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Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:02 am
by Purple+Black
I can’t lie, I also had my doubts about our FO at times but credit where credit is due — the decision to wait and continue evaluating in the face of the mounting pressure from media personnel and the fanbase was definitely the more difficult path to take.
With that said, if our FO made a rushed trade (let’s say last season or even in the summer) it may have been very premature, if not for any other reason then simply for the very explicit reality that Scottie Barnes is the cornerstone of our franchise and he was only in his 2nd season, if you don’t first evaluate his growth (into his third season) how do you effectively build a team that compliments him? For example, these trades could have looked very different if you made a decision based on Scottie being only a 28% 3pt shooter last season vs. becoming one of our best shooters this season.
Evaluating is not all bad — and our FO is imperfect like all other FOs but we are blessed to have a competent management that is deservedly one of the best in the league. We forget quickly but the days before Masai were horrendous and it can be so much worse than having a man up top who likes to work on his own timeline and is patient enough to make the right deals instead of making deals just for the sake of change.
We have limited information on what offers did or did not exist for earlier players but I have to say a good amount of my faith has been restored.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:19 am
by El Mas Chingon
While the trade looks great. It's only been two games.
The most critical move will be Siakam. Let's see how that plays out. A resolution that might not happen until the summer.
And let's see if they make the playoffs.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:20 am
by HumbleRen
This wasn’t patience, this was finally listening to every warning sign telling you that OG Anunoby/Siakam are going to walk if you let them hit the summer as UFA’s.
We got very fortunate that Quickley was also a flight risk due to the Knicks not being able to afford him in RFA.
Masai did a great job in getting this haul with the limited leverage that he had though but the job isn’t done yet. Siakam is still very much so a flight risk until we either extend him or trade him.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:25 am
by BillNyeBballGuy
They traded a top 10 pick and two seconds for Poeltl, a 1st for Thad and drafted several busts including Flynn who we just salary dumped......
The OG trade has been viewed by many unbiased fans as a fair trade of similar value. Nothing incredible the front office did there except for make the obvious trade and stop over valuing their assets. The haul for Siakam would have been significantly better had they moved him last season, or the season prior to that instead of as an expiring.
They still need to trade Gary Trent for some value, especially with RJ's bloated contract on the books. They also need to make a final decision on whether to trade or extend Siakam. If they do move Siakam then they need to go into complete tear down mode and move Poelt, Schroder and all the vets. Whether to trade or extend Siakam right now depends on the offers, but they need to decide very soon.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:38 am
by Raps in 4
This doesn't undo letting Fred walk and trading a top-6 protected FRP for Yak and another FRP for Thad. It also remains to be seen what kind of return we get for Pascal. We got a good package for OG. But is there another team that will bite on an expiring Siakam, or did the FO **** up by not trading him earlier?
The OG trade was good, but the FO has still horribly mismanaged the team these past few years.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:56 am
by microjacklin
LOL, I vote no, but I guess yes will get the most since the timing is after this new roster just winning 2 games continuous
the vote will be more precise after the season or atleast after 20-25 games
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:58 am
by ImaBeatDatAzz
I agree with the rest, doesn’t take away from the stupidity these past few years. Take care of the Siakam situation properly, and then we can say that our FO redeemed themselves
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 11:33 am
by mowcrowbar
We still haven't decided the fate of SIakam
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 11:41 am
by Hero_Panda
Yes Patience is more often the better choice rather than making a move now for the sake of.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 11:54 am
by AbC?
We have no idea what the offers they rejected were to compare to, so how do we know if patience paid off? It was a solid asset management trade, something we haven’t seen of late. Masai just made his 2nd good move in 5 years, let’s see if there’s more coming.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 12:01 pm
by Mattatron
Absolutely not.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 12:24 pm
by Indeed
Not sure why people failed to understand that we didn't trade a 1st for Young. We made a salary dump to get under the tax, and Young is more for salary match.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 12:42 pm
by Tripod
MU made a good trade. He has a list of poor ones since the championship. He needs to have a GREAT deadline this year to fix some issues he has caused.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 12:56 pm
by ArthurVandelay
Roster is a work in progress
Need a backup big
3&D wing
More shooting
Another creator
But it’s fun to watch more enjoyable basketball as the roster evolves
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 1:06 pm
by TorontoBarneys
I'm seeing a narrative trying to be spun that Masai was an evil genius all along and that we were wrong to doubt him at any point in time and I'm sorry, but I'm not having any of that lmao.
This was a good trade. It doesn't erase the string of bad decisions he's made prior to it.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 1:11 pm
by VancouverRaps
I like the trade too but I hope you understand the irony of this post after 2 games lol
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 1:23 pm
by Los_29
Yes, it was an excellent decision. Trading OG last year would’ve been disastrous. The FRPS were of low value and we would’ve just ended up trying to draft a guy like Quickley and we would likely be unsuccessful.
I think a lot of us learned an important lesson. We were all quite pessimistic because our team was horrible. With one trade that has all changed.
I’ve been critical of the Poeltl deal but if this team makes the playoffs and the Spurs get the 15th pick then all of a sudden that turns into a solid trade for us.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 1:29 pm
by OakleyDokely
Just make good deals.
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 1:29 pm
by BD006
It's been 2 games...
Re: Can we now acknowledge that being patient was the correct decision?
Posted: Thu Jan 4, 2024 1:29 pm
by MiamiSPX
Except that more and more it sounds like OG forced his hand because he wanted out. None of us know what course of action they would have taken if OG wanted to stay.
Nonetheless, it was a great trade.