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How big is the gap between Dennis Schroder & Fred Van Vleet?

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How big is the difference between the 2 players

No difference - If Dennis had the same opportunity as Fred had last year, they would have similar performance + Impact
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23%
Minor difference - Fred is slightly better given the same opportunity
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Considerably - Fred is considerably better than Denis and is in another tier
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Significant downgrade - Fred is significantly better than Dennis! Huge drop off in impact with Dennis
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13%
 
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How big is the gap between Dennis Schroder & Fred Van Vleet? 

Post#1 » by WeTheNorth123 » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:34 pm

They are both 29 years old (both have had 20 or close to 20ppg seasons)

They have some similarities in their game! Both can get hot and score! (both somewhat inefficient from the field)

Both are pretty active defenders/tries to be pesky

Fred's a better 3 point shooter but Dennis is a better slasher with more speed/better first step

One gets paid 40+ mil a year while the other gets 13 mil a year

Honest question! How big is the drop off in team performance if you plug in DENNIS SCHRODER and take out FRED Van Vleet?

I personally think Dennis has a higher BBIQ than Fred, which I really like adding to the team.

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Re: How big is the gap between Dennis Schroder & Fred Van Vleet? 

Post#2 » by will » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:35 pm

One bet on himself and won, and knows how to play the politics game.

The other bet on himself and lost, and seems to be a hot head at times.
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Post#3 » by DreamTeam09 » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:36 pm

Not as big as the media is gonna/already make it out to seem.
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Re: How big is the gap between Dennis Schroder & Fred Van Vleet? 

Post#4 » by Jim Todd Jr. » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:39 pm

Completely different players so I cant say

Depends on context of system and fit

We def lose three point shooting and probably gain on ball defense
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Post#5 » by Brinbe » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:39 pm

fred's a better shooter from 3, has good hands for those dig-in steals and that's about it.

don't think we'll have as much of a drop-off as ppl think
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Post#6 » by GP2 » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:39 pm

Over 100 million.
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Post#7 » by Los_29 » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:40 pm

43 million to 13 million. That's how big the gap is.
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Post#8 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:40 pm

I voted no difference, whatever Fred exceeds him at in terms of basketball ability Dennis surpasses Fred at in terms of fit and style of play. They cancel each other out for me in terms of overall impact on a team. That's how disruptive to the flow of the game I believe Fred was.
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Post#9 » by WeTheNorth123 » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:47 pm

Dennis adds a lot more size to the raptors in the sense that he has a surprising 6-7/8 wingspan

Can get some of those layups to drop unlike fred lol
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Post#10 » by C_Money » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:49 pm

I actually like the signing because Schroder is fast and can attack the paint.

We are still firmly stuck in no man’s land however. So its hard to get too excited.
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Post#11 » by SFour » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:49 pm

Fred is a better 3pt shooter....that might be it
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Post#12 » by bboyskinnylegs » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:50 pm

Los_29 wrote:43 million to 13 million. That's how big the gap is.

they can both thank Houston for their current contracts, which I think they otherwise would never have received.
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Re: How big is the gap between Dennis Schroder & Fred Van Vleet? 

Post#13 » by MiamiSPX » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:50 pm

This won't end well......
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Re: How big is the gap between Dennis Schroder & Fred Van Vleet? 

Post#14 » by will » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:51 pm

WeTheNorth123 wrote:Dennis adds a lot more size to the raptors in the sense that he has a surprising 6-7/8 wingspan

Can get some of those layups to drop unlike fred lol


Dennis is a quite decent finisher at the hoop. The wingspan as you mentioned.
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Post#15 » by Raps in 4 » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:52 pm

Shroder is barely an NBA player while Fred is one of the better PGs in the league. Shroder isn't a good shooter or passer and he has low basketball IQ.

But it doesn't matter. I'm just happy we didn't overpay Fred. Shroder will average 15-20 MPG for us and that's what we paid him to do.
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Re: How big is the gap between Dennis Schroder & Fred Van Vleet? 

Post#16 » by will » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:53 pm

MiamiSPX wrote:This won't end well......


2 years.

I see Dennis starting the season at the PG spot (I know that's likely an unpopular take), and then moves to the bench 25 games or so into the season.

He'll be on his best behaviour because I suspect he signed this deal as a "prove it" type of deal.
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Post#17 » by 720 » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:53 pm

I don’t think Schroeder is going to be expected to have the same huge role. So it doesn’t really matter. I’m more viewing it as how talented is he for a 6th/7th/8th man. Which is the role I see for him.
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Re: How big is the gap between Dennis Schroder & Fred Van Vleet? 

Post#18 » by mihaic » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:53 pm

SFour wrote:Fred is a better 3pt shooter....that might be it

By a hair.
In the last season, Fredmade one more 3-point-shot every 100 shots he took, when compared to Schroeder
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Re: How big is the gap between Dennis Schroder & Fred Van Vleet? 

Post#19 » by MiamiSPX » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:55 pm

will wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:This won't end well......


2 years.

I see Dennis starting the season at the PG spot (I know that's likely an unpopular take), and then moves to the bench 25 games or so into the season.

He'll be on his best behaviour because I suspect he signed this deal as a "prove it" type of deal.


I meant the thread won't end well :D

I have no issue with the dollars. That's 7th-8th man money soon. The man has been humbled since turning down that big LAL deal.
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Re: How big is the gap between Dennis Schroder & Fred Van Vleet? 

Post#20 » by TorontoRapsFan » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:56 pm

considerable difference in FVV favour but difference in team performance will be in schroeder favor
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