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SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 11:06 pm
by vini_vidi_vici

Some other stats.
5th in total possessions.
1st in Points off turnovers per 100 possessions.
2nd in Fast Break Points per 100p.
1st in Paint Points per 100p.
3rd in AST ratio.
4th in total clutch mins.
6th in total clutch points.
So quite abit of experience for the rooks on the squad.
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 11:44 pm
by GoRapstheoriginal
How about D# stats? Just wondering.
Also thanks for this VVV!
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 3:30 am
by YogurtProducer
I guess that’s what happens when 4 rooks all look like legit rotation guys from day 1
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 11:28 am
by Indeed
Raw points, meh.
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 3:17 pm
by Duffman100
Indeed wrote:Raw points, meh.
Good that we're letting the kids play, learn through mistakes etc.
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 3:38 pm
by Indeed
Duffman100 wrote:Indeed wrote:Raw points, meh.
Good that we're letting the kids play, learn through mistakes etc.
Well, then, we should be less focused on the stats and result, more focus with the skill improvement or counters they gained (eg. 3 point shooting from the start of the season to end of the season).
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 3:41 pm
by Duffman100
Indeed wrote:Duffman100 wrote:Indeed wrote:Raw points, meh.
Good that we're letting the kids play, learn through mistakes etc.
Well, then, we should be less focused on the stats and result, more focus with the skill improvement or counters they gained (eg. 3 point shooting from the start of the season to end of the season).
Why? One big push from so many is to play youngsters and let them go through growing pains. That's how you build 'properly'.
But sure, look at Walter and Shead both had good growth throughout the season.
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 3:48 pm
by vini_vidi_vici
Its tough to do defensive stats with comparisons of teams cumulative stats, STLs per 100P they are 3rd.
As for raw points, they are 3rd in points per 100p, 9th in 3PT%.
There was only 3 teams with higher than 900 cumulative mins (TOR/UTAH/WASH), best TS%, best AST/TO ratio, so while they werent great efficiency as a whole, among teams not insulating rookies (ex: not playing them alot, and/or playing them with vets, and/or limiting possessions) they were pretty good relatively.
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 4:05 pm
by Duffman100
vini_vidi_vici wrote:Its tough to do defensive stats with comparisons of teams cumulative stats, STLs per 100P they are 3rd.
As for raw points, they are 3rd in points per 100p, 9th in 3PT%.
There was only 3 teams with higher than 900 cumulative mins (TOR/UTAH/WASH), best TS%, best AST/TO ratio, so while they werent great efficiency as a whole, among teams not insulating rookies (ex: not playing them alot, and/or playing them with vets, and/or limiting possessions) they were pretty good relatively.
Pretty sure Mogbo is driving down some of those stats on his own.

Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 5:48 pm
by Indeed
Duffman100 wrote:Indeed wrote:Duffman100 wrote:
Good that we're letting the kids play, learn through mistakes etc.
Well, then, we should be less focused on the stats and result, more focus with the skill improvement or counters they gained (eg. 3 point shooting from the start of the season to end of the season).
Why? One big push from so many is to play youngsters and let them go through growing pains. That's how you build 'properly'.
But sure, look at Walter and Shead both had good growth throughout the season.
And Mogbo also improved his 3 point shooting at the end of the season.
But again, not a fan of raw stats, those are more for casuals.
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 6:24 pm
by deck
Indeed wrote:Duffman100 wrote:Indeed wrote:
Well, then, we should be less focused on the stats and result, more focus with the skill improvement or counters they gained (eg. 3 point shooting from the start of the season to end of the season).
Why? One big push from so many is to play youngsters and let them go through growing pains. That's how you build 'properly'.
But sure, look at Walter and Shead both had good growth throughout the season.
And Mogbo also improved his 3 point shooting at the end of the season.
But again, not a fan of raw stats, those are more for casuals.
The point of the stats was made pretty clear in the OP.
vini_vidi_vici wrote:So quite abit of experience for the rooks on the squad.
I don't see how looking at totals is for 'casuals' when the point was clearly made that it is an indicator of the experience our younger players were given, rather than some kind of ranking of our young talent relative to others in the league.
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 6:27 pm
by Duffman100
yeah talking about VVV being a casual is pretty bad.
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 6:48 pm
by Clay Davis
Sophs + #9 +29 is gonna lead the league in RIZZ. The new bench mob. They will be playing their hearts out, destroying starting line-ups every night and partying like young bucks at the club on the road until NINE AM the next morning. James Harden will then lobby to join us for the minimum because he will want to go back to his glory years of playing off the bench with our younga stridez and to feel young again attending clubbing events after games but the team will say NO. You don't party hard enough. We like partying, but we don't want to party with YOU. And then James Harden will get very sad. Depressed, even.
I can see it now, the bench mob blowing out contending teams on the road... going to clubs, partying like crazy... Scottie Barnes, on his roller blades, roller blading through the club. It'll be like Soul Train. But even better.
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 8:11 pm
by Kevin Willis
That is impressive for a rookie unit. There are other teams that have several young high picks who are not doing that well. This is going to make the team so much better next year.
Re: SotD: Collective team rookie stats.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 8:23 pm
by Raps in 4
Masai continues to show why he's the best drafting executive in the league. Someone on here recently argued that drafting is almost all luck. There is certainly a luck component to it, but scouting is absolutely a skill and some executives/organizations are better at it than others.