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[Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:53 am
by TimeForChange
https://clutchpoints.com/nba-trade-market-west-contenders-buying-east-sellers-siegels-scoop

It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors. At the same time, it's also no secret that the Wizards are open to hearing all offers for Kyle Kuzma, Jordan Poole, Jonas Valanciunas, and Malcolm Brogdon. Washington has generated a lot of trade rumors in recent weeks about Kuzma and Valanciunas, two players expected to be moved before the trade deadline.


the rest of the article has a lot of good tidbits too.

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:55 am
by NinjaBro
Bring Valuncuinas home, we need another center.

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:08 am
by Harcore Fenton Mun
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Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:08 am
by AkelaLoneWolf
NinjaBro wrote:Bring Valuncuinas home, we need another center.

kind of a no brainer move; but don't want to give up draft assets which is what the wizards are gonna be looking for

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:28 am
by Snappycoocoo
bouche available as well

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:31 am
by LoveMyRaps
Boucher is retiring as a Raptor
Our very own Udonis Haslem

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Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:34 am
by Indeed
We are trading Olynyk before we know having a stretch 5?
Or we see enough to know?

And I am surprised Boucher isn't being shopped, he should have higher demand for being a smaller salary and expiring with the ability to space the floor and rebound.

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:34 am
by Tripod
Snappycoocoo wrote:bouche available as well

Better be. Davion too.

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:37 am
by Snappycoocoo
Tripod wrote:
Snappycoocoo wrote:bouche available as well

Better be. Davion too.



Bonjourrrrrr!

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:52 am
by Tripod
Indeed wrote:We are trading Olynyk before we know having a stretch 5?
Or we see enough to know?

And I am surprised Boucher isn't being shopped, he should have higher demand for being a smaller salary and expiring with the ability to space the floor and rebound.

2 days ago Jake Fischer said Boucher was available.

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:59 am
by mrdressup
Our trade assets are so in demand that we will have to attach picks to move them. No one who is selling is selling quality. I think we need to trade some bigger names and attach trash.

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:03 am
by ArthurVandelay
If the Raptors young core is:
IQ
RJ
Scottie
Dick
Ja’Kobe
Agbaji
Mogbo
Shead
Battle
Comche

The only tradable player remaining with any trade value is Poeltl.

Kelly no
Brown no
Boucher no
Davion no
Temple no
Fernando no

The only way you get any type of asset for Brown, Boucher, Davion is if you take back bad money that goes beyond this season

Hopefully expectations aren’t too high

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:43 am
by Los_29
mrdressup wrote:Our trade assets are so in demand that we will have to attach picks to move them. No one who is selling is selling quality. I think we need to trade some bigger names and attach trash.


Bruce Brown is on an expiring contract and if healthy, is a very good fit on contending teams.

KO won’t get anything back but I’d rather he just stay here because he helps our players offensively while losing games defensively. No reason to move him.

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:07 am
by mtcan
Los_29 wrote:
mrdressup wrote:Our trade assets are so in demand that we will have to attach picks to move them. No one who is selling is selling quality. I think we need to trade some bigger names and attach trash.


Bruce Brown is on an expiring contract and if healthy, is a very good fit on contending teams.

KO won’t get anything back but I’d rather he just stay here because he helps our players offensively while losing games defensively. No reason to move him.

KO making like 12 million per year for this year and next. He represents no significant hit to the cap. We don't have a guy that spaces the floor at the 5 like he does. What's the hurry to move him?

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:22 am
by MessiahUjiri
Los_29 wrote:
mrdressup wrote:Our trade assets are so in demand that we will have to attach picks to move them. No one who is selling is selling quality. I think we need to trade some bigger names and attach trash.


Bruce Brown is on an expiring contract and if healthy, is a very good fit on contending teams.

KO won’t get anything back but I’d rather he just stay here because he helps our players offensively while losing games defensively. No reason to move him.



Bruce Browns salary makes a trade difficult.

The NBA is now basically a bunch of star players >25M, and a bunch of role players <8M.

This season, the teams that are interested in a trade don’t have a spare $23M to send out, and Brown isnt worth much more than a 2nd round pick (or 2).

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:45 am
by Los_29
MessiahUjiri wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
mrdressup wrote:Our trade assets are so in demand that we will have to attach picks to move them. No one who is selling is selling quality. I think we need to trade some bigger names and attach trash.


Bruce Brown is on an expiring contract and if healthy, is a very good fit on contending teams.

KO won’t get anything back but I’d rather he just stay here because he helps our players offensively while losing games defensively. No reason to move him.



Bruce Browns salary makes a trade difficult.

The NBA is now basically a bunch of star players >25M, and a bunch of role players <8M.

This season, the teams that are interested in a trade don’t have a spare $23M to send out, and Brown isnt worth much more than a 2nd round pick (or 2).


Lots of really bad players making 6-8 million a year plus we have a 12.8 million trade exception we can use to facilitate a deal. If teams want him they can make it work quite easily.

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:47 am
by Pointgod
Los_29 wrote:
mrdressup wrote:Our trade assets are so in demand that we will have to attach picks to move them. No one who is selling is selling quality. I think we need to trade some bigger names and attach trash.


Bruce Brown is on an expiring contract and if healthy, is a very good fit on contending teams.

KO won’t get anything back but I’d rather he just stay here because he helps our players offensively while losing games defensively. No reason to move him.


Bruh Bruce Brown hasn’t played all year lol. His value is an expiring contract and we’d have to take on salary which I’m not opposed to if assets are coming back.

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:50 am
by Thaddy
We need a good big man and that will cost us Agbaji or another decent piece. The poopoo platter of Brown and Olynyk isn't getting us anything worth discussing.

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:55 am
by LoveMyRaps
Thaddy wrote:We need a good big man and that will cost us Agbaji or another decent piece. The poopoo platter of Brown and Olynyk isn't getting us anything worth discussing.


Y'all were the same ones that thought Masai couldn't get anything in return for McDaniels.

Re: [Siegel] It is no secret to anyone that Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk are being shopped by the Raptors

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:15 am
by PhilBlackson
Not that I thought they’d be closed to the idea of trading Olynk but I am a little surprised that they’re actively doing so. I have no complaints about it.

Even though I think he’s a solid enough backup when fully healthy, I understand he’s getting old too and obviously when you see how the FO was able to connect with Shead, Mogbo…previously Norm, Fred, that those 2nds could turn into even more valuable (long term) rotation pieces so it makes sense. My surprise is only based on the fact they so proudly advertised him as a Canadian player that loved the franchise growing up but obviously we all understand it’s a business, just saying, news surprised me a lil bit but hopefully they can get each guy to more competitive teams and we can turn whatever we get in return into some solid pieces in the future.