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Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2024-26

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:25 pm
by Thaddy
Birch was a +3.6 on-off. +3.6 OnCourt.
Koloko is a +10.9 on-off. +8.6 OnCourt.

We are a borderline lottery team with a scrub and 2nd rounder as our primary centers. Poeltl has approximately been a +10 plus/minus player when the Spurs weren't a complete tank job.

We aren't going to convey a lottery pick next season. We will finish in the top 6 or the play in this year, and add depth plus another year of development for Barnes, Achiuwa, Banton, and Koloko. OPJ is back next season. We cannot be worse unless there is a talent shift back into the East. It's a good deal. Vote abysmal if you didn't read this post and you are an emotional teenager.

Re: Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2023-25

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:27 pm
by traps#10
MLSE only cares about playoff money. If we magically become a contender in the future that’s the cherry on top.

Re: Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2023-25

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:28 pm
by Kordic27
I don't get it. What's the strategy here? Do management really feel like this core is competitive or can grow into something competitive?

Re: Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2023-25

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:29 pm
by LBJKB24MJ23
and Poeltl wants $20M lol

whos giving this guy $20M

Re: Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2023-25

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:30 pm
by TorontoBarneys
It's pretty bad lol.

Re: Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2023-25

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:30 pm
by Lord_Zedd
At this point, let's see how much we re-sign Poeltl.

If we outbid ourselves and give him that +$20 million that he wants, this is brutal.

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Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:30 pm
by Reeko
It's bad because of the light protection on pick. The only reason it's not abysmal is because we gave up Khem Birch and nothing from our core.

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Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:30 pm
by Brinbe
We goin for 10th, baybeeeeeee :wink:

:lol:

Re: Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2023-25

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:30 pm
by DemHeavyHands
Is that supposed to be abyssal or abysmal?? Lol either way

Re: Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2023-25

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:31 pm
by traps#10
Kordic27 wrote:I don't get it. What's the strategy here? Do management really feel like this core is competitive or can grow into something competitive?


Strictly playoffs revenue. As long as we get at least 2 playoff games per year we are golden!

Re: Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2023-25

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:31 pm
by ItsDanger
DemHeavyHands wrote:Is that supposed to be abyssal or abysmal?? Lol either way

It's so bad, he couldn't even spell it correctly. LOL

Re: Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2023-25

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:33 pm
by Bankai
Value Wise, I think its a fair deal. The question mark is does Yak fit into any long term Raptors plans?

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Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:33 pm
by Thaddy
ItsDanger wrote:
DemHeavyHands wrote:Is that supposed to be abyssal or abysmal?? Lol either way

It's so bad, he couldn't even spell it correctly. LOL

I corrected it for you :)

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Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:34 pm
by TorontoBarneys
DemHeavyHands wrote:Is that supposed to be abyssal or abysmal?? Lol either way


It's abyssal because it leaves a dark void in our hearts about the direction of this team?

Re: Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2023-25

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:34 pm
by TheRaptor!
Kordic27 wrote:I don't get it. What's the strategy here? Do management really feel like this core is competitive or can grow into something competitive?


You stay competitive while accumulating assets until you have enough to swing for a star ala 2019

We simply do not tank, this is not how we roll.

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Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:34 pm
by Duffman100
I don't like this. Light protection on the 2024 pick after our team has been incredibly meh this year. Losing a 38th-45th second rounder that could have added depth to our much needed bench.

They MUST have a silent shake hand agreement with Poeltl that he's resigning.

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Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:35 pm
by Boardbreaker
2024-2026*

Re: Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2023-25

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:36 pm
by TheRaptor!
Duffman100 wrote:I don't like this. Light protection on the 2024 pick after our team has been incredibly meh this year. Losing a 38th-45th second rounder that could have added depth to our much needed bench.

They MUST have a silent shake hand agreement with Poeltl that he's resigning.


There is 0 doubt that Poeltl has already agreed to re sign

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Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:37 pm
by artsncrafts
Duffman100 wrote:I don't like this. Light protection on the 2024 pick after our team has been incredibly meh this year. Losing a 38th-45th second rounder that could have added depth to our much needed bench.

They MUST have a silent shake hand agreement with Poeltl that he's resigning.


Well they have bird rights so I am sure they will pay the man his money. Should they spend a large portion of their cap on Purtle? probably not.

Re: Poll - Yak deal. Good or bad. Top 6 protected 2023-25

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:38 pm
by Kordic27
TheRaptor! wrote:
Kordic27 wrote:I don't get it. What's the strategy here? Do management really feel like this core is competitive or can grow into something competitive?


You stay competitive while accumulating assets until you have enough to swing for a star ala 2019

We simply do not tank, this is not how we roll.


I sort of get it, but I would have thought that part of that strategy is accumulating and developing young talent, and hoping that, even if you don't tank and get high draft picks, you get good or better players from good drafting.

I mean, I still trust Masai and Bobby know what theyre doing, of course, and I do think draft picks can be overvalued, but it definitely feels like our ceiling this year is homecourt play-in. At best.