How Do We Feel About The Rockets Winning With A Non-Shooting Frontcourt?

[Tor_Raps]

The Rockets best lineup in the Regular season and playoffs mostly consisted of a Adams - Sengun - Thompson front court. How does it make us feel about those Fred - OG - Barnes - Siakam - Poeltl teams that failed here?

Do we think that if Masai had built the depth of those teams that the end result could have been different? Just thought I'd bring it up to see people's thoughts.

[Basketball_Jones]

Precious/Gary/Boucher all forgot how to play basketball and I can’t even remember who our backup PG was. Flynn? Good god. They had a short window following the Poeltl trade and choked against Chicago. Cest la vie.

[Los_29]

The Rockets best lineup in the Regular season and playoffs mostly consisted of a Adams - Sengun - Thompson front court. How does it make us feel about those Fred - OG - Barnes - Siakam - Poeltl teams that failed here?

Do we think that if Masai had built the depth of those teams that the end result could have been different? Just thought I'd bring it up to see people's thoughts.

Houston hasn’t won anything yet. Golden State is also a team that started GPII, Draymond and Butler.

[Tor_Raps]

The Rockets best lineup in the Regular season and playoffs mostly consisted of a Adams - Sengun - Thompson front court. How does it make us feel about those Fred - OG - Barnes - Siakam - Poeltl teams that failed here?

Do we think that if Masai had built the depth of those teams that the end result could have been different? Just thought I'd bring it up to see people's thoughts.

Houston hasn’t won anything yet. Golden State is also a team that started GPII, Draymond and Butler.

Finishing 2nd in a stacked west and even losing in 7 games would be MUCH better than how we did. Then you account that majority of the Houston roster is inexperienced, it shows it is possible to succeed without having good shooters in your front court.

[XTC]

The Rockets best lineup in the Regular season and playoffs mostly consisted of a Adams - Sengun - Thompson front court. How does it make us feel about those Fred - OG - Barnes - Siakam - Poeltl teams that failed here?

Do we think that if Masai had built the depth of those teams that the end result could have been different? Just thought I'd bring it up to see people's thoughts.

Steven Adams only played 13 MPG in the regular season, they're exploiting Golden States lack of size and toughness at the moment. What Adams is doing at the moment is similiar to what Mikki Moore did to us in 2007.

Houston is good because they can literally throw an army of defenders at you at every position... Thompson, Eason, and Brooks I literally think those 3 are All Defensive caliber on defense. Then they got solid vets who know their role in FVV, and Steven Adams. Their center Sengun can give you 18-20/10/5 every single night, and has an array of post moves he can go to... and they probably got the best coach in the NBA in Udoka, every player is held accountable, and the offensive isn't force fed through a single player, they play BEAUTIFUL basketball.

Houston is literally 1 star away from becoming a contender IMO.

[ontnut]

The Rockets best lineup in the Regular season and playoffs mostly consisted of a Adams - Sengun - Thompson front court. How does it make us feel about those Fred - OG - Barnes - Siakam - Poeltl teams that failed here?

Do we think that if Masai had built the depth of those teams that the end result could have been different? Just thought I'd bring it up to see people's thoughts.

The lack of shooting on the Rockets is/will be their downfall. I think if you ask Rockets fans, they would identify that as their major concern, because even their backcourt shoots below avg.

Yes, if we had better depth (and health) we could'e been better. But ultimately, the crossroads of roster price and construction became an issue before the proof of concept could take hold.

[ATLTimekeeper]

The Rockets best lineup in the Regular season and playoffs mostly consisted of a Adams - Sengun - Thompson front court. How does it make us feel about those Fred - OG - Barnes - Siakam - Poeltl teams that failed here?

Do we think that if Masai had built the depth of those teams that the end result could have been different? Just thought I'd bring it up to see people's thoughts.

Houston's cap management has been much better than ours in the last several years and much better than their drafting, but I still see them losing the next game.

[DreamTeam09]

Just goes to show there's multiple ways to skin a cat and that this board should stop with this 2K way of thinking when considering roster construction

[AbC?]

That version of the team was always doomed to fail because every player was slotted up a spot higher than they should have been. Siakam can't be your primary, FVV can't be your 2 and so on. If the front office was serious about giving that team a small puncher's chance of contending they should have traded Barnes/Boucher/Trent for Durant. And it was doable, Barnes still had the potential label and the money worked after January 5th the year KD got traded.

In any case the Rockets haven't done anything so I don't know why we're using them as some model of success here.

[tsherkin]

Houston hasn’t won anything yet. Golden State is also a team that started GPII, Draymond and Butler.

This. Golden State was the 15th-ranked O in the regular season and they're 4 points worse than that right now in this series against the 4th-ranked defense in the league. They're crushing the offensive glass, getting all up in Golden State's business, and the Warriors look lost offensively. Steph's fine, but he can't go for 40, and they lost Butler for a game due to the injury, which they lost. They have two guys averaging more than 11.3 ppg. Hield has been a disaster.

So yeah, I don't know that I would draw too much from this series, because the Warriors are a very flawed team.

[Boogie!]

Just goes to show there's multiple ways to skin a cat and that this board should stop with this 2K way of thinking when considering roster construction

Houston isn’t doing anything significant.

[Tor_Raps]

A lot of downplaying a team that just finished 2nd in a loaded West and is taking a Gstate team that was playing some of the best basketball after getting Butler in the NBA to 7 games. This while being one of the youngest teams in the NBA of players who actually play regularly.

If the Raptors did any of those things, there would be a massive circle-jerk...

[Scase]

The Rockets best lineup in the Regular season and playoffs mostly consisted of a Adams - Sengun - Thompson front court. How does it make us feel about those Fred - OG - Barnes - Siakam - Poeltl teams that failed here?

Do we think that if Masai had built the depth of those teams that the end result could have been different? Just thought I'd bring it up to see people's thoughts.

Ultimately I don't think they win anything substantial, but making it to the second round with that young of a roster definitely gives them a lot of flexibility we never had in those days.

[Tripod]

Houston built up lots of depth then added multiple vets. Obviously they have a team identity of defense on every possession.

Like it or not, the Raps team became selfish and Nurse enabled it because he knew he was leaving. They were playing awful basketball and fir their next contracts...and they all got them.

Masai...but I believe it was actually Bobby...built no depth. In the end, those 5+ Achiuwa and Boucher led by Nurse could not beat a Bulls team led by a screaming little girl.

Time to move on.

[Los_29]

The Rockets best lineup in the Regular season and playoffs mostly consisted of a Adams - Sengun - Thompson front court. How does it make us feel about those Fred - OG - Barnes - Siakam - Poeltl teams that failed here?

Do we think that if Masai had built the depth of those teams that the end result could have been different? Just thought I'd bring it up to see people's thoughts.

Houston hasn’t won anything yet. Golden State is also a team that started GPII, Draymond and Butler.

Finishing 2nd in a stacked west and even losing in 7 games would be MUCH better than how we did. Then you account that majority of the Houston roster is inexperienced, it shows it is possible to succeed without having good shooters in your front court.

Houston tanked for 4 years and paid Fred 43 million to get to this point.

And who cares. I want to win championships. Houston isn’t winning a championship with this roster. They are also playing a very old and flawed team who is also doing the same lineups as Houston. Three non-shooters.

[Tor_Raps]

Houston hasn’t won anything yet. Golden State is also a team that started GPII, Draymond and Butler.

Finishing 2nd in a stacked west and even losing in 7 games would be MUCH better than how we did. Then you account that majority of the Houston roster is inexperienced, it shows it is possible to succeed without having good shooters in your front court.

Houston tanked for 4 years and paid Fred 43 million to get to this point.

And who cares. I want to win championships. Houston isn’t winning a championship with this roster. They are also playing a very old and flawed team who is also doing the same lineups as Houston. Three non-shooters.

Do you think teams turn into championship contenders overnight? There are progressive steps required in order to get there...

[TravisScott55]

Ime Udoka is a much, much, much better and smarter coach than Nick Nurse.

[Tripod]

Finishing 2nd in a stacked west and even losing in 7 games would be MUCH better than how we did. Then you account that majority of the Houston roster is inexperienced, it shows it is possible to succeed without having good shooters in your front court.

Houston tanked for 4 years and paid Fred 43 million to get to this point.

And who cares. I want to win championships. Houston isn’t winning a championship with this roster. They are also playing a very old and flawed team who is also doing the same lineups as Houston. Three non-shooters.

Do you think teams turn into championship contenders overnight? There are progressive steps required in order to get there...

Yeah that part I always find weird. No one goes from lottery to Finals in 1 year. You build towards it.

Houston is in a good spot....win or lose today. Then they will try and build off that...internally and thru trades. A bunch of their young guys are far from finished products.

[Los_29]

Finishing 2nd in a stacked west and even losing in 7 games would be MUCH better than how we did. Then you account that majority of the Houston roster is inexperienced, it shows it is possible to succeed without having good shooters in your front court.

Houston tanked for 4 years and paid Fred 43 million to get to this point.

And who cares. I want to win championships. Houston isn’t winning a championship with this roster. They are also playing a very old and flawed team who is also doing the same lineups as Houston. Three non-shooters.

Do you think teams turn into championship contenders overnight? There are progressive steps required in order to get there...

The current players on their team aren’t winning a championship. Thats not to say they can’t make moves and construct a championship roster like we did here. They have good players and picks. Thats also not to say that this experience isn’t going to make them better. It will.

As Tsherkin and I mentioned, they are playing a flawed Warriors team who are also playing three non-shooters. Three non-shooters with Jalen Green and FVV aren’t ever going to win a championship. lol.

[Brinbe]

The Warriors have a really good defense that's well-equipped to deal with a Warriors squad lacking real size/physicality outside of an aging Jimmy and an undersized Draymond who can't bully Adams.

Will they be able to do the same thing to a Wolves team that has size, defenders and a better scorer in Ant Man? Probably not. Plus don't know if they really have anyone that can defend Randle.