - Banton
FVV - Flynn

This looks like a no brainer for both sides. They get a test drive before giving Trent a huge deal, we get a shooter and a stretch big that can protect the rim. We can finish out the season with Ross and then have OPJ replace him next season. We also get an extra season to see how Achiuwa and Koloko develop to see if we want to bring back Bamba. If we are able to capitalize on the Magic's possible state of desperation we could try to grab a first rounder too like the 2025 DEN 1st round pick.
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Post#629 » by ImaBeatDatAzz » Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:09 am

Thaddy wrote:We should be targeting Mo Bamba. With Issac, Paulo, and WCJ there aren't enough minutes for Bamba and Bamba will want a new contract next year.

Trent, Birch for Bamba, Ross

WCJ - Isaac
Paulo - Isaac
Wagner - Harris
Trent - Anthony
Fultz - Suggs

Bamba - Achiuwa - Koloko
Siakam - Boucher
Barnes - Ross - OPJ
OG - Ross - Banton
FVV - Flynn

This looks like a no brainer for both sides. They get a test drive before giving Trent a huge deal, we get a shooter and a stretch big that can protect the rim. We can finish out the season with Ross and then have OPJ replace him next season. We also get an extra season to see how Achiuwa and Koloko develop to see if we want to bring back Bamba. If we are able to capitalize on the Magic's possible state of desperation we could try to grab a first rounder too like the 2025 DEN 1st round pick.

we get fleeced here soo hard. you dont trade a gtj for a mo bamba
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Post#630 » by StopitLeo » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:09 pm

Let’s assume OG actually wants out and that the Kings, who are surprisingly 3rd in the West, want to try and make a deep playoff run.

OG + Birch = Holmes + Murray + 2 first round picks

Sacramento gets a big upgrade at SF, especially on the defensive end with OG. Birch replaces centre depth lost by trading Holmes.

Toronto solves its centre issue for the the next 1-2 seasons and picks up a solid young prospect in Murray. The Raptors also get two future firsts since OG is easily the most talented player in the trade (right now, Murray looks pretty good).
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Post#631 » by Psubs » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:57 pm

Steven Adams is out 3-5 weeks.

Toronto trades: Thaddeus Young, Chris Boucher and cash

Memphis trades: Brandon Clark and Danny Green
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#632 » by Thaddy » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:15 pm

ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:
Thaddy wrote:We should be targeting Mo Bamba. With Issac, Paulo, and WCJ there aren't enough minutes for Bamba and Bamba will want a new contract next year.

Trent, Birch for Bamba, Ross

WCJ - Isaac
Paulo - Isaac
Wagner - Harris
Trent - Anthony
Fultz - Suggs

Bamba - Achiuwa - Koloko
Siakam - Boucher
Barnes - Ross - OPJ
OG - Ross - Banton
FVV - Flynn

This looks like a no brainer for both sides. They get a test drive before giving Trent a huge deal, we get a shooter and a stretch big that can protect the rim. We can finish out the season with Ross and then have OPJ replace him next season. We also get an extra season to see how Achiuwa and Koloko develop to see if we want to bring back Bamba. If we are able to capitalize on the Magic's possible state of desperation we could try to grab a first rounder too like the 2025 DEN 1st round pick.

we get fleeced here soo hard. you dont trade a gtj for a mo bamba

What if you got the Chicago 1st back?
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#633 » by ImaBeatDatAzz » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:00 pm

StopitLeo wrote:Let’s assume OG actually wants out and that the Kings, who are surprisingly 3rd in the West, want to try and make a deep playoff run.

OG + Birch = Holmes + Murray + 2 first round picks

Sacramento gets a big upgrade at SF, especially on the defensive end with OG. Birch replaces centre depth lost by trading Holmes.

Toronto solves its centre issue for the the next 1-2 seasons and picks up a solid young prospect in Murray. The Raptors also get two future firsts since OG is easily the most talented player in the trade (right now, Murray looks pretty good).

No way they trade murray. He is way too good of a prospect for an OG. Then 2 picks on top of that? Kings laugh and hang up. I wish this could happen

But also.. this is kings FO we talking about soo who knows lol
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#634 » by agkagk » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:07 pm

ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:
StopitLeo wrote:Let’s assume OG actually wants out and that the Kings, who are surprisingly 3rd in the West, want to try and make a deep playoff run.

OG + Birch = Holmes + Murray + 2 first round picks

Sacramento gets a big upgrade at SF, especially on the defensive end with OG. Birch replaces centre depth lost by trading Holmes.

Toronto solves its centre issue for the the next 1-2 seasons and picks up a solid young prospect in Murray. The Raptors also get two future firsts since OG is easily the most talented player in the trade (right now, Murray looks pretty good).

No way they trade murray. He is way too good of a prospect for an OG. Then 2 picks on top of that? Kings laugh and hang up. I wish this could happen

But also.. this is kings FO we talking about soo who knows lol


i dont see keegan having a higher ceiling then og.

murray, a first and a secondary young player that isnt nearly as interesting as murray is probably fair....maybe we can squeeze a decent second out of them, but not much more than that.
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#635 » by agkagk » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:09 pm

Psubs wrote:Steven Adams is out 3-5 weeks.

Toronto trades: Thaddeus Young, Chris Boucher and cash

Memphis trades: Brandon Clark and Danny Green


i dont see them trading green unless theyre getting a more significant veteran piece back. From what ive read they view him as a strong mentor to help their young team learn to win in the playoffs.

otherwise, something centered around boucher for clarke sounds dope to me!
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#636 » by Zeno » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:18 pm

OG to Knicks for Fournier, Knicks 2023, Dallas 2023, Knicks 2025.
Fred to Dallas for Bertans, lifting of protections on their 2023 pick plus Dallas 2025 1st.
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#637 » by Lord_Zedd » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:32 pm

Zeno wrote:OG to Knicks for Fournier, Knicks 2023, Dallas 2023, Knicks 2025.
Fred to Dallas for Bertans, lifting of protections on their 2023 pick plus Dallas 2025 1st.


Fournier and Bertans are horrendous contracts for what they provide on the court. Knicks/Dallas aren't getting away that easily
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Re: 2022-23 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#638 » by Zeno » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:34 pm

Lord_Zedd wrote:
Zeno wrote:OG to Knicks for Fournier, Knicks 2023, Dallas 2023, Knicks 2025.
Fred to Dallas for Bertans, lifting of protections on their 2023 pick plus Dallas 2025 1st.


Fournier and Bertans are horrendous contracts for what they provide on the court. Knicks/Dallas aren't getting away that easily

They both basically expire next year. I think Bertans has 5 million guaranteed for the season after. They are not players I'd want, I agree.
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Post#639 » by douggood » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:43 pm

Zeno wrote:OG to Knicks for Fournier, Knicks 2023, Dallas 2023, Knicks 2025.
Fred to Dallas for Bertans, lifting of protections on their 2023 pick plus Dallas 2025 1st.

og offer is light, make adjustments to picks (dont want 2 picks in the late teens this year) and maybe add sims and dump birch.

the mavs one i wouldnt even consider unless a 2nd first rounder is added.
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Post#640 » by DangerZone13 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:46 pm

StopitLeo wrote:Let’s assume OG actually wants out and that the Kings, who are surprisingly 3rd in the West, want to try and make a deep playoff run.

OG + Birch = Holmes + Murray + 2 first round picks

Sacramento gets a big upgrade at SF, especially on the defensive end with OG. Birch replaces centre depth lost by trading Holmes.

Toronto solves its centre issue for the the next 1-2 seasons and picks up a solid young prospect in Murray. The Raptors also get two future firsts since OG is easily the most talented player in the trade (right now, Murray looks pretty good).


I'd love that trade, but I'm positive 2 1sts is too much on top of Murray. We're one of few teams where Holmes would be trade-positive, so it would be uard to argue needing more value for taking him on, and with how Murray has looked so far this year - I think we'd have a hard time selling the Kings on a straight OG for Murray deal on it's own given contract status, injuries, etc. Just getting to the playoffs is like a championship to the Kings given where they've been at, so I don't think they're aiming at the title without some more reworking this summer after seeing how they stack up come playoff time.

If we move OG, I'd love it to be for a package like this but I just don't see it.
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