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Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish” // Giannis & Toronto "Mutual Interest"/KD too
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 4:53 pm
by WuTang_OG
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/brian-windhorst-the-hoop-collective/id293376147?i=100071073556423 min
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Rumors surrounding Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo future continue to swirl, and the Toronto Raptors are being linked to the two-time MVP.
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Veteran Toronto Star reporter Doug Smith revealed that there’s real mutual interest between Antetokounmpo and the Raptors, though making a deal happen remains a big challenge.
“I don’t know if it will happen but I do know there is mutual interest between Antetokounmpo and the Raptors,” Smith wrote, per Hoopshype. “The wild card is the cost. But I also think the Raptors are uniquely placed to make an attractive offer that won’t ruin their franchise or roster.”
According to Smith, Toronto could put together a competitive package without gutting their core or jeopardizing their long-term future.
“I would make the case that a logjam at the wings makes them deep enough that if they had to pay even two out of Gradey Dick, Ochai Agbaji, Ja’Kobe Walter, RJ Barrett, Jonathan Mogbo would still leave enough to fill out a pretty good team with promising young players still developing.”
“Plus, they have all their picks, so giving a first-rounder every year for, say, four years, leaves enough,” he explained.
During the 2024-25 NBA regular season, Giannis averaged 30.4 points, 11.9 rebounds, and 6.5 assists per game while shooting 60.1% from the field.
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 4:54 pm
by Potential
We're 100% going to be very aggressive for Giannis
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 4:57 pm
by Clutch0z24
21:50 Mark
This could be interesting ....Even if we don't get Giannis we prolly have the assets to make another move for another player....Lets hope it works this time...
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 4:59 pm
by tdotrep2
It's obviously going to be a push for giannis, but who else could potentially be on their radar? Durant?
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:00 pm
by LoveMyRaps
Draft night seems like a good time to make such a trade!
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:01 pm
by Brinbe
that's not surprising. they've been wanting that for years now since dame/kd. but convincing that sort of 1A guy to be a featured act here when they can play anywhere is a tough recruiting job.
and to be clear, siakam isn't a big fish.
i usually love their convos on the hoops collective pod but they're way off there. pascal is a great robin but that wasn't his role here.
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:04 pm
by Boardbreaker
tdotrep2 wrote:It's obviously going to be a push for giannis, but who else could potentially be on their radar? Durant?
Booker? Ja?
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:04 pm
by Troubadour
The irony of trading Pascal Siakam because he's "only a number two option" to then trade for a "big fish" who needs a number two option is too much for me to stomach.
Also weird how superstar and future face of the league needs a "big fish" on top of leading scoring option and ball handler Brandon Ingram and second scoring option RJ Barrett. What's his role on the team at that point and when does management get rid of everyone again to make sure Scottie's ego isn't bruised?
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:07 pm
by Zeno
I have a feeling, it’s JJJ we are really after. The way Windhorst mentioned the Kings wanting a point guard gave me the impression that IQ could be of interest there. Maybe a three teamer..off to the trade machine…
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:07 pm
by Clutch0z24
Boardbreaker wrote:tdotrep2 wrote:It's obviously going to be a push for giannis, but who else could potentially be on their radar? Durant?
Booker? Ja?
I think we could make a push for them as well as Trae Young/Lamelo Ball.....If Giannis ofc doesn't work out....Giannis will be priority number 1 though....
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:11 pm
by Troubadour
Clutch0z24 wrote:Boardbreaker wrote:tdotrep2 wrote:It's obviously going to be a push for giannis, but who else could potentially be on their radar? Durant?
Booker? Ja?
I think we could make a push for them as well as Trae Young/Lamelo Ball.....If Giannis ofc doesn't work out....Giannis will be priority number 1 though....
A Raptors core of LaMelo Ball, Brandon Ingram and Scottie Barnes...between the combined 100 games missed per year and the awful body language, it would be a product befitting this ownership group
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:12 pm
by tdotrep2
Troubadour wrote:The irony of trading Pascal Siakam because he's "only a number two option" to then trade for a "big fish" who needs a number two option is too much for me to stomach.
Also weird how superstar and future face of the league needs a "big fish" on top of leading scoring option and ball handler Brandon Ingram and second scoring option RJ Barrett. What's his role on the team at that point and when does management get rid of everyone again to make sure Scottie's ego isn't bruised?
what is ingram?
clearly number 2, scottie + ingram more than fill this so I am not sure why we are bringing up pascal
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:12 pm
by Indeed
There are many teams report to make trades, particularly those over the tax, such as Garland was reported to be gathering market value.
However us being at the tax (with 14 players) or slightly over, it makes me uncertain that we are going over the tax.
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:13 pm
by Brinbe
Zeno wrote:I have a feeling, it’s JJJ we are really after. The way Windhorst mentioned the Kings wanting a point guard gave me the impression that IQ could be of interest there. Maybe a three teamer..off to the trade machine…
nah. the grizz literally gave up smart and a 1st to the wiz at the deadline to have the cap flexibility to keep jjj. they're not trading him. ja will go before him if it came down to it.
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:17 pm
by Dalek
Masai Ujiri needs to be stopped. He was lucky to get Kawhi and Gasol and the surrounding players worked well, but this ain't 2019 - we have been a b2b lotto team.
The man as he gets older cuts so many corners and is now compounding mistakes. We already have a broken non-relevant Brandon Ingram, we don't need more mistakes like this.
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:19 pm
by NinjaBro
Start up the Barnes appreciation thread boys!
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:19 pm
by carlosey
Both Masai and rogers know the time is now. They are going to go all out after Giannis.
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:19 pm
by Zeno
Brinbe wrote:Zeno wrote:I have a feeling, it’s JJJ we are really after. The way Windhorst mentioned the Kings wanting a point guard gave me the impression that IQ could be of interest there. Maybe a three teamer..off to the trade machine…
nah. the grizz literally gave up smart and a 1st to the wiz to have the flexibility keep jjj. they're not trading him. ja will go before him.
Yeah probably just wishful thinking but a front court of JJ, Scottie, Ingram is absolutely an ideal. I think they will be throwing out a very large offer for him.
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:21 pm
by Troubadour
tdotrep2 wrote:Troubadour wrote:The irony of trading Pascal Siakam because he's "only a number two option" to then trade for a "big fish" who needs a number two option is too much for me to stomach.
Also weird how superstar and future face of the league needs a "big fish" on top of leading scoring option and ball handler Brandon Ingram and second scoring option RJ Barrett. What's his role on the team at that point and when does management get rid of everyone again to make sure Scottie's ego isn't bruised?
what is ingram?
clearly number 2, scottie + ingram more than fill this so I am not sure why we are bringing up pascal
They brought up Pascal, it's in the podcast episode.
OK, so if Brandon Ingram was brought in to be the number two option...and the Raptors are now looking for a "big fish" on top of that...what does that make Scottie Barnes aka future face of the league?
(and Pascal Siakam is the reason the Raptors even came up on that podcast, most media people don't talk about middling lottery teams)
Re: Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish”
Posted: Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:21 pm
by DreamTeam09
If it's RJ + GD + picks that makes sense. Who that player is intriguing.
JA, maybe that makes sense. IQ + GD + filler
Giannis - I don't think that's enough, nor would I trade Barnes if that was the option.
JJJ would be perfect & makes sense.
Jabari isn't a big fish but he makes sense
Anyone else who would be perfect I don't see moving or being available to us