[Lewenberg] After giving up a franchise-record 155 [..], Darko put his team through an extended practice

Thaddy · Post #1 » by **Thaddy** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:06 pm

How about benching the worst defenders like RJ, Dick, and Olynyk. Just play the young guys who will play hard. Jakobe is a great example, he's been fouling hard (but safe), diving for loose balls, and he is bringing the defense to the ball handler instead of being reactive.

Darko isn't going to be the coach we will be contending with. His X's and O's are the worst in the NBA. I could see him losing the locker room by the end of the season. It looks like Barnes is calling the shots instead of the coach.

WaltFrazier · Post #2 » by **WaltFrazier** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:10 pm

I don't know if this is meaningful info but Lewenberg is definitely posting as if it is, without explicitly commenting

Thaddy · Post #3 » by **Thaddy** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:11 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:I don't know if this is meaningful info but Lewenberg is definitely posting as if it is, without explicitly commenting

We can't blame injuries, although it's a large factor. We had no bigs against Memphis and nearly half of the roster was out. But it was an effort problem. If you're injured sit out, otherwise give a 120%

ATLTimekeeper · Post #4 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:22 pm

Darko benches Gradey and RJ consistently when they get backcut or fail to run back. I think Kelly is just on a conditioning stint.

The only guys that he can play more to improve the defense are Mogbo and Mitchell, and both tank the offense.

Naysorn · Post #5 » by **Naysorn** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:28 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:Darko benches Gradey and RJ consistently when they get backcut or fail to run back. I think Kelly is just on a conditioning stint.

The only guys that he can play more to improve the defense are Mogbo and Mitchell, and both tank the offense.

aka we have no two-way players so pick your poison

team needs talent

Snappycoocoo · Post #6 » by **Snappycoocoo** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:30 pm

We talking about practise man?

ash_k · Post #7 » by **ash_k** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:33 pm

Good to see, signs that the pressure is starting to rise on him and the coaching staff... This is the NBA, in a 2nd season, no coach can lose 10 games in a row with an expansion-team -like Road record and expect job security.

ATL got the number one pick off winning 36 games not 12, with their franchise player missing about 30 games

That Lewenberg fella and others need to be a little more courageous and question Darko like any US media would do.

His former boss which means he should know most of his plays just scored Franchise-record 155 on him.

SFour · Post #8 » by **SFour** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:33 pm

It's a known fact by now that the team sucks when they don't have a good center....not play-in suck, not bottom 10 suck, but bottom 5 suck. That's with or without Darko, the coach really doesn't matter.

TimeForChange · Post #9 » by **TimeForChange** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:40 pm

It's too little too late for Darko. He's a below average head coach. He's just here to get some high picks for the next two seasons.

He will stick around the NBA as an assistant, but he is way over his head right now.

Tor_Raps · Post #10 » by **Tor_Raps** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:40 pm

How about Masai find a way to get this team an adequate backup big man. Most teams have better 3rd string Centers than our backup... it's really not hard to find.

Poeltl is good but no team should fall apart like the Raptors do when he gets hurt... it's sad lol

Post #11 » by **DG88** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:47 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:How about Masai find a way to get this team an adequate backup big man. Most teams have better 3rd string Centers than our backup... it's really not hard to find.

Poeltl is good but no team should fall apart like the Raptors do when he gets hurt... it's sad lol

I think the point was that they never had intentions of building a roster that had the depth need to combat injuries. They knew they were rebuilding and being bad for a short while was the plan. I said this before the season. If we lose any of our main players to injury that we can't compete. No team goes through the season 100% healthy. If you lose Poeltl, Barnes, Quickley or Barrett for and extended period it's going to be hard to win. Plus our schedule isn't the easiest either.

Indeed · Post #12 » by **Indeed** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:07 pm

Thaddy wrote:

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How about benching the worst defenders like RJ, Dick, and Olynyk. Just play the young guys who will play hard. Jakobe is a great example, he's been fouling hard (but safe), diving for loose balls, and he is bringing the defense to the ball handler instead of being reactive.

Darko isn't going to be the coach we will be contending with. His X's and O's are the worst in the NBA. I could see him losing the locker room by the end of the season. It looks like Barnes is calling the shots instead of the coach.

You forgot about Barnes who got torched by Jackson, and Jackson targetted him on defense.

PD28 · Post #13 » by **PD28** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:02 am

This has the same energy as someone staying in the office after hours lol

AkelaLoneWolf · Post #14 » by **AkelaLoneWolf** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:14 am

DG88 wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:How about Masai find a way to get this team an adequate backup big man. Most teams have better 3rd string Centers than our backup... it's really not hard to find.

Poeltl is good but no team should fall apart like the Raptors do when he gets hurt... it's sad lol

I think the point was that they never had intentions of building a roster that had the depth need to combat injuries. They knew they were rebuilding and being bad for a short while was the plan. I said this before the season. If we lose any of our main players to injury that we can't compete. No team goes through the season 100% healthy. If you lose Poeltl, Barnes, Quickley or Barrett for and extended period it's going to be hard to win. Plus our schedule isn't the easiest either.

this is exactly it. we're tanking. what did people expect? a couple of wins would be good to improve morale around the team but they need to lose wayyyy more than they win and we are getting that done. making short term moves makes no sense.
right now there are no priorities other than developing our players and getting good draft position.
lol at people saying 'pressure is on darko'; FO trying to lose; they're not going to fire a coach for losing.

tecumseh18 · Post #15 » by **tecumseh18** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:17 am

DG88 wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:How about Masai find a way to get this team an adequate backup big man. Most teams have better 3rd string Centers than our backup... it's really not hard to find.

Poeltl is good but no team should fall apart like the Raptors do when he gets hurt... it's sad lol

I think the point was that they never had intentions of building a roster that had the depth need to combat injuries. They knew they were rebuilding and being bad for a short while was the plan. I said this before the season. If we lose any of our main players to injury that we can't compete. No team goes through the season 100% healthy. If you lose Poeltl, Barnes, Quickley or Barrett for and extended period it's going to be hard to win. Plus our schedule isn't the easiest either.

Raps have at least been competitive in games this season with one or two of the "core four" missing. Against the Celtics without Scottie, and the Knicks without IQ come to mind. But not having a centre is a big deal against most teams. We saw at the end of last season that this team can't function without Poeltl. He's the lynchpin of the entertankment we've been enjoying for the most part. Kelly, at best, is a back up PF. Ideally third string. He in no way, in no league should be viewed as a replacement starting C.

I had been pushing for trading Jak this season. But unless a prospect big comes back I'm not sure I have the stomach for what will ensue.

Chandan · Post #16 » by **Chandan** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:28 am

Welcome to shambles land

Psubs · Post #17 » by **Psubs** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:45 am

Naysorn wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:Darko benches Gradey and RJ consistently when they get backcut or fail to run back. I think Kelly is just on a conditioning stint.

The only guys that he can play more to improve the defense are Mogbo and Mitchell, and both tank the offense.

aka we have no two-way players so pick your poison

team needs talent

Jakobe and Mitchell were not playing and Poeltl. Boucher doesn't seem interested in defensive rebounding or boxing out.

Valard · Post #18 » by **Valard** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:49 am

Psubs wrote:
Naysorn wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:Darko benches Gradey and RJ consistently when they get backcut or fail to run back. I think Kelly is just on a conditioning stint.

The only guys that he can play more to improve the defense are Mogbo and Mitchell, and both tank the offense.

aka we have no two-way players so pick your poison

team needs talent

Jakobe and Mitchell were not playing and Poeltl. Boucher doesn't seem interested in defensive rebounding or boxing out.

I don't blame Boucher for not being interested. Having this g league coach treat you like the 15th man on the roster does not inspire any level of giving a ****.

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #19 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:49 am

MoneyBall · Post #20 » by **MoneyBall** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:30 am

Valard wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Naysorn wrote:aka we have no two-way players so pick your poison

team needs talent

Jakobe and Mitchell were not playing and Poeltl. Boucher doesn't seem interested in defensive rebounding or boxing out.

I don't blame Boucher for not being interested. Having this g league coach treat you like the 15th man on the roster does not inspire any level of giving a ****.

Boucher's got 11,000,000 reasons to be interested, and Darko ain't one of them.