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What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 5:25 pm
by Potential
This is just a fun question I randomly thought of this morning. What 2 former Raptors in their Raptor prime (not Hakeem) are you adding to lead or contribute to win a do or die game 7 in TD Garden?
For me it's 2019 Kawhi and 2016 Lowry
Re: What 2 Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 5:32 pm
by Gavin_TDThree
are we talking raptors in their prime our former raptors in their current form?
Prime is Kawhi and Gasol. Imagine Darko's movement offence with Gasol dropping those dimes
current: Norm & OG
Norm comes off the bench as a Gunner and OG does OG things
Re: What 2 Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 5:35 pm
by Potential
Gavin_TDThree wrote:are we talking raptors in their prime our former raptors in their current form?
Prime is Kawhi and Gasol. Imagine Darko's movement offence with Gasol dropping those dimes
current: Norm & OG
Norm comes off the bench as a Gunner and OG does OG things
In their Raptor prime
2020-2021 Norm was really good too
Re: What 2 Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 5:38 pm
by Shakril
I am assuming you mean current raptors: and sadly to say there is none that actually could help, not even OG who is the best ex-raptor playing right now.
historicly speaking: prime vince and prime bosh (kwahi is mister 2019, not more not less)
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 5:43 pm
by DelAbbot
Prime Hakeem
Prime Kawhi
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:16 pm
by Caped Crusader
Guys, it clearly says "in their Raptor prime" right in the OP...
Re: What 2 Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:34 pm
by bluerap23
Potential wrote:Gavin_TDThree wrote:are we talking raptors in their prime our former raptors in their current form?
Prime is Kawhi and Gasol. Imagine Darko's movement offence with Gasol dropping those dimes
current: Norm & OG
Norm comes off the bench as a Gunner and OG does OG things
In their Raptor prime
2020-2021 Norm was really good too
It's more interesting to say in their current condition. If it's Raptor prime it is Kawhi and Lowry.
If it is current skill and health then it is more debatable. I'd go with OG and Fred. Fred would need to agree to come off bench. I just want the best 3 + D players to surround.
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:51 pm
by Vampirate
Kawhi Leonard - 1st option
Vince Carter - 2nd option
Scottie Barnes - 3rd Option
RJ/Gradey Dick/Ochai 4th Option
Jakob Poetl - 5th Option
Good luck stopping that.
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:53 pm
by Vampirate
DelAbbot wrote:Prime Hakeem
Prime Kawhi
Raptor Prime, meaning their best days...as a Raptor.
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 8:05 pm
by Syd-TK3
I mean Kawhi and Lowry seems like the most obvious answer
If you limit it to like 1 allstar only then I'd probably swap lowry with Gasol
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 9:15 pm
by Kingsway_fan
Vampirate wrote:Kawhi Leonard - 1st option
Vince Carter - 2nd option
Scottie Barnes - 3rd Option
RJ/Gradey Dick/Ochai 4th Option
Jakob Poetl - 5th Option
Good luck stopping that.
Sounds about right... thsts a championship team. No other options come close. Two hof superstars.
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 9:23 pm
by YogurtProducer
Kingsway_fan wrote:Vampirate wrote:Kawhi Leonard - 1st option
Vince Carter - 2nd option
Scottie Barnes - 3rd Option
RJ/Gradey Dick/Ochai 4th Option
Jakob Poetl - 5th Option
Good luck stopping that.
Sounds about right... thsts a championship team. No other options come close. Two hof superstars.
Would rather take Lowry and Kawhi IMO.
Lowry/RJ/Kawhi/Barnes/Poeltl is just way more well rounded. Prime Lowry was 22/5/7 on 62.3TS% and was all-defence caliber.
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Sat Dec 7, 2024 2:01 am
by MessiahUjiri
YogurtProducer wrote:Kingsway_fan wrote:Vampirate wrote:Kawhi Leonard - 1st option
Vince Carter - 2nd option
Scottie Barnes - 3rd Option
RJ/Gradey Dick/Ochai 4th Option
Jakob Poetl - 5th Option
Good luck stopping that.
Sounds about right... thsts a championship team. No other options come close. Two hof superstars.
Would rather take Lowry and Kawhi IMO.
Lowry/RJ/Kawhi/Barnes/Poeltl is just way more well rounded. Prime Lowry was 22/5/7 on 62.3TS% and was all-defence caliber.
Scottie can run PG, along with Quickley. I think that makes Lowry less valuable here.
People are forgetting - Vince’s raptor peak was at a different tier compared to raptor Gasol/lowry.
It’s clearly Kawhi + Vince
Quickley / Vince / Kawhi / Scottie / Poeltl (starters)
Gradey / RJ / Brown / Olynyk (bench)
Ochai / Boucher (situational players)
I’m most interested in a Kawhi-Scottie defensive pairing, because Scottie is ideal as a roaming defender, and Kawhi as a man defender.
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Sat Dec 7, 2024 2:06 am
by mieshpal
Kingsway_fan wrote:Vampirate wrote:Kawhi Leonard - 1st option
Vince Carter - 2nd option
Scottie Barnes - 3rd Option
RJ/Gradey Dick/Ochai 4th Option
Jakob Poetl - 5th Option
Good luck stopping that.
Sounds about right... thsts a championship team. No other options come close. Two hof superstars.
Ya it's hard not to take Vince and Kawhi.
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Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Sat Dec 7, 2024 2:01 pm
by SurgeIblocka
Prime Kawhi and Prime Gasol and we get the chip
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Sat Dec 7, 2024 2:08 pm
by Basketball_Jones
Kawhi and T-Mac
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Sat Dec 7, 2024 2:12 pm
by planetmars
It's a game 7 right? Kawhi and Serge.
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:49 pm
by Jim Todd Jr.
2019 Kawhi and 13 game Bargnani
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Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Sat Dec 7, 2024 8:22 pm
by Clay Davis
DelAbbot wrote:Prime Hakeem
Prime Kawhi
Who would have more rizz on this team if you had to only choose one to add: Prime Dream the Hakeem or BoredMan Prime?
Re: What 2 former Raptors are you adding to this current team to win an ECF Game 7 in Boston?
Posted: Sat Dec 7, 2024 10:44 pm
by YogurtProducer
MessiahUjiri wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:Kingsway_fan wrote:
Sounds about right... thsts a championship team. No other options come close. Two hof superstars.
Would rather take Lowry and Kawhi IMO.
Lowry/RJ/Kawhi/Barnes/Poeltl is just way more well rounded. Prime Lowry was 22/5/7 on 62.3TS% and was all-defence caliber.
Scottie can run PG, along with Quickley. I think that makes Lowry less valuable here.
People are forgetting - Vince’s raptor peak was at a different tier compared to raptor Gasol/lowry.
It’s clearly Kawhi + Vince
Quickley / Vince / Kawhi / Scottie / Poeltl (starters)
Gradey / RJ / Brown / Olynyk (bench)
Ochai / Boucher (situational players)
I’m most interested in a Kawhi-Scottie defensive pairing, because Scottie is ideal as a roaming defender, and Kawhi as a man defender.
IQ/Barnes could run PG, but Lowry is immensely better at it. IQ we have about 30 game sample of him being a true PG, and Scottie is still not very good at that (good passer and vision? Yes. But he struggles running a team due to his inexperience).
Lowry/IQ
Agbaji/Dick
Kawhi/RJ
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/Olynyk
IMO is just a more more well rounded team than
IQ/Davion
VC/Agbaji
Kawhi/RJ
Barnes/Mogbo
Poeltl/Olynyk
The Lowry team has no holes defensively in the starting lineup (teams will attack IQ), and Davion is easily worse as 9th/10th man than Dick is (as you would not have enough mins for VC/Agbaji/Kawhi/RJ/Dick at the 2/3).
Prime Lowry was an incredible floor general, top notch defender, one of the leagues top 3 point shooters, etc. Is he better than VC in a vacuum? Absolutely not. But as a #2/#3 he is certainly a better fit (and better usage of the rest of our roster)