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What Masai is most likely to do with his IND/OKC/DET pick

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What Masai is most likely to do with his IND/OKC/DET pick

Consolidate all three pick into one lottery pick player
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16%
Trade one/multiple 2024 picks into one/ multiple 2025 picks
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Big Fish hunting by packaging one/multiple pick + roster players
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Trade one pick for immediate help
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Other scenario, please elaborate in the forum
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What Masai is most likely to do with his IND/OKC/DET pick 

Post#1 » by SpezNc » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:14 pm

What Masai is most likely to do with his IND/OKC/DET pick?

We already know from Masai that he is not going to draft three players.

Let’s assume we convey the pick

1- Consolidate all three pick into one lottery pick player

Example: He aim a player he likes that might go higher in the draft and he package one/multiples or whatever is require to draft higher

2- Trade one/multiple 2024 picks into one/ multiple 2025 picks

Example: He try to move some pick from 2024 to 2025. Might be hard because 2024 is weak draft but maybe the OKC pick can fetch multiples futures SRP. Or maybe OKC /Det pick can fetch a 2025 protected 1st.

3- Big Fish hunting by packaging one/multiple pick + roster players aka Big Splash

Package multiples picks, roster players and do a big splash if one big name is available and can complement BBQ

4- Trade one pick for immediate help AKA small splash

Trade a pick for immediate help. A small splash.

5- Other scenario, please elaborate in the forum

Example: Spread the value of the three picks into two picks
Maybe package OKC and DET pick to move higher

Example: Use everything at his disposal (future pick, roster player, current 2024 draft capital) to get a top 4 pick or even the very top pick
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Re: What Masai is most likely to do with his IND/OKC/DET pick 

Post#2 » by KL78192020 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:42 pm

If you can get a pick in the same range do it, if not use it. Trading it for immediate help hasn't been to great in getting guys like Thad/Yak.

Unless you can package the picks for a proven all star, then sure.
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Post#3 » by ItsDanger » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:44 pm

Keep all 3. Dump the trash at the bottom of this roster. But obviously depends on what trade options are available. We don't know.
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Post#4 » by billy_hoyle » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:46 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Keep all 3. Dump the trash at the bottom of this roster.

This.

I think 3 picks is manageable from a rookie integration perspective.
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Post#5 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:50 pm

Why should we trust Masai to do this?
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Post#6 » by Tha Cynic » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:53 pm

Your scouting can be the best in the whole world, but if the available players suck, it doesn't make sense to keep them. This draft is looking like one of those drafts.

They have most likely already looked at the different ranges they can fall in, the players available in them and decided whether to keep or trade them away.
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Post#7 » by Indeed » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:55 pm

1) Consolidate picks in a week draft may not be a good idea
2) Other teams may not be interested, but we can take a bad contract with swapping the pick. However, it doesn't mean we get a higher pick afterward (more risk for getting a future pick)
3) I don't see BBQ core is a playoff core, even with Siakam we are at best .500, so not seeing the value, we are tanking next year most likely.
4) Same as above, BBQ core + Siakam was at best .500, not seeing the value
5) Just draft them
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Post#8 » by Kinger95 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:59 pm

Use them to trade for lonzo so that him and gradey can form the deepest backcourt
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Post#9 » by ItsDanger » Sat Feb 3, 2024 9:00 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:Your scouting can be the best in the whole world, but if the available players suck, it doesn't make sense to keep them. This draft is looking like one of those drafts.

They have most likely already looked at the different ranges they can fall in, the players available in them and decided whether to keep or trade them away.

Its not their own perception of draft pick value that matters, its the other 29 teams also. In terms of teams trading up/down/future/etc and players sliding/rising.

If they decide now, that is conceding upside value in the picks. A mistake in their position.
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Re: What Masai is most likely to do with his IND/OKC/DET pick 

Post#10 » by Tha Cynic » Sat Feb 3, 2024 9:14 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:Your scouting can be the best in the whole world, but if the available players suck, it doesn't make sense to keep them. This draft is looking like one of those drafts.

They have most likely already looked at the different ranges they can fall in, the players available in them and decided whether to keep or trade them away.

Its not their own perception of draft pick value that matters, its the other 29 teams also. In terms of teams trading up/down/future/etc and players sliding/rising.

If they decide now, that is conceding upside value in the picks. A mistake in their position.


This is also true, but I do think there's a good reason why a small portion of teams hold a high amount of this year's draft picks. It is no secret teams think this a bad draft class.

It just takes one or two to think they can get something of value, but we have had as much detracting of a draft class as we have seen with this year's.
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Post#11 » by SpezNc » Sat Feb 3, 2024 9:20 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Why should we trust Masai to do this?


Why should we not?
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Post#12 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Sat Feb 3, 2024 9:20 pm

Bargnani was a decent #1 pick in the 2006 draft. The problem is he wouldn't go top five in just about any other draft.
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Post#13 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Sat Feb 3, 2024 9:22 pm

SpezNc wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Why should we trust Masai to do this?


Why should we not?

He chose to push the Poeltl pick into the future, right? That was him. It's his problem.
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Post#14 » by SpezNc » Sat Feb 3, 2024 9:25 pm

Indeed wrote:1) Consolidate picks in a week draft may not be a good idea
2) Other teams may not be interested, but we can take a bad contract with swapping the pick. However, it doesn't mean we get a higher pick afterward (more risk for getting a future pick)
3) I don't see BBQ core is a playoff core, even with Siakam we are at best .500, so not seeing the value, we are tanking next year most likely.
4) Same as above, BBQ core + Siakam was at best .500, not seeing the value
5) Just draft them


For 1) Masai wanted to trade up for Giannis in a low draft but was unable.
For 5) It’s Masai himself who said he was not going to draft them all. But I could see a scenario where he consolidate three pick into two picks. If it was up to me, I would draft the 3

I agree with 2-3-4
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Post#15 » by SpezNc » Sat Feb 3, 2024 9:28 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Why should we trust Masai to do this?


Why should we not?

He chose to push the Poeltl pick into the future, right? That was him. It's his problem.


I didn’t like the move at the time. Don’t like the move now.

But it’s nit a good enough reason for me to not trust Masai.

We barely draft in the past 5 years. I am curious to see what the organization can do finally with some draft capital to play with.
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Post#16 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Sat Feb 3, 2024 9:31 pm

SpezNc wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
Why should we not?

He chose to push the Poeltl pick into the future, right? That was him. It's his problem.


I didn’t like the move at the time. Don’t like the move now.

But it’s nit a good enough reason for me to not trust Masai.

We barely draft in the past 5 years. I am curious to see what the organization can do finally with some draft capital to play with.

Are you kidding? He's handcuffed us for the next....who knows.
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Post#17 » by Raptorland23 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 9:39 pm

If there was value the trade would already be done, the close you get to a deadline the more unlikely a trade happens

Truth is most these picks are worthless, this years draft isn’t great, past five it’s not even good.

Makes pascals trade even more glaring terrible
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Post#18 » by HangTime » Sat Feb 3, 2024 9:44 pm

What's more valuable

#28 pick this year?
or
2 Second rounders next year? Lets say they range from 40-50
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Post#19 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Sat Feb 3, 2024 9:52 pm

HangTime wrote:What's more valuable

#28 pick this year?
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2 Second rounders next year? Lets say they range from 40-50

The 28th, the problem's not in the middle of the draft.
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Post#20 » by SpezNc » Sat Feb 3, 2024 10:07 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:He chose to push the Poeltl pick into the future, right? That was him. It's his problem.


I didn’t like the move at the time. Don’t like the move now.

But it’s nit a good enough reason for me to not trust Masai.

We barely draft in the past 5 years. I am curious to see what the organization can do finally with some draft capital to play with.

Are you kidding? He's handcuffed us for the next....who knows.


No i am not kidding.
I am not evaluating an executive over one bad move
A GM will do good moves, bad moves

I can buy the argument that he has been underperforming since the championship and that maybe a change of front office could be welcome

There is a rational for that position

But focusing on the Poeltl trade, despite me not liking that move is not enough for me to hope for a change.

I still think Masai is an asset for this organization and i am willing to see what moves he can pull of in the next year before contemplating a change.

I understand other may feel differently

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