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ForeverTFC wrote:$10B is crazy. Celtics went for $6.1B. These guys don't own their arenas either.

Bell sold its stake in ALL of MLSE at $9B USD. Assuming their real-estate properties are worth $1b-$2b, that makes the franchises $7b-$8B. Assume the Raptors are ~50% of that, values them at $3.5B to $4B. That price has definitely gone up now.

RaptorPride wrote:

ForeverTFC wrote:$10B is crazy. Celtics went for $6.1B. These guys don't own their arenas either.

Bell sold its stake in ALL of MLSE at $9B USD. Assuming their real-estate properties are worth $1b-$2b, that makes the franchises $7b-$8B. Assume the Raptors are ~50% of that, values them at $3.5B to $4B. That price has definitely gone up now.

I'm just wondering if we would see the NBA on the decline in our lifetime. Nothing goes up for ever and inflation plays a big role in these bigger numbers now compared to the past.

EDIT: I'm using google for this but 10 billion was around 5 bill in the year 2000. And the Lakers were worth around 360mill in the year 2000. That's **** insane. How much longer does the insane growth continue?

mihaic wrote:

RaptorPride wrote:

ForeverTFC wrote:$10B is crazy. Celtics went for $6.1B. These guys don't own their arenas either.

Bell sold its stake in ALL of MLSE at $9B USD. Assuming their real-estate properties are worth $1b-$2b, that makes the franchises $7b-$8B. Assume the Raptors are ~50% of that, values them at $3.5B to $4B. That price has definitely gone up now.

I'm just wondering if we would see the NBA on the decline in our lifetime. Nothing goes up for ever and inflation plays a big role in these bigger numbers now compared to the past.

EDIT: I'm using google for this but 10 billion was around 5 bill in the year 2000. And the Lakers were worth around 360mill in the year 2000. That's **** insane. How much longer does the insane growth continue?

Google is wrong .

Its more like 5x if I look at my house value compared to actual 2002 price.

RaptorPride wrote:

mihaic wrote:

RaptorPride wrote:I'm just wondering if we would see the NBA on the decline in our lifetime. Nothing goes up for ever and inflation plays a big role in these bigger numbers now compared to the past.

EDIT: I'm using google for this but 10 billion was around 5 bill in the year 2000. And the Lakers were worth around 360mill in the year 2000. That's **** insane. How much longer does the insane growth continue?

Google is wrong .

Its more like 5x if I look at my house value compared to actual 2002 price.

House prices in Canada are on crack. Like the wealthiest people in Toronto are people who own multiple houses, not from working and producing something for the economy. Stupid system we got here which got our actual educated and smart people leaving for the US for much better pay and opportunities and way better housing prices with more land.

And your probably right inflation is crazily understated nowadays.

mihaic wrote:

RaptorPride wrote:

mihaic wrote:Google is wrong .

Its more like 5x if I look at my house value compared to actual 2002 price.

House prices in Canada are on crack. Like the wealthiest people in Toronto are people who own multiple houses, not from working and producing something for the economy. Stupid system we got here which got our actual educated and smart people leaving for the US for much better pay and opportunities and way better housing prices with more land.

And your probably right inflation is crazily understated nowadays.

I looked recently at house prices in Europe (France): also on crack in Paris as well as in the south east Côte d'Azur

RaptorPride wrote:

mihaic wrote:

RaptorPride wrote:House prices in Canada are on crack. Like the wealthiest people in Toronto are people who own multiple houses, not from working and producing something for the economy. Stupid system we got here which got our actual educated and smart people leaving for the US for much better pay and opportunities and way better housing prices with more land.

And your probably right inflation is crazily understated nowadays.

I looked recently at house prices in Europe (France): also on crack in Paris as well as in the south east Côte d'Azur

Yea that funny me and my friend were talking how we are like France.

Its like the slow decline of first world countries around the world and I would say Canada is at the top. Our population is on the decline with out immigrants like every first world country in the world. Way to expensive for us to pump out kids let alone provide for yourself and more than 1 or 2 kids.

Whos gonna pay for all the old peoples pensions that are retiring now? So we import people from third world counties so we can stay afloat (Not talking **** that's how my parents came here). Which causes the people who have been living here to hate the new people coming in cause they are used to living a different way. Which also changes the culture of the country slowly over time. And Canadian culture isn't some ancient culture whos been around for thousands of year like other places around the world. Our country and culture is a baby compared worldwide. Canada is like 150 years old? While others have had the same cultures for over thousands of year. And emigrant families are down for the struggle just to have more kids compared to Canadians.

The new wave of immigrants are like slaves here to keep this country afloat. A slow decline of the country which probably cant be stopped. Similar to how the Romain empire fell. Keep the wealthy at the very top wealthy until they find a new place to go live.

Good video to watch:
3 Nations – Same Collapse

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rage2021 wrote:

RaptorPride wrote:

mihaic wrote:I looked recently at house prices in Europe (France): also on crack in Paris as well as in the south east Côte d'Azur

Yea that funny me and my friend were talking how we are like France.

Its like the slow decline of first world countries around the world and I would say Canada is at the top. Our population is on the decline with out immigrants like every first world country in the world. Way to expensive for us to pump out kids let alone provide for yourself and more than 1 or 2 kids.

Whos gonna pay for all the old peoples pensions that are retiring now? So we import people from third world counties so we can stay afloat (Not talking **** that's how my parents came here). Which causes the people who have been living here to hate the new people coming in cause they are used to living a different way. Which also changes the culture of the country slowly over time. And Canadian culture isn't some ancient culture whos been around for thousands of year like other places around the world. Our country and culture is a baby compared worldwide. Canada is like 150 years old? While others have had the same cultures for over thousands of year. And emigrant families are down for the struggle just to have more kids compared to Canadians.

The new wave of immigrants are like slaves here to keep this country afloat. A slow decline of the country which probably cant be stopped. Similar to how the Romain empire fell. Keep the wealthy at the very top wealthy until they find a new place to go live.

Good video to watch:
3 Nations – Same Collapse

Watch on YouTube

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First time in my life I want to move to States out of this unwinnable situation. Atleast for my kids...lol it's like leaving a war torn country. And yet this is Canada. It ain't getting any better it's only down from here. States is really only place left IMO with free speech and a chance