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Poll: Odd man out: Gradey, Ja'Kobe or Ochai?

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Odd man out: Gradey, Ja'Kobe or Ochai?

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ja'kobe
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ochai
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Post#1 » by djsunyc » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:17 pm

we are pretty loaded as the sg/sf posts so who's the odd man out of this group next season?

gradey, ja'kobe or ochai?

pick the player that will see their minutes reduced
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Post#2 » by DelAbbot » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:19 pm

If Gradey is traded before Ochai then you know that Gradey pick was made by Masai and not Bobby
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Post#3 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:19 pm

Most likely Ochai purely based on his contract status. JaKobe and Dick will still be on rookie deals.
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Post#4 » by tdotrep2 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:21 pm

DelAbbot wrote:If Gradey is traded before Ochai then you know that Gradey pick was made by Masai and not Bobby

Not necessarily, Gradey's next contract might be projected to be bigger than Ochai's and Gradey also has a decent amount of value around the league.
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Post#5 » by ItsDanger » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:22 pm

Dick and Agbaji.

Walter showed flashes of being better than both. I'd move Gradey ASAP before his perceived value drops further.
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Post#6 » by Yallbecrazy » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:26 pm

Agbaji is a bad fit for the system since his bbiq isn't great. He's a legit poa defender, but not great on rotations and isn't a good dribbler or passer. Might work well with the Nuggets or Cavs. A top 20 protected 1st that converts to 2 2nds works. Houston is another option, really anyone that wants a 3+D wing to just stand in the corner and hit open shots on offense and provide good man on man defense.

There's a logjam so while we can do the trade later I would prefer it earlier just from a minutes perspective.
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Post#7 » by anotherhomer » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:28 pm

Rj is odd person out
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Re: Poll: Odd man out: Gradey, Ja'Kobe or Ochai? 

Post#8 » by MiamiSPX » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:28 pm

I'd rather have Walter and Ochai over Gradey, but contracts matter too much now. It is likely Ochai.
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Post#9 » by TimeForChange » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:29 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Most likely Ochai purely based on his contract status. JaKobe and Dick will still be on rookie deals.

contract plus he's more valuable around the league as a 3+D
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Post#10 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:30 pm

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Post#11 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:30 pm

Where's RJ??? He's the guy we wanna trade lol
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Post#12 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:32 pm

And Gradey needs to defend a lot better. He gets exposed. He had good flashes but also looked average in the G league. His hype and presence way outstrips value - which isn’t ideal.
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Post#13 » by Mattatron » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:35 pm

RJ
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Post#14 » by djsunyc » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:39 pm

there's 3 options. rj isn't one of them.
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Re: Poll: Odd man out: Gradey, Ja'Kobe or Ochai? 

Post#15 » by nivisi9 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:41 pm

RJ

id rather keep all 3 over RJ without question.

The value proposition on RJ makes no sense for what he costs and will cost versus impact
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Post#16 » by VanWest82 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:42 pm

Agbaji. Teams are almost always more attached to the picks they made and I don't think Gradey or JKW are going to suck.
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Post#17 » by Brinbe » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:51 pm

Gradey and RJ
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Post#18 » by Jerry Lucas » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:14 pm

RJ and/or Ochai
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Re: Poll: Odd man out: Gradey, Ja'Kobe or Ochai? 

Post#19 » by StopitLeo » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:19 pm

Grades ideally. Came into the league as an elite shooter but hasn’t shown that ability at all.

Ochai on the other hand is a solid 3D option who can only get better.

Walter already looks better than Gradey imo.
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Post#20 » by Yeezus_ » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:24 pm

RJ over any of the three lol
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