Siakam and his team played Masai

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

Masai was willing to give demar (our franchise star) and a recent lotto pick at the time (Poeltl) for a disgruntled rental. That was a HUUGE risk, probably the biggest risk an executive has taken in the history of the NBA. As we know.. it ended up working out. Now fast forward to this trade here… that same executive takes a horrible deal and couldn’t get Pritchard to add ONE of their many prospects for Siakam who has no reason to turn them down? Pascal will stay with the Pacers and they’ll be contenders for years, while someone like Jarace Walker will rot behind siakam and Obi toppin in the rotation

Shame that the pacers just stole a former all nba for basically NOTHING, (depending on what we get for Bruce brown). But an even bigger shame on Siakam and his team for making sure they say and leak things so that his value drops and makes sure Masai gets no good offers. Petty! Now all of a sudden he’s committed to Indy? Wow

Even if Walker and mithurin is out of the picture, how do they not even add a Nembhard or a Jackson or a Smith.

3 late firsts, 2 nobodies, and a good role player who will get re-routed. How can we be content with this?

[dkb964]

Masai was willing to give demar (our franchise star) and a recent lotto pick at the time (Poeltl) for a disgruntled rental. That was a HUUGE risk, probably the biggest risk an executive has taken in the history of the NBA. As we know.. it ended up working out. Now fast forward to this trade here… that same executive takes a horrible deal and couldn’t get Pritchard to add ONE of their many prospects for Siakam who has no reason to turn them down? Pascal will stay with the Pacers and they’ll be contenders for years, while Jarace Walker will rot behind siakam and Obi toppin in the rotation

Shame that the pacers just stole a former all nba for basically NOTHING, (depending on what we get for Bruce brown). But an even bigger shame on Siakam and his team for making sure they say and leak things so that his value drops and makes sure Masai gets no good offers. That’s just petty and f’n childish.

Even if Walker and mithurin is out of the picture, how do they not even add a Nembhard or a Jackson or a Smith. How are people still defending Masai or thinking this trade was ok.

3 late firsts, 2 nobodies, and a good role player who will get re-routed. How can we be content with this?

The Tunder pick this year will be a late 1st. The Pacers are currently in the play-in tournament so who knows where that pick will land this year. The 2026 pick could be a lottery pick for all we know. It does stink that they could not get a better prospect than Lewis in the deal but they dodged a bullet by not having to give Siakam a max contract extension as well. Imagine paying 34-35 year old washed Siakam 60M a year.

[NotMyKawhi]

Kawhi was a top 5 player...


Compared to what bk got for Kyrie, Sixers got for harden, good deal

[Son Goku 25]

This was really smart and well played by the Pacers. Raps have obv done something similar before but now they have contracts they can move and package with a younger player or two to get another star. Similar to how we got Kawhi and then Gasol if they look like true contenders.

I guess you gotta go thru these things but the raps didn't have much leverage thanks to their own fault and Siakam and camp doing them dirty.

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

Kawhi was a top 5 player...


Compared to what bk got for Kyrie, Sixers got for harden, good deal

I’m just mad that siakam and his camp did us dirty, why tank ur value knowing fans won’t be happy because as we saw.. the return was disappointing. Ok you can be mad or upset with Masai and what not, but stay professional dude.. Kyrie and Harden are known to act like divas, siakam and his team joined em

Also you can’t say kawhi was a top 5 player at that specific moment, since he was injured and disgruntled. Did he play like a top 5 player with us though? No he played like a top 3 player with us lol. Was the best year of his career

[Wise80]

The deal as it stands wasn't that bad given the circumstances. However, you can't judge this deal based off of what pascal was worth at this present time.

You have to judge it based off of how it got to this point. The bad blood/falling out, why he wasn't traded last deadline, or why he wasn't traded in the off season.

He played the same game with OG's market. I liked that trade. But he clearly took the wrong approach with Pascal and lost that bet.

The trade isn't over yet though. I don't think he keeps all these picks. Brown could end up being a starter with this group and being the guy to do all the little things. We desperately need someone like that, who can also be a low usage guy. He's also anther asset.

He could dump these picks and brown at the deadline, but I have a feeling it'll be in the off-season.

One thing is for sure. They're in a position to be very flexible and it's given them more time to assess what they have lol.

It's a pipedream. But Bridges would slot in amazingly at the 2 spot with the team.

[Zeno]

This was actually really well played by Masai, at least in the end. Because he was obviously being squeezed by the Pacers who were trying to get both OG and Pascal. They removed OG from the Pacers equation and sent him to the Knicks and got back proven young nba players. Once OG was off the table, the Pacers were forced to offer what they did for Pascal or risk getting absolutely nothing to pair with Haliburton. In the end ignoring all the details leading up to this point(some that were pretty bad), we are set up very well to keep building and be pretty good again somewhat soon.

[ChillPill]

I think it was a similar situation to the Harden to Clippers trade. Pascal knew where he wanted to go, so he and his agent steered things in that direction, taking away leverage from the Raps FO. Indiana played it well. I'm not too mad, as I don't think Siakam owes the Raps anything, and I also wouldn't want to be paying Pascal the max until age 35.

[mdenny]

Siakam did us dirty eh?

Siakam was the 27th pick who worked his ass off and eventually brought us an nba championship along with kawhi, kyle, fred, surge, marc and norm. Born in Cameroon. Discovered by college scouts. Drafted by raps. His story speaks for itself.

You are a negative troll account on realgm raptors board. Big up yourself for all the accomplishments that brought you to this place in life. Hating on Pascal Siakam on the internet.

warned.

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

This was actually really well played by Masai, at least in the end. Because he was obviously being squeezed by the Pacers who were trying to get both OG and Pascal. They removed OG from the Pacers equation and sent him to the Knicks and got back proven young nba players. Once OG was off the table, the Pacers were forced to offer what they did for Pascal or risk getting absolutely nothing to pair with Haliburton. In the end ignoring all the details leading up to this point(some that were pretty bad), we are set up very well to keep building and be pretty good again somewhat soon.

So why didn’t we get a single one of their enticing young prospects?

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

Siakam did us dirty eh?

Siakam was the 27th pick who worked his ass off and eventually brought us an nba championship along with kawhi, kyle, fred, surge, marc and norm. Born in Cameroon. Discovered by college scouts. Drafted by raps. His story speaks for itself.

You are a negative troll account on realgm raptors board. Big up yourself for all the accomplishments that brought you to this place in life. Hating on Pascal Siakam on the internet.

I’m a troll because I’m upset that Siakam and his team were unprofessional? Ok bud

[Zeno]

This was actually really well played by Masai, at least in the end. Because he was obviously being squeezed by the Pacers who were trying to get both OG and Pascal. They removed OG from the Pacers equation and sent him to the Knicks and got back proven young nba players. Once OG was off the table, the Pacers were forced to offer what they did for Pascal or risk getting absolutely nothing to pair with Haliburton. In the end ignoring all the details leading up to this point(some that were pretty bad), we are set up very well to keep building and be pretty good again somewhat soon.

So why didn’t we get a single one of their enticing young prospects?

because we were in a bad position due to previous errors. But that doesn't mean the errors happened in the offseason either. I feel like the Pacers wouldn't have given us more than they did in the summer. Mistake was the offseason before last and the last deadline. From that point we were kind of screwed. But I think you judge every move at the time it is made and I unlike many on this board like to move forward not look back at mistakes unless it is to learn from them.

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

This was actually really well played by Masai, at least in the end. Because he was obviously being squeezed by the Pacers who were trying to get both OG and Pascal. They removed OG from the Pacers equation and sent him to the Knicks and got back proven young nba players. Once OG was off the table, the Pacers were forced to offer what they did for Pascal or risk getting absolutely nothing to pair with Haliburton. In the end ignoring all the details leading up to this point(some that were pretty bad), we are set up very well to keep building and be pretty good again somewhat soon.

So why didn’t we get a single one of their enticing young prospects?

because we were in a bad position due to previous errors. But that doesn't mean the errors happened in the offseason either. I feel like the Pacers wouldn't have given us more than they did in the summer. Mistake was the offseason before last and the last deadline. From that point we were kind of screwed. But I think you judge every move at the time it is made and I unlike many on this board like to move forward not look back at mistakes unless it is to learn from them.

Ok fair but my whole point with this thread is that siakam plays a part in why the return was bad, because he and his team wanted to be petty and unprofessional with their public comments, so that they tank his value. Teams didn’t want to give anything mainly because of the comments, not because he’s an expiring

[mdenny]

Siakam did us dirty eh?

Siakam was the 27th pick who worked his ass off and eventually brought us an nba championship along with kawhi, kyle, fred, surge, marc and norm. Born in Cameroon. Discovered by college scouts. Drafted by raps. His story speaks for itself.

You are a negative troll account on realgm raptors board. Big up yourself for all the accomplishments that brought you to this place in life. Hating on Pascal Siakam on the internet.

I’m a troll because I’m upset that Siakam and his team were unprofessional? Ok bud

Siakam wasn't unprofessional. Neither was the team. Your opinion on the matter has zero value. You're thinking it does....makes it hard to take you serious.

[Snowwy]

I don’t think Nembhard is who you think he is. Unless we are trying to build team Canada, we are better off with a back PG that can defend.

[StopitLeo]

Yeah, he really didn’t.

[KL78192020]

lol this is not Siakams fault. Masai didn’t want to pay him, that’s not on Siakim.

[Zeno]

So why didn’t we get a single one of their enticing young prospects?

because we were in a bad position due to previous errors. But that doesn't mean the errors happened in the offseason either. I feel like the Pacers wouldn't have given us more than they did in the summer. Mistake was the offseason before last and the last deadline. From that point we were kind of screwed. But I think you judge every move at the time it is made and I unlike many on this board like to move forward not look back at mistakes unless it is to learn from them.

Ok fair but my whole point with this thread is that siakam plays a part in why the return was bad, because he and his team wanted to be petty and unprofessional with their public comments, so that they tank his value. Teams didn’t want to give anything mainly because of the comments, not because he’s an expiring

I disagree with saying he was unprofessional. He was unbelievably professional. From his perspective, he was in a contract year, and the team he was on didn't want to pay him and were taking steps that were devaluing him and yet he stayed silent. He played in a system/on a roster that didn't really suit his game well and said nothing. If you are mad about him saying he wouldn't resign with other teams, imagine if there was a report he was done with the Raptors. Nah, Pascal did what was within his rights and was VERY professional.

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

Siakam did us dirty eh?

Siakam was the 27th pick who worked his ass off and eventually brought us an nba championship along with kawhi, kyle, fred, surge, marc and norm. Born in Cameroon. Discovered by college scouts. Drafted by raps. His story speaks for itself.

You are a negative troll account on realgm raptors board. Big up yourself for all the accomplishments that brought you to this place in life. Hating on Pascal Siakam on the internet.

I’m a troll because I’m upset that Siakam and his team were unprofessional? Ok bud

Siakam wasn't unprofessional. Neither was the team. Your opinion on the matter has zero value. You're thinking it does....makes it hard to take you serious.

Hmm so publicly coming out and basically telling teams that if they trade for Siakam then they better expect him to leave in the offseason , is normal for u?

[refshateRaps]

Siakam didn't play us.

Bobby and Masai did.