Open Gym - Reflecting on 30 Years and the Future of the Toronto Raptors
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Open Gym - Reflecting on 30 Years and the Future of the Toronto Raptors
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BI looks like he wakes up to a blunt. I'm jealous.
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NBA Sheady wrote:BI looks like he wakes up to a blunt. I'm jealous.
I find it weird how often Bobby and Masai keep repeating that Ingram is a hard worker.
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ishoy123 wrote:NBA Sheady wrote:BI looks like he wakes up to a blunt. I'm jealous.
I find it weird how often Bobby and Masai keep repeating that Ingram is a hard worker.
I just think it's a function of what they've re-focused on in terms of the attributes they really want from their players.
Masai has expressed that the team has gotten away from development and a team focus, and I think acquiring players that are coachable, will work hard to integrate not only into systems but with their teammates off the court etc. has been placed at the top of the priority list.
I'm guessing when they were going over the pros/cons of the BI trade, this was a big one, so it just naturally comes up whenever a reporter asks about how BI is doing now. They believe in his character, and therefore trust that his hard work and unselfishness will translate.
He's also been injured so I'm guessing part of the response is aimed to quell any fears about BI busting his ass to be ready for the start of next season. At least if I was in their shoes, I'd be cognizant of the fact that fans haven't even seen BI on the court yet, so I'd try to provide reassurance when the topic arises.

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NBA Sheady wrote:BI looks like he wakes up to a blunt. I'm jealous.
The sleepy assassin. BI the new Tmac. His career is about to blow up here like Tmac's did in Orlando. They both have the size, skill and those sleepy eyes, it's meant to be.

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Grew wrote:NBA Sheady wrote:BI looks like he wakes up to a blunt. I'm jealous.
The sleepy assassin. BI the new Tmac. His career is about to blow up here like Tmac's did in Orlando. They both have the size, skill and those sleepy eyes, it's meant to be.
My friend has those sleepy eyes. He says it's because some guys on his block let him smoke a blunt when he was eight years old. Idk if he's lying or not but he's one of my closest friends. Great rizz!!

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ishoy123 wrote:NBA Sheady wrote:BI looks like he wakes up to a blunt. I'm jealous.
I find it weird how often Bobby and Masai keep repeating that Ingram is a hard worker.
It’s his sleepy eyes shape is genetics man lol. He’s more talented than anyone on our roster, do you think he was born like that? It’s clearly his hard work.
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No one has to convince me that BI isn't a worker.
It starts with how his body looks now vs as a rookie. He filled out his frame very well.
Whatever he has done to become a 24 pt scorer who gets you 5 rebounds and 5 assists a game...keep doing it. Shot making is elite and has vision to pass. You probably adjust the shot diet to include a couple more 3s vs long 2s...but I love his game.
Please just find a way to play at least 67 games a season and stay healthy enough for a playoff run.
It starts with how his body looks now vs as a rookie. He filled out his frame very well.
Whatever he has done to become a 24 pt scorer who gets you 5 rebounds and 5 assists a game...keep doing it. Shot making is elite and has vision to pass. You probably adjust the shot diet to include a couple more 3s vs long 2s...but I love his game.
Please just find a way to play at least 67 games a season and stay healthy enough for a playoff run.
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ishoy123 wrote:NBA Sheady wrote:BI looks like he wakes up to a blunt. I'm jealous.
I find it weird how often Bobby and Masai keep repeating that Ingram is a hard worker.
I think it's focus of the new team culture...work hard, learn from coaches, play an unselfish team game.
Seeing how well this group actually gets along is so refreshing vs previous years where divides were obvious and it impacted the team.
It's why if we do go after a big trade, we won't touch someone like Zion, regardless of his skill or cost to get him. We rebuilt this culture and BI is fitting in nicely without even playing a game yet.
The best is yet to come.
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Grew wrote:NBA Sheady wrote:BI looks like he wakes up to a blunt. I'm jealous.
The sleepy assassin. BI the new Tmac. His career is about to blow up here like Tmac's did in Orlando. They both have the size, skill and those sleepy eyes, it's meant to be.
TMac had started only 53 games in 3 years with TOR before he joined ORL as a 21 year old. Ingram has started 456 games in 9 seasons and will be 28 years old when he plays his 1st game for the Raptors.
I am not aware of a precedent where an NBA player blew up at 28 like TMac blew up at 21. The expectations of Ingram are reaching unreasonable status. I'll be happy if he can play in TOR like he played in NO but without the injuries.
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Tacoma wrote:Grew wrote:NBA Sheady wrote:BI looks like he wakes up to a blunt. I'm jealous.
The sleepy assassin. BI the new Tmac. His career is about to blow up here like Tmac's did in Orlando. They both have the size, skill and those sleepy eyes, it's meant to be.
TMac had started only 53 games in 3 years with TOR before he joined ORL as a 21 year old. Ingram has started 456 games in 9 seasons and will be 28 years old when he plays his 1st game for the Raptors.
I am not aware of a precedent where an NBA player blew up at 28 like TMac blew up at 21. The expectations of Ingram are reaching unreasonable status. I'll be happy if he can play in TOR like he played in NO but without the injuries.
GROAT Kyle Lowry's career blew up at 27 with the raps, first all star at 28.

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Grew wrote:Tacoma wrote:Grew wrote:
The sleepy assassin. BI the new Tmac. His career is about to blow up here like Tmac's did in Orlando. They both have the size, skill and those sleepy eyes, it's meant to be.
TMac had started only 53 games in 3 years with TOR before he joined ORL as a 21 year old. Ingram has started 456 games in 9 seasons and will be 28 years old when he plays his 1st game for the Raptors.
I am not aware of a precedent where an NBA player blew up at 28 like TMac blew up at 21. The expectations of Ingram are reaching unreasonable status. I'll be happy if he can play in TOR like he played in NO but without the injuries.
GROAT Kyle Lowry's career blew up at 27 with the raps, first all star at 28.
Billups first all star was age 29
Derrick White played much better after trade to Boston/age 28
Zubac had a career this year at age 28
many more examples out there
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Godaddycurse wrote:Grew wrote:Tacoma wrote:
TMac had started only 53 games in 3 years with TOR before he joined ORL as a 21 year old. Ingram has started 456 games in 9 seasons and will be 28 years old when he plays his 1st game for the Raptors.
I am not aware of a precedent where an NBA player blew up at 28 like TMac blew up at 21. The expectations of Ingram are reaching unreasonable status. I'll be happy if he can play in TOR like he played in NO but without the injuries.
GROAT Kyle Lowry's career blew up at 27 with the raps, first all star at 28.
Billups first all star was age 29
Derrick White played much better after trade to Boston/age 28
Zubac had a career this year at age 28
many more examples out there
Scottie at 28 is thing to be a monster
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Godaddycurse wrote:Grew wrote:Tacoma wrote:
TMac had started only 53 games in 3 years with TOR before he joined ORL as a 21 year old. Ingram has started 456 games in 9 seasons and will be 28 years old when he plays his 1st game for the Raptors.
I am not aware of a precedent where an NBA player blew up at 28 like TMac blew up at 21. The expectations of Ingram are reaching unreasonable status. I'll be happy if he can play in TOR like he played in NO but without the injuries.
GROAT Kyle Lowry's career blew up at 27 with the raps, first all star at 28.
Billups first all star was age 29
Derrick White played much better after trade to Boston/age 28
Zubac had a career this year at age 28
many more examples out there
Ingram's also already been an All-Star while playing in a much tougher conference in probably the worst organization in the league.
I think he's being underrated more than overrated in general on this forum. Depending on what happens with KD this off-season, I think there's a pretty good chance that Ingram is the best player to enter the Eastern Conference this year.
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Grew wrote:Tacoma wrote:Grew wrote:
The sleepy assassin. BI the new Tmac. His career is about to blow up here like Tmac's did in Orlando. They both have the size, skill and those sleepy eyes, it's meant to be.
TMac had started only 53 games in 3 years with TOR before he joined ORL as a 21 year old. Ingram has started 456 games in 9 seasons and will be 28 years old when he plays his 1st game for the Raptors.
I am not aware of a precedent where an NBA player blew up at 28 like TMac blew up at 21. The expectations of Ingram are reaching unreasonable status. I'll be happy if he can play in TOR like he played in NO but without the injuries.
GROAT Kyle Lowry's career blew up at 27 with the raps, first all star at 28.
Lowry was a late bloomer, Ingram on the other hand has already reached his limits.
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Mattatron wrote:Grew wrote:Tacoma wrote:
TMac had started only 53 games in 3 years with TOR before he joined ORL as a 21 year old. Ingram has started 456 games in 9 seasons and will be 28 years old when he plays his 1st game for the Raptors.
I am not aware of a precedent where an NBA player blew up at 28 like TMac blew up at 21. The expectations of Ingram are reaching unreasonable status. I'll be happy if he can play in TOR like he played in NO but without the injuries.
GROAT Kyle Lowry's career blew up at 27 with the raps, first all star at 28.
Lowry was a late bloomer, Ingram on the other hand has already reached his limits.
All he has to do is stay relatively healthy and boom, new limit

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Grew wrote:Mattatron wrote:Grew wrote:
GROAT Kyle Lowry's career blew up at 27 with the raps, first all star at 28.
Lowry was a late bloomer, Ingram on the other hand has already reached his limits.
All he has to do is stay relatively healthy and boom, new limit
BI was asked to be the primary playmaker the past 3 years because CJ Mac was the "point guard" which limited his opportunities to score. So he has absolutely not reached his scoring potential.
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Mattatron wrote:Grew wrote:Tacoma wrote:
TMac had started only 53 games in 3 years with TOR before he joined ORL as a 21 year old. Ingram has started 456 games in 9 seasons and will be 28 years old when he plays his 1st game for the Raptors.
I am not aware of a precedent where an NBA player blew up at 28 like TMac blew up at 21. The expectations of Ingram are reaching unreasonable status. I'll be happy if he can play in TOR like he played in NO but without the injuries.
GROAT Kyle Lowry's career blew up at 27 with the raps, first all star at 28.
Lowry was a late bloomer, Ingram on the other hand has already reached his limits.
I don't know if he can get better but he's still the same guy who has averaged close to 23-25 points a game for 3 of the last 6 seasons. He can still do that. That's an all-star in the East and easily the top scorer on this team. If he can give you that kind of production and stay healthy for at least 65 games...that's good enough for me.
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Mikistan wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:Grew wrote:
GROAT Kyle Lowry's career blew up at 27 with the raps, first all star at 28.
Billups first all star was age 29
Derrick White played much better after trade to Boston/age 28
Zubac had a career this year at age 28
many more examples out there
Scottie at 28 is thing to be a monster
I agree with this. There is just something about Scottie that I beleive in. He ia fearless & he is a competitor.
I think it's going to take a bit of time with Scottie, but I think he is going to be a beast in his prime.

* Props to the man, the myth, the legend......TZ.