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[Thaddy]

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We got Brown, Poeltl, and RJ. I think we could get 2 first rounders and a swap for RJ. They would be late picks but this would cement us as a tanking team and likely also lead to another Poeltl trade.

Barebones rosters without Poeltl and RJ and their returns:

Olynyk / Fernando
Barnes / Mogbo
Agbaji / Battle
Dick / Walter
IQ / Mitchell / Shead

Could we potentially bring back Koloko?

[mademan]

If we could get 2 1sts for RJ, we would jump on it. Dont think he's rehabbed his value that much though

If the Lakers are willing to send the 2029 unprotected 1st for Poeltl, we gotta think about it. It's nice having a C, but it's clear we are a young team and paying Poeltl's next contract isnt something we should be considering.

[Psubs]

If we could get 2 1sts for RJ, we would jump on it. Dont think he's rehabbed his value that much though

If the Lakers are willing to send the 2029 unprotected 1st for Poeltl, we gotta think about it. It's nice having a C, but it's clear we are a young team and paying Poeltl's next contract isnt something we should be considering.

Gotta let RJ cook and get to be an allstar then trade him in the summer at the draft when the other team knows that the 2025 1st pick is in the 20's, plus a 2027 1st pick (since I don't think any team would trade a 2026 1st pick). Draft Tomislav Ivisic with that one and Zvonimir with the Portland 2nd pick. Instant Twin Chemistry.

[DutchCanuck]

About 20 teams I'd rather sell to then what the Lakers have to offer.

[C_Money]

Why the hell would we trade RJ?

[Raptors Realtor]

I don't know why some are suggesting 24 year old RJ would be shopped right now, unless it's for a young legit SF. He definitely won't be dealt for a mid-late 1st, that's crazy talk.

[Psubs]

Why the hell would we trade RJ?

In the summer since we have so many guards and he's the next generation Demar Derozan. Can't be a contender with Dick and RJ both starting.


What would make sense for LAL would be

Lavine, Vucevic and Torey Craig
For
DLo, Vanderbilt, Gabe Vincent, Maxwell Lewis and 2027 1st pick.

PG Reaves - Lebron
SG Lavine - Knecht
SF Lebron - Lewis
PF AD - Hachiura
C Vucevic - AD

[Tor_Raps]

Why the hell would we trade RJ?

In the summer since we have so many guards and he's the next generation Demar Derozan. Can't be a contender with Dick and RJ both starting.

Dick is nowhere close to RJ. You don't trade RJ because you have a 1 dimensional player who can't even do that dimension well. That's sure ticket to being a joke for multiple years. You make those trades once the player has actually shown he's ready to take over...not projecting aimlessly.

[mademan]

Why the hell would we trade RJ?

In the summer since we have so many guards and he's the next generation Demar Derozan. Can't be a contender with Dick and RJ both starting.

Dick is nowhere close to RJ. You don't trade RJ because you have a 1 dimensional player who can't even do that dimension well. That's sure ticket to being a joke for multiple years. You make those trades once the player has actually shown he's ready to take over...not projecting aimlessly.

RJ has yet to show he's a winning player either. Nobody besides Scottie is above being traded on this team, and if youre able to get 2 1sts and expirings for RJ, have only 2 big contracts on the team in Scottie/IQ, lots of 1st rounders and max cap space...thats a lot to work with when you have an FO that has been able to make magic with a lot less

All that said, its an unrealistic deal cause RJ was seen as a bad contract not 1 season ago and i doubt he's increased his value that much in this little time

[Tor_Raps]

In the summer since we have so many guards and he's the next generation Demar Derozan. Can't be a contender with Dick and RJ both starting.

Dick is nowhere close to RJ. You don't trade RJ because you have a 1 dimensional player who can't even do that dimension well. That's sure ticket to being a joke for multiple years. You make those trades once the player has actually shown he's ready to take over...not projecting aimlessly.

RJ has yet to show he's a winning player either. Nobody besides Scottie is above being traded on this team, and if youre able to get 2 1sts and expirings for RJ, have only 2 big contracts on the team in Scottie/IQ, lots of 1st rounders and max cap space...thats a lot to work with when you have an FO that has been able to make magic with a lot less

All that said, its an unrealistic deal cause RJ was seen as a bad contract not 1 season ago and i doubt he's increased his value that much in this little time

This front office could have had all the cap space in the world this off-season but chose to give that away for Olynyk and Bruce.

RJ is only 24 years old and has been a big part of a team that's gone to the 2nd round. That's more than what the rest of the roster we plan to keep around players has accomplished.

Trading RJ right now would be extremely stupid. It's like if we traded Demar before we went through the best winning stretch this franchise has ever had. Sure they both aren't top 10 caliber players in the NBA but they're still damn good.

[Psubs]

In the summer since we have so many guards and he's the next generation Demar Derozan. Can't be a contender with Dick and RJ both starting.

Dick is nowhere close to RJ. You don't trade RJ because you have a 1 dimensional player who can't even do that dimension well. That's sure ticket to being a joke for multiple years. You make those trades once the player has actually shown he's ready to take over...not projecting aimlessly.

RJ has yet to show he's a winning player either. Nobody besides Scottie is above being traded on this team, and if youre able to get 2 1sts and expirings for RJ, have only 2 big contracts on the team in Scottie/IQ, lots of 1st rounders and max cap space...thats a lot to work with when you have an FO that has been able to make magic with a lot less

All that said, its an unrealistic deal cause RJ was seen as a bad contract not 1 season ago and i doubt he's increased his value that much in this little time

He's probably worth a 1st pick in the teens but not worth moving. Did Dejounte make the allstar team or an all-defense team and command three 1st picks? If RJ gets to allstar status he'd probably be worth two 1st picks.

[Psubs]

Dick is nowhere close to RJ. You don't trade RJ because you have a 1 dimensional player who can't even do that dimension well. That's sure ticket to being a joke for multiple years. You make those trades once the player has actually shown he's ready to take over...not projecting aimlessly.

RJ has yet to show he's a winning player either. Nobody besides Scottie is above being traded on this team, and if youre able to get 2 1sts and expirings for RJ, have only 2 big contracts on the team in Scottie/IQ, lots of 1st rounders and max cap space...thats a lot to work with when you have an FO that has been able to make magic with a lot less

All that said, its an unrealistic deal cause RJ was seen as a bad contract not 1 season ago and i doubt he's increased his value that much in this little time

This front office could have had all the cap space in the world this off-season but chose to give that away for Olynyk and Bruce.

RJ is only 24 years old and has been a big part of a team that's gone to the 2nd round. That's more than what the rest of the roster we plan to keep around players has accomplished.

Trading RJ right now would be extremely stupid. It's like if we traded Demar before we went through the best winning stretch this franchise has ever had. Sure they both aren't top 10 caliber players in the NBA but they're still damn good.

They can still take on a player (and be under the tax) at the deadline like Kira Lewis ($5 million) salary dump for a late 1st pick.

Oh maybe would it be closer to $6 million if they cut Bruno Fernando before Jan 10?


Sacramento doesn't really want to pay Fox max money, so maybe they would also want to get under the tax.

Olynyk for 2027 2nd pick
For
Huerter, cash and 2027 1st pick

[AbC?]

Masai: "Sorry but we're buyers too. What can we get for our 1st rounder?"

[Tor_Raps]

RJ has yet to show he's a winning player either. Nobody besides Scottie is above being traded on this team, and if youre able to get 2 1sts and expirings for RJ, have only 2 big contracts on the team in Scottie/IQ, lots of 1st rounders and max cap space...thats a lot to work with when you have an FO that has been able to make magic with a lot less

All that said, its an unrealistic deal cause RJ was seen as a bad contract not 1 season ago and i doubt he's increased his value that much in this little time

This front office could have had all the cap space in the world this off-season but chose to give that away for Olynyk and Bruce.

RJ is only 24 years old and has been a big part of a team that's gone to the 2nd round. That's more than what the rest of the roster we plan to keep around players has accomplished.

Trading RJ right now would be extremely stupid. It's like if we traded Demar before we went through the best winning stretch this franchise has ever had. Sure they both aren't top 10 caliber players in the NBA but they're still damn good.

They can still take on a player (and be under the tax) at the deadline like Kira Lewis ($5 million) salary dump for a late 1st pick.

Oh maybe would it be closer to $6 million if they cut Bruno Fernando before Jan 10?

Lol point was that this front office has done nothing with any sort of cap space during their entire tenure... I'm not trading one of our best players who's only 24 and still getting better because we got a 1 dimensional player who can't even do his only strength efficiently yet lol.

The day anyone is outplaying RJ and we need to make a move will be clearly known to all. At that point we should be a really good team, which were VERY far from lol.

[djsunyc]

in 14 games last season, iq + rj + scottie + yak posted a +10.8 net rating.

to put it into context, the celtics 4 man lineup of jrue + jaylen + white + tatum currently posts an +11.9

my guess is that we aren't trading any one of those 4 until we get a large amount of data on them together.

[bobbyp3588]

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We got Brown, Poeltl, and RJ. I think we could get 2 first rounders and a swap for RJ. They would be late picks but this would cement us as a tanking team and likely also lead to another Poeltl trade.

Barebones rosters without Poeltl and RJ and their returns:

Olynyk / Fernando
Barnes / Mogbo
Agbaji / Battle
Dick / Walter
IQ / Mitchell / Shead

Could we potentially bring back Koloko?

I’ll start sounding like a broken record eventually, but RJ will be a Raptor for life.

We’re not trading our 23yo homegrown bucket getter. Even if he wasn’t averaging 23/6/6 and likely to continue to improve on those numbers, he’s just not going anywhere. Ever.

Peeps need to stop wasting their time and mine (ours) with trade ideas that involve RJ. They’re moot from the get go.

[MiamiSPX]

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We got Brown, Poeltl, and RJ. I think we could get 2 first rounders and a swap for RJ. They would be late picks but this would cement us as a tanking team and likely also lead to another Poeltl trade.

Barebones rosters without Poeltl and RJ and their returns:

Olynyk / Fernando
Barnes / Mogbo
Agbaji / Battle
Dick / Walter
IQ / Mitchell / Shead

Could we potentially bring back Koloko?

I’ll start sounding like a broken record eventually, but RJ will be a Raptor for life.

We’re not trading our 23yo homegrown bucket getter. Even if he wasn’t averaging 23/6/6 and likely to continue to improve on those numbers, he’s just not going anywhere. Ever.

Peeps need to stop wasting their time and mine (ours) with trade ideas that involve RJ. They’re moot from the get go.

I agree quite strongly that he is not going anywhere for the foreseeable future. However, I wouldn't say he's a Raptor for life. Keep in mind that Masai is likely gone after this contract, so the incoming President and GM combo may not care for RJ and/or have a relationship with his father.

EDIT - As for the original topic, I want nothing the Lakers can offer.

[Brinbe]

They could use a Davion, Bruce and a Yak. But they prob don't want to use their FRPs and it'd just be contract dumps like Dlo who we'd need to flip ourselves to make it make sense unless we're getting draft compensation. Otherwise, he's just an expiring and he's not exactly someone I'd want on this team longterm.

Their prospects like JHS and Maxwell are trash tier.

Rui would give us a big body wing/forward but he doesn't move the needle so what's the point from our POV unless there are firsts involved.

[Clutch0z24]

Saying we are sellers basically means we are open for business and no one is really safe if the return is valuable.....I could actually see Yak/Brown/Boucher all being moved....Hopefully a good first rounder and prospect in return.....

[Raptorfan2012]

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We got Brown, Poeltl, and RJ. I think we could get 2 first rounders and a swap for RJ. They would be late picks but this would cement us as a tanking team and likely also lead to another Poeltl trade.

Barebones rosters without Poeltl and RJ and their returns:

Olynyk / Fernando
Barnes / Mogbo
Agbaji / Battle
Dick / Walter
IQ / Mitchell / Shead

Could we potentially bring back Koloko?

I’ll start sounding like a broken record eventually, but RJ will be a Raptor for life.

We’re not trading our 23yo homegrown bucket getter. Even if he wasn’t averaging 23/6/6 and likely to continue to improve on those numbers, he’s just not going anywhere. Ever.

Peeps need to stop wasting their time and mine (ours) with trade ideas that involve RJ. They’re moot from the get go.

Seriously. RJ is not going to be thrown out for first round picks unless they are like legit top tier picks for franchise changing prospects; not for some late first rounders. We would have been drooling for an RJ during his draft year. As for the Demar comparisons, we don’t even have that tier of player on this team aside from Barnes. I would love to see RJ become a multiple all-star first.