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Looks like Scottie finally coming back.

The blessing in disguise with all the injuries thus far is we got to see more of Ochai, Davion, Dick, RJ, Jakob all with increased usage.

Question now is what is the best starting 5. I'm honestly not that keen on Quickley, as the offense he brings may not be as important as the defense someone like Davion brings. My ideal combos:

PG - Davion
SG - Dick
SF - Barrett
PF - Barnes
C - Jakob

Challenge with this line-up is the 3PT is a bit shakey outside of Dick. Also, guys like Ochai I feel will be less effective without strong offensive facilitators

PG - Quickley
SG- Ochai
SF - Barrett
PF - Barnes
C - Jakob

Defensively this one might be a bit more balanced

PG - Davion
SG- Ochai
SF - RJ
PF - Barnes
C- Jakob

This might be our best defensive line-up, but it will be brick nation

PG - Barnes
SG - Dick
SF - Ochai
PF - Barrett
C - Jakob

This could be an interesting line-up where Barnes is the facilitator with RJ being secondary ball handler. Dick and Ochai both are decent outside shooters

PG - Quickley
SG - Dick
SF - Barrett
PF - Barnes
C - Jakob

This was the projected starting 5, but I feel in someways the backcourt defense will get torched.

the projected one

Defence is overrated

We should still be developing our core players. The best line up for us is likely the one with Ochai. The limited spacing will hurt but we can play a defense first transition game where everyone will look good.

Long term Dick will be a bench player or 6th man type. The defense is never going to be great because he can't magically get more athletic. That also impacts his finishing ability. Furthermore we have too much offense the starting line up defense sucks. RJ and IQ are bad on defense and get torched, we can't have another player that needs to be carried on that end.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Mogbo
Barrett / Brown
Agbaji / Dick
IQ / Mitchell

When everyone is healthy that is going to be the best line up we can play. Shead and Walter have been pretty bad at the NBA level if you look at their impact stats like on/off, onCourt, etc. They need the GLeague for further development.

I remember someone posted a video (under Agbaji?), and one more scenario with Barrett coming off the bench, and another with Mogbo starting (also said lack of space)

Thaddy wrote:We should still be developing our core players. The best line up for us is likely the one with Ochai. The limited spacing will hurt but we can play a defense first transition game where everyone will look good.

Long term Dick will be a bench player or 6th man type. The defense is never going to be great because he can't magically get more athletic. That also impacts his finishing ability. Furthermore we have too much offense the starting line up defense sucks. RJ and IQ are bad on defense and get torched, we can't have another player that needs to be carried on that end.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Mogbo
Barrett / Brown
Agbaji / Dick
IQ / Mitchell

When everyone is healthy that is going to be the best line up we can play. Shead and Walter have been pretty bad at the NBA level if you look at their impact stats like on/off, onCourt, etc. They need the GLeague for further development.

RJ and IQ aren't exactly Cal Ripken Jr. Dick thus far has been durable.


Pause. Geezus Christ.

Indeed wrote:I remember someone posted a video (under Agbaji?), and one more scenario with Barrett coming off the bench, and another with Mogbo starting (also said lack of space)

The lack of space issue would fall on IQ, Barnes, and Barrett. That's something they will need to eventually show and giving them that responsibility and holding them accountable is the only way they get better. Agbaji has been better from 3pt range but we want him to get to the level he was at in Kansas, so shooting high volumes.

Ideally I want RJ to keep up the 3pt rate he currently has at about 6 per game. Barnes needs to increase his volume so we can see what we actually have in terms of his shooting ability. I want Barnes to be launching 7-8 per game and attacking the basket more during clutch situations and change his shot diet in the playoffs. It would reduce injuries and keep his legs fresh for when the games actually matter. He badly needs to be a better shooter.

IQ is probably our best shooter and he's been pretty tenative with shooting a higher volume. He needs to create these shots off the dribble and extend the floor for Barnes and Barrett so they can apply pressure to the rim.

Thaddy wrote:

Indeed wrote:I remember someone posted a video (under Agbaji?), and one more scenario with Barrett coming off the bench, and another with Mogbo starting (also said lack of space)

The lack of space issue would fall on IQ, Barnes, and Barrett. That's something they will need to eventually show and giving them that responsibility and holding them accountable is the only way they get better. Agbaji has been better from 3pt range but we want him to get to the level he was at in Kansas, so shooting high volumes.

Ideally I want RJ to keep up the 3pt rate he currently has at about 6 per game. Barnes needs to increase his volume so we can see what we actually have in terms of his shooting ability. I want Barnes to be launching 7-8 per game and attacking the basket more during clutch situations and change his shot diet in the playoffs. It would reduce injuries and keep his legs fresh for when the games actually matter. He badly needs to be a better shooter.

IQ is probably our best shooter and he's been pretty tenative with shooting a higher volume. He needs to create these shots off the dribble and extend the floor for Barnes and Barrett so they can apply pressure to the rim.

I agree.
Furthermore, I feel Mogbo can develop a corner 3 by end of this year based on his free throw (as if he can go to 905 for a month), then we should have enough room to operate with 1 good shooter and 3 average shooters with Poeltl.

As for Agbaji, I have a higher hope for him on defense. He has some ball handling and quickness, I think he might able to add a mid-range game with his 3 being more consistent. Otherwise, his current scoring will only limit him to be the bench player, and perhaps 8th player on a contender (not getting a big contract after rookie contract).

They aren't paying IQ 35 million to backup Davion f'in Mitchell

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Boucher
Barrett / Brown
Agbaji / Dick
IQ / Mitchell

We legit could just run 2 "lines" if everyone was healthy and it has nice balance.

IQ/ Mitchell
Ochai/ Dick
RJ/ Brown
Barnes/ Boucher
Poeltl/ Olynyk

Walter/Battle get some G League run right now. Mogbo/Shead join them as soon as Olynyk/IQ are healthy.

Tripod wrote:Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Boucher
Barrett / Brown
Agbaji / Dick
IQ / Mitchell

We legit could just run 2 "lines" if everyone was healthy and it has nice balance.

I like Agbaji starting over Dick....he's a solid 3+D. With Dick there's more offense but the defense alongside IQ can be exploited.

IQ+Agbaji and Dick+Mitchell is a good balance between offense/defense

Not ideal, but Personally, I'd want to see a defensive lineup of
Bruce/Ochai/Mogbo/Scottie/Jakob

Scottie gets to be a roamer with 3 good perimeter defenders in front of him.

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Then on offence, Scottie mainly runs point. Just see how much spacing you can clear out with screens, and cuts galore.


You got great off-ball movement, passing,
Bruce, Ochai, and Scottie can work on their 3 point shooting.
Bruce, and Mogbo can test out thier Point Guard/forward roles.


Even Mogbo could get up one Or two three pointers.
Everyone can crash the glass on those if they need to.

Yak, Scottie, RJ, Dick and Quickley. Defense doesn't matter a lick in the regular season, and none of our defenders are special.

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Yak, Scottie, RJ, Dick and Quickley. Defense doesn't matter a lick in the regular season, and none of our defenders are special.

I dont know why this is hard to understand for some

look at the impact OG and Herb, Mikal are making as the premier 3+d players...

yawn

Thaddy wrote:We should still be developing our core players. The best line up for us is likely the one with Ochai. The limited spacing will hurt but we can play a defense first transition game where everyone will look good.

Long term Dick will be a bench player or 6th man type. The defense is never going to be great because he can't magically get more athletic. That also impacts his finishing ability. Furthermore we have too much offense the starting line up defense sucks. RJ and IQ are bad on defense and get torched, we can't have another player that needs to be carried on that end.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Mogbo
Barrett / Brown
Agbaji / Dick
IQ / Mitchell

When everyone is healthy that is going to be the best line up we can play. Shead and Walter have been pretty bad at the NBA level if you look at their impact stats like on/off, onCourt, etc. They need the GLeague for further development.

Where do you get this idea that Dick is long term not the starting SG?

Appostis wrote:

Thaddy wrote:We should still be developing our core players. The best line up for us is likely the one with Ochai. The limited spacing will hurt but we can play a defense first transition game where everyone will look good.

Long term Dick will be a bench player or 6th man type. The defense is never going to be great because he can't magically get more athletic. That also impacts his finishing ability. Furthermore we have too much offense the starting line up defense sucks. RJ and IQ are bad on defense and get torched, we can't have another player that needs to be carried on that end.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Mogbo
Barrett / Brown
Agbaji / Dick
IQ / Mitchell

When everyone is healthy that is going to be the best line up we can play. Shead and Walter have been pretty bad at the NBA level if you look at their impact stats like on/off, onCourt, etc. They need the GLeague for further development.

Where do you get this idea that Dick is long term not the starting SG?

I'm a fan of Dick but he's Trae Young level bad on defense. You can't develop athleticism and that's going to hold him back in his career. In the current state of our roster we have Barrett, Barnes, and IQ ahead of him. He isn't being utilized correctly as a fourth option.

Appostis wrote:

Thaddy wrote:We should still be developing our core players. The best line up for us is likely the one with Ochai. The limited spacing will hurt but we can play a defense first transition game where everyone will look good.

Long term Dick will be a bench player or 6th man type. The defense is never going to be great because he can't magically get more athletic. That also impacts his finishing ability. Furthermore we have too much offense the starting line up defense sucks. RJ and IQ are bad on defense and get torched, we can't have another player that needs to be carried on that end.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Mogbo
Barrett / Brown
Agbaji / Dick
IQ / Mitchell

When everyone is healthy that is going to be the best line up we can play. Shead and Walter have been pretty bad at the NBA level if you look at their impact stats like on/off, onCourt, etc. They need the GLeague for further development.

Where do you get this idea that Dick is long term not the starting SG?

His short wingspan makes it apparent he can't effectively close out on shooters too.

Thaddy wrote:

Appostis wrote:

Thaddy wrote:We should still be developing our core players. The best line up for us is likely the one with Ochai. The limited spacing will hurt but we can play a defense first transition game where everyone will look good.

Long term Dick will be a bench player or 6th man type. The defense is never going to be great because he can't magically get more athletic. That also impacts his finishing ability. Furthermore we have too much offense the starting line up defense sucks. RJ and IQ are bad on defense and get torched, we can't have another player that needs to be carried on that end.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Mogbo
Barrett / Brown
Agbaji / Dick
IQ / Mitchell

When everyone is healthy that is going to be the best line up we can play. Shead and Walter have been pretty bad at the NBA level if you look at their impact stats like on/off, onCourt, etc. They need the GLeague for further development.

Where do you get this idea that Dick is long term not the starting SG?

His short wingspan makes it apparent he can't effectively close out on shooters too.

The attention that dick is drawing of offense..

You're arguing over 2.5 inches of standing reach...

As a healthcare professional I think you really need to stop doing drugs. I'm very concerned.

Baiting.

Appostis wrote:

Thaddy wrote:

Appostis wrote:

Where do you get this idea that Dick is long term not the starting SG?

His short wingspan makes it apparent he can't effectively close out on shooters too.

The attention that dick is drawing of offense..

You're arguing over 2.5 inches of standing reach...

As a healthcare professional I think you really need to stop doing drugs. I'm very concerned.

Pretty obvious he doesn't have the tools to be a good defender at SF or SG He will need to work on many things to be average.

The other option is having a great offense. Currently he lacks the on ball skill, which we saw from the last few games against switch defense, where he could not get open.

Quick Dick on defense is sketch