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OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:39 am
by ontnut
6:40, and the again at 8:30, talking about how he seen Christian Koloko kicked Wiseman's and...MOBLEY's?! ass.
Someone, find the vid evidence PLEASE.
Masai knew. Still wish we had Koloko, hope he's doing well.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 11:24 am
by Kobe Anunoby
We all have good games.
This show is a complete joke.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:10 pm
by will
I once scored on the top ranked player in a scrimmage.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:45 pm
by raptorforlife88
Koloko was pretty impactful defensively during that season with us. He had good instincts, and good athleticism. He would have at minimum been a solid 18 minute a game backup C who was great defensively. His offensive development would have informed his ceiling.
Really was just terrible luck.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:48 pm
by Duffman100
raptorforlife88 wrote:Koloko was pretty impactful defensively during that season with us. He had good instincts, and good athleticism. He would have at minimum been a solid 18 minute a game backup C who was great defensively. His offensive development would have informed his ceiling.
Really was just terrible luck.
really a shame, he'd slot into our current roster perfectly as a backup to Poeltl, giving us 48 minutes of good defense at the center position.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:47 pm
by Thaddy
Koloko was raw for a four year player. I could see Chomche being similarly productive, maybe mid way through his first year. I don't see a whole lot of difference between their offense, but the defense is slightly less polished.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:53 pm
by PhilBlackson
These dudes are the absolute worst to even try to listen to. Half the time they’re not even getting to the point or just yelling over each other. You can’t take a single thing they say serious especially not McCants.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 5:20 pm
by kalel123
The credibility of that show aside, I was really looking forward to seeing Koloko's development in last year's summer league. One of the young guys I thought would take a decent leap and was interested in seeing it in summer league. Then that devastating news of his injury, which was eventually revealed to be a blood clot issue...
It's really too bad.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 5:46 pm
by Psubs
Thaddy wrote:Koloko was raw for a four year player. I could see Chomche being similarly productive, maybe mid way through his first year. I don't see a whole lot of difference between their offense, but the defense is slightly less polished.
I thought Koloko was a junior when drafted.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 6:09 pm
by Jadoogar
ontnut wrote:6:40, and the again at 8:30, talking about how he seen Christian Koloko kicked Wiseman's and...MOBLEY's?! ass.
Someone, find the vid evidence PLEASE.
Masai knew. Still wish we had Koloko, hope he's doing well.
please don't listen to the Gilbert Arenas podcast.
Malachi Flynn scored 50 points. Jayson Tatum's season high was only 45. Flynn>Tatum amirite???
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 6:45 pm
by Thaddy
Psubs wrote:Thaddy wrote:Koloko was raw for a four year player. I could see Chomche being similarly productive, maybe mid way through his first year. I don't see a whole lot of difference between their offense, but the defense is slightly less polished.
I thought Koloko was a junior when drafted.
You're right, my mistake. Either way he's one of the rawest Juniors you can find.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 6:55 pm
by YogurtProducer
Thaddy wrote:Psubs wrote:Thaddy wrote:Koloko was raw for a four year player. I could see Chomche being similarly productive, maybe mid way through his first year. I don't see a whole lot of difference between their offense, but the defense is slightly less polished.
I thought Koloko was a junior when drafted.
You're right, my mistake. Either way he's one of the rawest Juniors you can find.
I don’t know man. He was good defensively and just seemed a step slow on offence (as many rookies do).
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 7:34 pm
by ontnut
Jadoogar wrote:ontnut wrote:6:40, and the again at 8:30, talking about how he seen Christian Koloko kicked Wiseman's and...MOBLEY's?! ass.
Someone, find the vid evidence PLEASE.
Masai knew. Still wish we had Koloko, hope he's doing well.
please don't listen to the Gilbert Arenas podcast.
Malachi Flynn scored 50 points. Jayson Tatum's season high was only 45. Flynn>Tatum amirite???
Oh I can hardly stand listening to the full pod, but I caught this snippet and decided to share, just to reminisce.
The points they try to make/defend on that pod are just mind numbingly dumb sometimes. And they just constantly yell over each other and repeat stuff over and over like a bunch of children. Painful.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:01 pm
by XTC
I really liked Koloko as a rookie TBH.
He was a fluid athlete, who blocked everything in sight, and he was mobile for a guy who measured in at 6-11 with a 7-5 wingspan. His toolkit was pretty good. He was already a good defender his rookie season.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:10 pm
by kalel123
XTC wrote:I really liked Koloko as a rookie TBH.
He was a fluid athlete, who blocked everything in sight, and he was mobile for a guy who measured in at 6-11 with a 7-5 wingspan. His toolkit was pretty good. He was already a good defender his rookie season.
Yep, only thing he really lacked that he needed significant improvement on was strength. But otherwise, I thought he could at least become a good role player or even a solid starter down the line.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:37 pm
by Thaddy
YogurtProducer wrote:Thaddy wrote:Psubs wrote:
I thought Koloko was a junior when drafted.
You're right, my mistake. Either way he's one of the rawest Juniors you can find.
I don’t know man. He was good defensively and just seemed a step slow on offence (as many rookies do).
The offense seemed extremely weak, he kinda had stone hands and couldn't finish. The defense was impactful but it was more about his wingspan and stature than skillful positioning. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the same from Chomche after 1 season.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Tue Jul 2, 2024 8:42 pm
by Loyal_Canuck
One of the hilarious narratives they try and forward is how they are so much smarter than NBA front offices and then they proceed to talk about dudes like Emoni Bates
I watch them dudes for comedy
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:41 am
by Indeed
Thaddy wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:Thaddy wrote:You're right, my mistake. Either way he's one of the rawest Juniors you can find.
I don’t know man. He was good defensively and just seemed a step slow on offence (as many rookies do).
The offense seemed extremely weak, he kinda had stone hands and couldn't finish. The defense was impactful but it was more about his wingspan and stature than skillful positioning. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the same from Chomche after 1 season.
Koloko showed better 3 point shot. He was lights out in draft combine, which is one big reason the board (including myself) is high on him.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Wed Jul 3, 2024 2:42 am
by Thaddy
Indeed wrote:Thaddy wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:I don’t know man. He was good defensively and just seemed a step slow on offence (as many rookies do).
The offense seemed extremely weak, he kinda had stone hands and couldn't finish. The defense was impactful but it was more about his wingspan and stature than skillful positioning. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the same from Chomche after 1 season.
Koloko showed better 3 point shot. He was lights out in draft combine, which is one big reason the board (including myself) is high on him.
Koloko was a lights out shooter at the combine? No way.
Re: OT: Kenyon says he saw Koloko > Wiseman + Mobley
Posted: Wed Jul 3, 2024 3:05 am
by Indeed
Thaddy wrote:Indeed wrote:Thaddy wrote:The offense seemed extremely weak, he kinda had stone hands and couldn't finish. The defense was impactful but it was more about his wingspan and stature than skillful positioning. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the same from Chomche after 1 season.
Koloko showed better 3 point shot. He was lights out in draft combine, which is one big reason the board (including myself) is high on him.
Koloko was a lights out shooter at the combine? No way.
https://preview.redd.it/t63vi9z8po791.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=39c603e1ceb9e45a8c2f0af050a544a163cf0635Ref:
https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/vk5hr7/christian_koloko_shot_1625_in_a_3_point_drill_at/