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Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:15 am
by Nebuchadnezzar
Given the two separate comments by Darko about developing Yak's three-point shot, this will be something worth monitoring.
I also imagine there'll be lots of discussion about whether or not he will be able to do this, and what evidence there is for a center of his makeup, developing a passable three-point shot at the stage of his career at 29.
For a raptor related comparable, Marc Gasol did not start taking threes until he was 32 years old. This, of course was at a time where centers weren't taking as many three-point shots, however, I don't think this matters in terms of an individual's development of the skill.
Let's see how this all goes!
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:23 am
by junot111
Marc Gasol was a high post player that took plenty of mid range shots, it wasn't that much of a transition for him to move a few feet back. Less than 1% of Poeltl's FGA is from beyond 16 feet. Even JV showed more signs of having a touch from mid range. Poeltl's 3pt attempt seemed like a tanking move to me
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:30 am
by Raps in 4
Poeltl is going to develop a 3-point shot before Scottie.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:38 am
by gp2015
A poor three throw shooter will suddenly develop a decent 3 point shot?
Yeah right.
He doesn't even have a semblance of a mid range game.
I would like to see the number of players who are below 60% career free throw shooters and can shoot 3 pointers.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:41 am
by gp2015
Raps in 4 wrote:Poeltl is going to develop a 3-point shot before Scottie.
No he won't. Neither of them will.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:44 am
by Thaddy
Anyone remember when Achiuwa was in the rising stars game and he looked off Bane and bricked a 3pt shot to win it.
That's the type of energy I need from Yak.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:41 am
by Grew
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:26 am
by tsherkin
gp2015 wrote:A poor three throw shooter will suddenly develop a decent 3 point shot?
Yeah right.
He doesn't even have a semblance of a mid range game.
I would like to see the number of players who are below 60% career free throw shooters and can shoot 3 pointers.
Bruce Bowen comes to mind; he led the league in 3P% one year, up over 44%, and shot under 41% at the line. Andrew Wiggins in some seasons. Rasheed Wallace.
It isn't TOTALLY unthinkable that he might become semi-competent from the corners. Not so much ATB, but set C+S in the corners is doable.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:38 am
by Son Goku 25
Yak about to be GOAT and unstoppable lol imagine him with a jump shot.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:39 am
by tsherkin
Son Goku 25 wrote:Yak about to be GOAT and unstoppable lol imagine him with a jump shot.
I imagine he'd feature very differently in our future plans if he can Al Horford himself.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:06 pm
by ArthurVandelay
gp2015 wrote:A poor three throw shooter will suddenly develop a decent 3 point shot?
Yeah right.
He doesn't even have a semblance of a mid range game.
I would like to see the number of players who are below 60% career free throw shooters and can shoot 3 pointers.
Bruce Bowen came immediately to mind. Career 57% ft and 39% 3pt.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:07 pm
by ArthurVandelay
tsherkin wrote:gp2015 wrote:A poor three throw shooter will suddenly develop a decent 3 point shot?
Yeah right.
He doesn't even have a semblance of a mid range game.
I would like to see the number of players who are below 60% career free throw shooters and can shoot 3 pointers.
Bruce Bowen comes to mind; he led the league in 3P% one year, up over 44%, and shot under 41% at the line. Andrew Wiggins in some seasons. Rasheed Wallace.
It isn't TOTALLY unthinkable that he might become semi-competent from the corners. Not so much ATB, but set C+S in the corners is doable.
Oops...what he said.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:21 pm
by tsherkin
ArthurVandelay wrote:tsherkin wrote:gp2015 wrote:A poor three throw shooter will suddenly develop a decent 3 point shot?
Yeah right.
He doesn't even have a semblance of a mid range game.
I would like to see the number of players who are below 60% career free throw shooters and can shoot 3 pointers.
Bruce Bowen comes to mind; he led the league in 3P% one year, up over 44%, and shot under 41% at the line. Andrew Wiggins in some seasons. Rasheed Wallace.
It isn't TOTALLY unthinkable that he might become semi-competent from the corners. Not so much ATB, but set C+S in the corners is doable.
Oops...what he said.
Heheheh.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:37 pm
by kwajo
ArthurVandelay wrote:tsherkin wrote:gp2015 wrote:A poor three throw shooter will suddenly develop a decent 3 point shot?
Yeah right.
He doesn't even have a semblance of a mid range game.
I would like to see the number of players who are below 60% career free throw shooters and can shoot 3 pointers.
Bruce Bowen comes to mind; he led the league in 3P% one year, up over 44%, and shot under 41% at the line. Andrew Wiggins in some seasons. Rasheed Wallace.
It isn't TOTALLY unthinkable that he might become semi-competent from the corners. Not so much ATB, but set C+S in the corners is doable.
Oops...what he said.
Yeah I was about to post Bruce Bowen's stats too, he is the ultimate trend breaker for things like this.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:41 pm
by tsherkin
kwajo wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:tsherkin wrote:
Bruce Bowen comes to mind; he led the league in 3P% one year, up over 44%, and shot under 41% at the line. Andrew Wiggins in some seasons. Rasheed Wallace.
It isn't TOTALLY unthinkable that he might become semi-competent from the corners. Not so much ATB, but set C+S in the corners is doable.
Oops...what he said.
Yeah I was about to post Bruce Bowen's stats too, he is the ultimate trend breaker for things like this.
I mean, we've seen a variety of guys (lately, a lot of bigs) learn how to pop from the corner. I dunno that it WILL work with Poeltl, but I wouldn't rule out trying, as long as we don't rob ourselves of his of high offensive rebounding by having him out beyond the 3pt line too much, you know?
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:44 pm
by Brinbe
Doesn't have to be a flamethrower but just being willing to take some 3s every now and then will help a lot. we see him operate as a DHO hub and left open up top plenty of times.
This is kinda Darko's MO as a developmental-focused coach and I like that he has the same attitude/focus for everyone, not just the young guys.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:48 pm
by Backcountry
I dunno, Poeltl has the worst shooting form of, well, anybody. Shot-puts his free-throws and pretty well anything else beyond 6 feet that he can't hook shot. It's going to take a lot of work to get him shooting 3s at anything approaching a respectable clip. If they haven't got Scottie doing it, I don't know how they think they can get Jak to.
His 3 from the other night was horrible looking...before it went in.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:50 pm
by Tofubeque
Jak's going to be the league's only 1-handed 3pt shooter
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:56 pm
by tsherkin
Backcountry wrote:I dunno, Poeltl has the worst shooting form of, well, anybody. Shot-puts his free-throws and pretty well anything else beyond 6 feet that he can't hook shot. It's going to take a lot of work to get him shooting 3s at anything approaching a respectable clip. If they haven't got Scottie doing it, I don't know how they think they can get Jak to.
His 3 from the other night was horrible looking...before it went in.
Magic had a pretty ugly three-ball, too, but it worked. We'll see. There's a good 80% chance (or more) that Yak won't develop a reliable 3 at 33% or better. But if he does, then that'd be amazing.
Re: Development Watch - Poeltl's Three Point Shot
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:22 pm
by NBA Sheady
Grew wrote:Anyone remember this?
The first thing that sprang to mind when I opened this thread.