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Stein: “Masai works on his own clock” 

Post#1 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:25 pm

The way Saturday's Anunoby deal with New York emerged without warning illustrated yet again that Raptors president Masai Ujiri moves according to his own clock. He has repeatedly found the gumption to tune out external voices demanding action as well as criticism — both of which have been rising in volume north of the border since VanVleet bolted for Houston in free agency without compensation in July — and move when he decides the Raptors are ready.

As it was put to me during the recent G League Showcase in Orlando: You haven't been paying attention if you're surprised Ujiri operates in this manner. I was reminded that Ujiri's patience, even when impatience around him is mounting, has been evident for nearly 15 years, going back to the Carmelo Anthony trade saga in Denver that consumed the first five months of the 2010-11 season until Ujiri finally dealt Anthony to the Knicks after All-Star Weekend.



Not that the above section should suggest that there is anything close to glee in Toronto just yet.

While the Raptors surely found some pleasure in prompting the Knicks to do a deal with them while the Knicks are also suing them, they were an unignorable 12-19 when the trade went down to rank as one of this season’s most disappointing first-half teams. Then they went out and lost in Detroit with a depleted roster Saturday night to become the first team beaten by the woebegone Pistons since Oct. 28.

Now the Raptors need a serious surge up the Eastern Conference standings to justify Ujiri’s approach after consistent word circulated last season that Anunoby would not be traded without Toronto getting back multiple first-round picks. The Raptors were no longer able to command that sort of haul with Anunoby months away from free agency and instead prioritized young players who can still grow (RJ Barrett is 23; Immanuel Quickley is 24) beside new Face of the Franchise Scottie Barnes.

That might prove to be the right strategy given the numerous underwhelming projections about the state of the 2024 NBA Draft that’s now less than six months away.

Yet it’s unequivocally show-us time in Toronto.


Saturday’s swap that sent Anunoby, Precious Achiuwa and Malachi Flynn to the Knicks for Barrett, Quickley and Detroit's 2024 second-round pick (which is expected to land at No. 31 in the June draft) has sparked two immediate questions leaguewide:

No. 1: Who will the Knicks target in their next trade after they successfully acquired the 3-and-D wing they've long coveted — Anunoby — without surrendering any of their eight available first-round picks or Evan Fournier’s very available trade-friendly contract? (New York has stockpiled four of its own first-rounders to trade and four firsts in upcoming drafts from Dallas, Detroit, Washington and Milwaukee.)
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Re: Stein: “Masai works on his own clock” 

Post#2 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:29 pm

What we got back was better than three late firsts.
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Post#3 » by Scase » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:29 pm

His clock is broken.
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Post#4 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:37 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:What we got back was better than three late firsts.



Ya I agree, Rather have young player/players that are ready to break out.. Most the Knicks picks are meh
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Post#5 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:41 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:What we got back was better than three late firsts.


People realize that we could have gotten Tyus Jones and Brooks with the picks right?

Not saying I didn't this trade but let's not poo poo previous offers lol
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Post#6 » by greekman » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:41 pm

2 possible cornerstones for a role player
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Post#7 » by Basketball_Jones » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:48 pm

greekman wrote:2 possible cornerstones for a role player


I honestly think RJ’s probably a lost cause but we’ll see. Players don’t just turn it around after 4.5 seasons but if he can just be league average efficiency that’s a nice pick up for us I think
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Post#8 » by Jstock12 » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:48 pm

Everyone should put more respeck on this man's name. The single most important individual in this franchise's history. Not Vince, not Kawhi, not Lowry.
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Post#9 » by Purple+Black » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:49 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:What we got back was better than three late firsts.


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Post#10 » by Raptors_128 » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:49 pm

Only deal they missed out on in my opinion was Hart + 7 (Sharp).
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Post#11 » by ItsDanger » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:50 pm

Really? Players are on their own clock also. And they've been making moves already. Get ahead of the game before loss occurs.
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Post#12 » by SFour » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:52 pm

Basketball_Jones wrote:
greekman wrote:2 possible cornerstones for a role player


I honestly think RJ’s probably a lost cause but we’ll see. Players don’t just turn it around after 4.5 seasons but if he can just be league average efficiency that’s a nice pick up for us I think


he's only a lost cause if you're expecting an allstar.....if you expect him to be a role player then I don't see why he would be a lost cause at 23 years old....he's not a 28 year old Wiggins.
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Post#13 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:54 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:What we got back was better than three late firsts.


People realize that we could have gotten Tyus Jones and Brooks with the picks right?

Not saying I didn't this trade but let's not poo poo previous offers lol

How do you figure that?
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Post#14 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:56 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:What we got back was better than three late firsts.


People realize that we could have gotten Tyus Jones and Brooks with the picks right?

Not saying I didn't this trade but let's not poo poo previous offers lol


Source? I highly doubt Memphis was offering all that.
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Post#15 » by Tha Cynic » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:00 pm

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The way Saturday's Anunoby deal with New York emerged without warning illustrated yet again that Raptors president Masai Ujiri moves according to his own clock. He has repeatedly found the gumption to tune out external voices demanding action as well as criticism — both of which have been rising in volume north of the border since VanVleet bolted for Houston in free agency without compensation in July — and move when he decides the Raptors are ready.

As it was put to me during the recent G League Showcase in Orlando: You haven't been paying attention if you're surprised Ujiri operates in this manner. I was reminded that Ujiri's patience, even when impatience around him is mounting, has been evident for nearly 15 years, going back to the Carmelo Anthony trade saga in Denver that consumed the first five months of the 2010-11 season until Ujiri finally dealt Anthony to the Knicks after All-Star Weekend.



Not that the above section should suggest that there is anything close to glee in Toronto just yet.

While the Raptors surely found some pleasure in prompting the Knicks to do a deal with them while the Knicks are also suing them, they were an unignorable 12-19 when the trade went down to rank as one of this season’s most disappointing first-half teams. Then they went out and lost in Detroit with a depleted roster Saturday night to become the first team beaten by the woebegone Pistons since Oct. 28.

Now the Raptors need a serious surge up the Eastern Conference standings to justify Ujiri’s approach after consistent word circulated last season that Anunoby would not be traded without Toronto getting back multiple first-round picks. The Raptors were no longer able to command that sort of haul with Anunoby months away from free agency and instead prioritized young players who can still grow (RJ Barrett is 23; Immanuel Quickley is 24) beside new Face of the Franchise Scottie Barnes.

That might prove to be the right strategy given the numerous underwhelming projections about the state of the 2024 NBA Draft that’s now less than six months away.

Yet it’s unequivocally show-us time in Toronto.


Saturday’s swap that sent Anunoby, Precious Achiuwa and Malachi Flynn to the Knicks for Barrett, Quickley and Detroit's 2024 second-round pick (which is expected to land at No. 31 in the June draft) has sparked two immediate questions leaguewide:

No. 1: Who will the Knicks target in their next trade after they successfully acquired the 3-and-D wing they've long coveted — Anunoby — without surrendering any of their eight available first-round picks or Evan Fournier’s very available trade-friendly contract? (New York has stockpiled four of its own first-rounders to trade and four firsts in upcoming drafts from Dallas, Detroit, Washington and Milwaukee.)


The Masai working on his own clock sparked questions about what the Knicks will do next? What an article :lol:
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Re: Stein: “Masai works on his own clock” 

Post#16 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:01 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
The way Saturday's Anunoby deal with New York emerged without warning illustrated yet again that Raptors president Masai Ujiri moves according to his own clock. He has repeatedly found the gumption to tune out external voices demanding action as well as criticism — both of which have been rising in volume north of the border since VanVleet bolted for Houston in free agency without compensation in July — and move when he decides the Raptors are ready.

As it was put to me during the recent G League Showcase in Orlando: You haven't been paying attention if you're surprised Ujiri operates in this manner. I was reminded that Ujiri's patience, even when impatience around him is mounting, has been evident for nearly 15 years, going back to the Carmelo Anthony trade saga in Denver that consumed the first five months of the 2010-11 season until Ujiri finally dealt Anthony to the Knicks after All-Star Weekend.



Not that the above section should suggest that there is anything close to glee in Toronto just yet.

While the Raptors surely found some pleasure in prompting the Knicks to do a deal with them while the Knicks are also suing them, they were an unignorable 12-19 when the trade went down to rank as one of this season’s most disappointing first-half teams. Then they went out and lost in Detroit with a depleted roster Saturday night to become the first team beaten by the woebegone Pistons since Oct. 28.

Now the Raptors need a serious surge up the Eastern Conference standings to justify Ujiri’s approach after consistent word circulated last season that Anunoby would not be traded without Toronto getting back multiple first-round picks. The Raptors were no longer able to command that sort of haul with Anunoby months away from free agency and instead prioritized young players who can still grow (RJ Barrett is 23; Immanuel Quickley is 24) beside new Face of the Franchise Scottie Barnes.

That might prove to be the right strategy given the numerous underwhelming projections about the state of the 2024 NBA Draft that’s now less than six months away.

Yet it’s unequivocally show-us time in Toronto.


Saturday’s swap that sent Anunoby, Precious Achiuwa and Malachi Flynn to the Knicks for Barrett, Quickley and Detroit's 2024 second-round pick (which is expected to land at No. 31 in the June draft) has sparked two immediate questions leaguewide:

No. 1: Who will the Knicks target in their next trade after they successfully acquired the 3-and-D wing they've long coveted — Anunoby — without surrendering any of their eight available first-round picks or Evan Fournier’s very available trade-friendly contract? (New York has stockpiled four of its own first-rounders to trade and four firsts in upcoming drafts from Dallas, Detroit, Washington and Milwaukee.)


The Masai working on his own clock sparked questions about what the Knicks will do next? What an article :lol:




No. 2: How much longer will Pascal Siakam remain a Raptor?

We'll address Siakam's situation in the next section. But first ...


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Post#17 » by TravisScott55 » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:02 pm

If he gets a solid return for Siakam he's completely vindicated
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Post#18 » by Basketball_Jones » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:06 pm

SFour wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:
greekman wrote:2 possible cornerstones for a role player


I honestly think RJ’s probably a lost cause but we’ll see. Players don’t just turn it around after 4.5 seasons but if he can just be league average efficiency that’s a nice pick up for us I think


he's only a lost cause if you're expecting an allstar.....if you expect him to be a role player then I don't see why he would be a lost cause at 23 years old....he's not a 28 year old Wiggins.


That’s what I’m saying, can he be league average? He’s way below for over 4 seasons now
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Post#19 » by Scase » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:09 pm

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I honestly think RJ’s probably a lost cause but we’ll see. Players don’t just turn it around after 4.5 seasons but if he can just be league average efficiency that’s a nice pick up for us I think


he's only a lost cause if you're expecting an allstar.....if you expect him to be a role player then I don't see why he would be a lost cause at 23 years old....he's not a 28 year old Wiggins.


That’s what I’m saying, can he be league average? He’s way below for over 4 seasons now

The worst part is, he's never even been close to league average. This year is the best year of his career and he's rocking a 53.6% TS%.
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Post#20 » by kalel123 » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:14 pm

I don't care whose clock he works on. He just needs to get it done. Hasn't done it since last trade deadline or maybe even before then. But definitely got boxed in at trade deadline with no way out. All the moves thereafter was so predictable.

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