2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

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https://hoopshype.com/lists/aggregate-2024-nba-mock-draft-post-combine-intel-bronny-james-to-lakers/

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Are we considering drafting Bronny with #19? Lebronto!

Trade Brown, Ochai and Boucher for Sign and trade Lebron.

PG IQ - Bronny/JFL
SG Barrett - Dick - Bronny
SF Lebron - Barrett - Dick
PF Scottie - Lebron
C Poeltl - Olynyk - Chomche

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Jonathan Mogbo measured with a 7-foot-2 wingspan at the combine, had the fifth-fastest sprint time (3.02), and helped his stock in scrimmages.

As ESPN’s Jonathan Givony noted, Mogbo was a 5-foot-9, 125-pound combo guard entering high school with zero DI offers upon graduating before growing to a 6-foot-8, 225-pound forward.

Mogbo averaged a double-double at San Francisco, averaging 14.2 points and 10.1 rebounds with the ability to make plays for others (3.6 assists) and clog passing lanes (1.6 steals per game).

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A crappy draft got a little more crappier

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A crappy draft got a little more crappier

TORONTO RAPTORS
At this point of the draft, Collier’s upside is too much to pass up on for the Raptors, who aren’t quite ready to compete deep into the playoffs.

They have Edey going at 25. Thing is if Raps clearly want Poetl on the roster they just not draft a centre unless there is someone of interest at 31. I like Edey as a pick but Collier is a serious upside selection if he drops. I'd take him over Edey if that presented itself. Edey is a good swing though.

Hope the Ringer has it right. The draft has intriguing players. I see no Jimmer Fredettes or Adam Morrisons.

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Updated mock draft after the withdrawal deadline from Wasserman
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10122747-2024-nba-mock-draft-bronny-james-makes-the-cut-in-our-full-2-round-predictions&ved=2ahUKEwjqkqb4p7WGAxXwMDQIHSHoBuYQxfQBKAB6BAgJEAI&usg=AOvVaw0D08PZ2EyAhrEfz4KiqybC

Has the Raptors taking Edey and Klintman with 19 and 31 respectively.

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A crappy draft got a little more crappier

TORONTO RAPTORS
At this point of the draft, Collier’s upside is too much to pass up on for the Raptors, who aren’t quite ready to compete deep into the playoffs.

They have Edey going at 25. Thing is if Raps clearly want Poetl on the roster they just not draft a centre unless there is someone of interest at 31. I like Edey as a pick but Collier is a serious upside selection if he drops. I'd take him over Edey if that presented itself. Edey is a good swing though.

Hope the Ringer has it right. The draft has intriguing players. I see no Jimmer Fredettes or Adam Morrisons.

I disagree I think Collier's downside is too much to gamble on. He's going to produce and wow some people just like Dillingham will in the short term with some performances but long term neither is someone you want as a foundational piece of a team and these guys tend to weasel their ways to being high USG players no matter what.

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Multiple teams supposedly have t10 grades on Zach Edey so I find it very hard to believe he gets to 19. He brings almost everything to the table that the Miami Heat are weak at, I would probably think he goes 15 at the very latest even though my grade is a lot higher.

Miami is already a very slow paced team so Edey would fit like a glove and they could just play a style where they dictate the pace and wear you down with physicality and defense. He is honestly probably the single best fit for that team given what will likely be available for them, from a production standpoint.

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Mogbo seems like a Precious type prospect and that's a positive. A first glance, he seems to be undersized for the C position, but he's built very well and he has the long wingspan which should allow him to defend the position like Precious does. He's bouncy and versatile and he can extend his defense to the perimeter which is a big positive. His offense is basically limited to dunks, but he seems to have a better feel for the game compared to Precious. Mogbo posted 5 assists per 40 which is pretty great for a player at his position. His efficiency, his rebounding, his defense, his playmaking all seems to be pretty positive. Definitely worth a look at 31.

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Multiple teams supposedly have t10 grades on Zach Edey so I find it very hard to believe he gets to 19. He brings almost everything to the table that the Miami Heat are weak at, I would probably think he goes 15 at the very latest even though my grade is a lot higher.

Miami is already a very slow paced team so Edey would fit like a glove and they could just play a style where they dictate the pace and wear you down with physicality and defense. He is honestly probably the single best fit for that team given what will likely be available for them, from a production standpoint.

I could see him going #12 to OKC. Maybe they trade Edey with Kenrich Williams to Toronto for Jakob Poeltl.

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Mogbo seems like a Precious type prospect and that's a positive. A first glance, he seems to be undersized for the C position, but he's built very well and he has the long wingspan which should allow him to defend the position like Precious does. He's bouncy and versatile and he can extend his defense to the perimeter which is a big positive. His offense is basically limited to dunks, but he seems to have a better feel for the game compared to Precious. Mogbo posted 5 assists per 40 which is pretty great for a player at his position. His efficiency, his rebounding, his defense, his playmaking all seems to be pretty positive. Definitely worth a look at 31.

He grew up as a guard and then had a massive growth spurt thus why the ability and feel for a guy his size. I think he's a do a bit of everything minus the 3's. Would certainly give the Raptors a jolt on the court which his intensity. Something I feel gets addressed as we are lacking

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Updated mock draft after the withdrawal deadline from Wasserman
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10122747-2024-nba-mock-draft-bronny-james-makes-the-cut-in-our-full-2-round-predictions&ved=2ahUKEwjqkqb4p7WGAxXwMDQIHSHoBuYQxfQBKAB6BAgJEAI&usg=AOvVaw0D08PZ2EyAhrEfz4KiqybC

Has the Raptors taking Edey and Klintman with 19 and 31 respectively.

Good to see Carlton Carrington at #26 so still available at #19.

Sounds like a seamless transition.

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CC: I feel like my defense is so underrated. I can really guard, but it’s not really talked about. I’m not a flashy defender. I’m not going to make extreme plays, but if you need someone to stop a scorer, I’m the one to do that.

Sounds like he's a stay at home defender that puts effort in.

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2024 nba draft (working big board)

1. Sarr
2. Risacher
3. Topic
4. Clingan
5. Holland
6. Salaun
7. Dadiet
8. Sheppard
9. Castle
10. Williams
11. Holmes II
12. Smith
13. Edey
14. Carter
15. McCain
16. Simpson
17. Djurisic
18. Furphy
19. Dunn
20. Watkins (withdrew)
21. Chomche
22. Mogbo
23. Dante
24. Clifford (withdrew)
25. Beekman

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My overrated prospect of the draft is Castle.

He shoots poorly from 3 on low volume, which is already a killer for a guard. His FT rate is okay, but not elite. Really not sure how he scores the ball. For a supposed elite defender, his stock totals are like really low. Per 40, he averaged 2 stocks. For comparison purposes, all defensive guards Suggs averaged 3.1, Jrue 3.1 and Smart 4.2 in their draft years. I'm sure he will be a good defender, but being a legit difference maker defensively is still a big question mark especially when you consider that guards typically provide the least amount of impact on team defense.

For me, he should be in the Collier, McCain, Walter tier of guard.

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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5513010/2024/05/30/does-age-matter-in-the-nba-draft-plus-bronny-james-draft-status-and-the-nuggets-cba-problem/

Age has always been a tricky subject when it comes to the NBA Draft. Youth is seen as a sign of potential and growth. The players taken at the top of the draft tend to be among the youngest; their talents so visible at an early age that they could come out after just one year of college.

But the 2024 NBA Draft, already the funkiest in roughly a decade, could cause one more issue for NBA teams: What are they going to do about all those older players?




This year, teams may be presented with that question more than they’d like. Six players 22 and older seem to have a decent chance to go in the first 20 picks (they’re in the top 30 of The Athletic’s latest big board), though in a draft as murky as this one, it’s hard to be certain.

Tennessee wing Dalton Knecht might go in the top 10. Providence guard Devin Carter just tagged an impressive junior year with some strong testing at the draft combine. Purdue center Zach Edey is one of the most interesting players in the draft and projected to be a fringe lottery pick. Marquette point guard Tyler Kolek, Colorado forward Tristan da Silva and Creighton wing Baylor Scheierman are all projected first-round picks who could land higher than expected on draft night.

That will again bring an important question to the forefront as teams make their decisions: Does age matter in the draft?

Players who have been selected that high at 22 years or older have not, for the most part, gone on to productive NBA careers. There have been 30 players who have been at least 22 on the day of the draft selected over the last 15 years. Of those, roughly three have become reliable starter-level players (Buddy Hield, Cam Johnson and Kelly Olynyk). Taurean Prince has consistently been a rotation player over his career. Corey Kispert, Obi Toppin and Jaime Jaquez Jr. seem to be on their way to getting there. The rest is a mixed bag.

The 2024 draft class, however, comes with certain qualifiers that didn’t apply in years past. It’s older for a number of reasons. Some players were in college for the 2020-21 COVID season, which wreaked havoc on college basketball and slowed down development as schools had to work through health and safety restrictions and on-court time management. The NCAA granted an extra year of college eligibility because of that year.




Other players may have stayed in school longer because of the money they can make from NIL, which hadn’t even been a consideration until the summer of 2021. Coincidentally, the number of players who declared early has dropped in each draft since 2021.

This year’s draft will be an interesting case study. Does age still matter as much to teams when they make a pick? And does age impact a prospect’s success if external factors like extra eligibility and NIL are putting them into the NBA later in life?

Since the playoffs are still going, only the 27 teams that aren’t still playing have fully shifted to draft mode, but that hasn’t stopped some of the churn. One interesting note came this week from The Athletic’s Shams Charania. He reported that the Phoenix Suns are considering Bronny James with their No. 22 pick. If James does get drafted there — proper qualifiers added and implied here — that might just be one of the most unconventional first-round picks in recent memory.

No, not because it’s Bronny James. But because of his current standing approaching the draft. Say what you will about groupthink and media mock drafts and evaluations, but teams don’t stray too far from it in the first round.

Right now, Bronny James is the No. 57 prospect on Rookie Scale’s consensus NBA draft board. If he’s taken 22nd, that would mean the Suns took him 35 spots ahead of his consensus ranking.

That would be the biggest difference between draft slot and consensus ranking over the last five years. The Memphis Grizzlies took Santi Aldama 30th in 2021 when he was 54th on the consensus board and David Roddy 23rd in 2022 when he was 45th. The New York Knicks took Immanuel Quickley 25th in 2020, when he was No. 48 on the consensus board.

Even if James is picked 30th overall in the first round, he would still be the biggest outlier first-round pick since 2020 compared to the consensus board.

But that’s also as of now. There’s still about another month to go until the draft and it’s plausible that James can make a move up the public boards, and thus the consensus board, and make this point less pronounced.

[ArthurVandelay]

My overrated prospect of the draft is Castle.

He shoots poorly from 3 on low volume, which is already a killer for a guard. His FT rate is okay, but not elite. Really not sure how he scores the ball. For a supposed elite defender, his stock totals are like really low. Per 40, he averaged 2 stocks. For comparison purposes, all defensive guards Suggs averaged 3.1, Jrue 3.1 and Smart 4.2 in their draft years. I'm sure he will be a good defender, but being a legit difference maker defensively is still a big question mark especially when you consider that guards typically provide the least amount of impact on team defense.

For me, he should be in the Collier, McCain, Walter tier of guard.

I've been warm and cold on him all year. There are serious concerns but I believe there is some validity to the playing out of position for good of team at UCONN. Also, while his 3pt was weak this year, he did shoot 54% from 2pt and 75% from the line. He isn't a player I'd want to be drafted by Toronto tbh, but I think he has potential.

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My overrated prospect of the draft is Castle.

He shoots poorly from 3 on low volume, which is already a killer for a guard. His FT rate is okay, but not elite. Really not sure how he scores the ball. For a supposed elite defender, his stock totals are like really low. Per 40, he averaged 2 stocks. For comparison purposes, all defensive guards Suggs averaged 3.1, Jrue 3.1 and Smart 4.2 in their draft years. I'm sure he will be a good defender, but being a legit difference maker defensively is still a big question mark especially when you consider that guards typically provide the least amount of impact on team defense.

For me, he should be in the Collier, McCain, Walter tier of guard.

I've been warm and cold on him all year. There are serious concerns but I believe there is some validity to the playing out of position for good of team at UCONN. Also, while his 3pt was weak this year, he did shoot 54% from 2pt and 75% from the line. He isn't a player I'd want to be drafted by Toronto tbh, but I think he has potential.

ya, I think he can be a solid rotational guard, I just don't see the skills that should push him into the top 5-6 of this draft, even if the draft is weak at the top.