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Raptors' Recent Performance: Toronto is currently on an eight-game losing streak, with a season record of 7-23. Their most recent game was a 139-125 loss to the New York Knicks.

Grizzlies' Recent Performance: Memphis holds a 20-10 record but is coming off a 114-110 loss to the Los Angeles Clippers.

Offensive and Defensive Stats:

Raptors: Averaging 112.1 points per game (PPG) on 46.4% shooting; allowing 117.3 PPG to opponents.

Grizzlies: Leading the league with 122.7 PPG on 48.6% shooting; allowing 113 PPG.

Injury Reports:

Raptors: Immanuel Quickley is out; Bruce Brown and Jakob Poeltl are listed as questionable.

Grizzlies: Vince Williams Jr. is out; Marcus Smart and Jay Huff are questionable.

Betting Odds: The Grizzlies are favored by 12 points, with an over/under set at 237.5 points.

Historical Matchup: In their last 10 meetings, the Raptors have a 6-4 advantage over the Grizzlies.

GO TORONTO RAPTORS GO! WE GOT THIS! ! ! !

Want outstanding performances by all the rookies & Scottie & Dick & RJ!

Walter is going to be scouted let's see how he responds. I'm high on this kid. Best prospect we have as of now.

Thaddy wrote:Walter is going to be scouted let's see how he responds. I'm high on this kid. Best prospect we have as of now.

Love how Gradey has been cast aside by this board

Who will be guarding Edey?


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Poeltl is out.

Seems fitting to catch a beating on Boxing Day.

Grizz have been rolling lately so def expecting a beatdown in Memphis. Edey gonna be eating well tomorrow

Teal court

Gotta think Bruno plays today to bang against Edey and save others from having to do so.

Naismith Cup game

Looking at the next 2 games, we could be looking at 10 straight losses including 6 at home and 0-15 away record (okay say 1-14 but it was Dejoute's 1st game back and both Zion&Ingram were out)
- 23rd in defensive rating
- 22nd in offensive rating(I hear it is more "watchable" now whatever that means with the poor ratings these days...)

At some point, Canadian media has step up and start asking the tough questions.

Grizz are 16-6 in their last 22 and all of those losses came to teams above .500. All of their wins against sub .500 teams were by double digits except for one.

They lead the league with 9 guys averaging over 20 MPG, and none averaging over 30. This team is deep. I just don't see how we can win this one.

ash_k wrote:Looking at the next 2 games, we could be looking at 10 straight losses including 6 at home and 0-15 away record (okay say 1-14 but it was Dejoute's 1st game back and both Zion&Ingram were out)
- 23rd in defensive rating
- 22nd in offensive rating(I hear it is more "watchable" now whatever that means with the poor ratings these days...)

At some point, Canadian media has step up and start asking the tough questions.

What are the tough questions? We're tanking and / or injured. It's pretty straight forward.

Duffman100 wrote:

ash_k wrote:Looking at the next 2 games, we could be looking at 10 straight losses including 6 at home and 0-15 away record (okay say 1-14 but it was Dejoute's 1st game back and both Zion&Ingram were out)
- 23rd in defensive rating
- 22nd in offensive rating(I hear it is more "watchable" now whatever that means with the poor ratings these days...)

At some point, Canadian media has step up and start asking the tough questions.

What are the tough questions? We're tanking and / or injured. It's pretty straight forward.

Perhaps “where is our toonie value menu”?

Duffman100 wrote:

ash_k wrote:Looking at the next 2 games, we could be looking at 10 straight losses including 6 at home and 0-15 away record (okay say 1-14 but it was Dejoute's 1st game back and both Zion&Ingram were out)
- 23rd in defensive rating
- 22nd in offensive rating(I hear it is more "watchable" now whatever that means with the poor ratings these days...)

At some point, Canadian media has step up and start asking the tough questions.

What are the tough questions? We're tanking and / or injured. It's pretty straight forward.

As stated in another thread

Any head coach, on his 2nd season, in any of the Major pro league (outside of Canada), on a 8-game losing streak, including 5 straight losses at home and with a 0-14away record is looking at getting fired at any moment.

FO must have emailed Grange to cool off any negative article, after the one from last month.

Again, "Tanking" only equals what we did at the end of last season; certainly not at game 30 of a season while making your Franchise player play on a back-2-back on a sore ankle.

But if it makes you feel better, you can keep pretending that proven competitors are all in it thinking "adding Harper, of yeah now we can win"

ash_k wrote:

Duffman100 wrote:

ash_k wrote:Looking at the next 2 games, we could be looking at 10 straight losses including 6 at home and 0-15 away record (okay say 1-14 but it was Dejoute's 1st game back and both Zion&Ingram were out)
- 23rd in defensive rating
- 22nd in offensive rating(I hear it is more "watchable" now whatever that means with the poor ratings these days...)

At some point, Canadian media has step up and start asking the tough questions.

What are the tough questions? We're tanking and / or injured. It's pretty straight forward.

As stated in another thread

Any head coach, on his 2nd season, in any of the Major pro league (outside of Canada), on a 8-game losing streak, including 5 straight losses at home and with a 0-14away record is looking at getting fired at any moment.

FO must have emailed Grange to cool off any negative article, after the one from last month.

Again, "Tanking" only equals what we did at the end of last season; certainly not at game 30 of a season while making your Franchise player play on a back-2-back on a sore ankle.

But if it makes you feel better, you can keep pretending that proven competitors are all in it thinking "adding Harper, of yeah now we can win"

Darko is playing 2nd rounders and gleague guys heavy minutes, due to injuries. We're competitive in most games. Firing him right now makes little to no sense and removes stability in the locker room.

I'm all up for reevaluating him in the offseason.

And our "competitors" aren't trying to lose. Not having the right guys in the lineup is doing that for you.

What is your bigger point? That despite injuries and guys sitting out, our record should be better than it is?

When can we start rooting for the tank?

There should be a cutoff

Naysorn wrote:When can we start rooting for the tank?

There should be a cutoff

Mods are actively discussing

Poeltl and surprise, Bruce Brown are out.

I'm at the stage where I think Brown deserves to get booed by our fanbase unless we are told why it's taken him this long to get out there. Masai's big prize from the Siakam trade has been an utter disaster.

Duffman100 wrote:

ash_k wrote:

Duffman100 wrote:
What are the tough questions? We're tanking and / or injured. It's pretty straight forward.

As stated in another thread

Any head coach, on his 2nd season, in any of the Major pro league (outside of Canada), on a 8-game losing streak, including 5 straight losses at home and with a 0-14away record is looking at getting fired at any moment.

FO must have emailed Grange to cool off any negative article, after the one from last month.

Again, "Tanking" only equals what we did at the end of last season; certainly not at game 30 of a season while making your Franchise player play on a back-2-back on a sore ankle.

But if it makes you feel better, you can keep pretending that proven competitors are all in it thinking "adding Harper, of yeah now we can win"

Darko is playing 2nd rounders and gleague guys heavy minutes, due to injuries. We're competitive in most games. Firing him right now makes little to no sense and removes stability in the locker room.

I'm all up for reevaluating him in the offseason.

And our "competitors" aren't trying to lose. Not having the right guys in the lineup is doing that for you.

What is your bigger point? That despite injuries and guys sitting out, our record should be better than it is?

Any winning with the injuries we've had, and the consequent use of 4 rookies as major parts of the rotation is a bonus. Anyone suggesting the coach needs to go as a result is being seriously disingenuous. The main goal was always going to be development this year, and we've seen excellent progress with the aforementioned rookies, as well as Dick and Agbaji, Barrett, hell, even Poeltl. I'm not a fan of tanking, but when circumstances permit, as they do this year, while still allowing solid player development, by all means we should take advantage. If things turn around later in the year when everyone is healthy, then we can enjoy a few more wins.