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The Toronto Raptors can be a 50 win playoff home team. Here is how. 

Post#1 » by James_Raptors » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:27 am

I'm going to put my own prediction out there heading into this 2026 NBA season, even though it's ages away (unfortunately).
I have the Raptors at 50-32 with home court advantage in the 1st round.

Here's my break down.

My 50 (ish) win is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I think we're going to surprise a lot of people, including some in the Nest. And I am not suggesting we're going to be some elite team like 50 wins or more might suggest. First I think , I KNOW we played possum through large portions last season. That's one of the reasons it was one of my least enjoyable Raptors seasons since 1995, and I mean that sincerely. We had acted like an upper echelon NBA franchise for so many years, seeing us intentionally tank in such disgusting methods , I felt it was absolutely unethical and it made me sick to my stomach ( as a die hard old school basketball fan from the 70's).

So not only do I have confidence we had another gear, then you factor in our injuries (legit, stretched out, and fake) and there's potentially another level of play/record. Speaking of injuries, let's talk Brandon Ingram. He instantly becomes one of the better off-season-mid-season acquisitions in the entire NBA, IF he is healthy and plays up to his standards. Do I believe he'll stay healthy? Are you **** nuts? Hell no. But it's one of those quagmire paradox thingies. A healthy Brandon who produces like he should will add wins to this roster. If everything falls into place there will be nights when we look back and say "we won because of Brandon Ingram, he was that dominant". That's the type of player he was (and likely still is). There will be more nights when he will win us games, than cost us a victory. The problem is there will be more nights he sits in street clothes than the other two combined. I Kid , I jest, kind of, sort of.

I could go on about internal growth, how much I feel IQ is undervalued here (by some), why Scottie will look better, how we have the capabilities to be a top 10 defensive team, but I'll just add one last point, and that is, the Eastern Conference is wide open (during the regular season) from #3 on (Cavs will take #1, unless Darius continues to ail and others' fall prey to the injury bug). I have the Knicks at #2. They'll have a full season with KAT and whatever you think of him (especially defensively) he'll be a legit #2 guy and put them in that 55 win category. Brown can do **** in the reg season, not a diss on the coach, just being real here. It's Finals or bust for their team next season, after firing coach Thibs following their first ECF since before Masai joined us (lol). We have a legit chance of being better than Hali/Turner-less Pacers and half-their-team-less-Celtics, and I'm legit serious about that. In fact, I'm quite confident Celtics tank this season (they own their 1st in 2026), and it pisses me off, but that's another story for another Dallas-1st-overall-time.

If healthy I see the Hawks making the largest leap this season in the East (not counting the Raptors). This is coming from someone who can't stand watching (or looking at) Trae Young, everything about him annoys me. That being said I'm HUGE stans for Jalen Johnson and Onyeka Okongwu, basically since they entered the league.Clearly they need to be healthy, which is still a question mark.They added the Unicorn.He's another NBA player I've felt was overhyped (and often injured).Injury will always be an issue with him, but you can't argue that he wins, plays defense, a legit 40% threat from deep (shooting 41.2% last season) and gives the Hawks a legit efficient 20ppg two-way-player.Add in NAW as a defensive specialist theoretically , who shot .38.5% from 3 over the last 223 NBA games, and decent efficiency over that stretch for a SG (.576).I'd consider him a liability on offense, overall though, but with Trae, Porzingis, JJ, 2nd year Risacher and whomever else I'm forgetting, they'll be much improved with GOOD health. Hawks were 18th last season in defense. They'll be top 10 this upcoming season (health). And a 17th on offensive RTG will definitely see a bump (possibly top 10 as well).

Most people would toss Orlando in that upper tier. I'm sold on them defensively, and maybe on offense (by adding Bane, mostly, but mega overpay imo). I was listening to Frank Isola and Brian Scalabrine (don't laugh) on SiriusXM on the road today, and i think they said some goofy stat, like (paraphrasing) "Orlando has had a below NBA average offense for 18 straight seasons", but I may have heard wrong. They may break that streak this season, and they'll need their health (mostly Suggs) and if they ace those, they are above us.

I'm not sold on:
Pistons (low ceiling, no slight on Cunningham), or Duren.They lose THJR (and Malik 7-card-stud Beasley), but re-signed Reed (yawn), added Duncan Robinson and Caris LeVert.Too bad they didn't draft the better Thompson twin. Oh, hold me now.

Philly (No-one in their right mind should trust their health, ever. Have you heard of Paul George Da Third?).

Bucks:
Lillard plays 0 games instead of 58.Kuzma had a -0.7 VORP, 0.18 wS/48, negative defensive and offensive BPM, below average PER and TS for his position. Congratulations on that acquisition, just by being on your team he's made you worse.Say what you will about 36-year old Brook Lopez but he was your 2nd best VORP (next to Lillard), a net positive defender, and positive OBPM, and 2nd most efficient scorer. Thank goodness you basically spent over 200 mill signing (including eating Dame's contract) overrated Myles Turner (yes I typed that).I guess they had to do whatever they could to keep the Freak there.He's not a bad addition, but I believe they'll be worse, and hand-tied, such as it is when you desperately hold off a rebuild, but that's another, you guess it...

...and I think teams like the:

Heat (will need a big trade or they're first round fodder at best)
Bulls (play-in until new upper management?)

Celtics (1st overall pick or play-in , 8th seed-sh fodder)
Pacers are beneath us, at least for one season.

If this was a normal season, without a weak East and without that BI trade, I'd probably have the Raptors at a middling .500 ish team. But the
East is noticeably missing some stars and normally strong teams (lately), and there's a home seed or two up for grabs.

On a side note, and not to get any charity +1's, but I live out in Newfoundland and my wife has been battling inoperable cancer. Her only treatment (forever) is chemotherapy, which she has been doing off and on since last year. She has 10+ tumors and is mostly ben-ridden, so it's been tough on both of us, for different reasons.Well, we were in St.John's, our provincial capital, on Canada Day, as it turns out, and we found out that the specialists reversed their decision, and she is finally eligible for radiation treatment.There was a specific large cancer tumor on her liver that didn't respond to chemotherapy and has continued to grow.It mostly causes her to be bed-ridden most of the time, so finding out we have a new weapon in the proverbial arsenal was more uplifting than I could ever adequately put into words on RealGM.

Well, long story short, we love the Raptors dearly, and have been fans of hoops decades before Toronto (where I was born) obtained their franchise. We used to go to their road games, and recently before the Pandemic, we were in Indiana, Philly, Florida, and so on. They're the only sport we're both into , and the Raptors long surpassed hockey in our household, but I digress, again. And I'm likely using my wife's positive news at the hospital to create added hype and positive predictions when it comes to our favorite franchise, the Toronto Raptors. I am sticking to my guns though, as delusional as I may sound to some, I think we're in a bit of a weird spot in a very unlucky/lucky Eastern Conference. We have the capabilities of being lotto-to-play-in if bad stuff happens (BI continues to get injured every 3seconds, CMB shoots 11.2%.,Scottie knocks up lady #2,IQ no longer stands for intelligence quotient and RJ has to be packaged with "sweetener" if traded) or a legit threat to at least win round 1 of the playoffs and maybe more if we're lucky with seeding and health.

So I had to make a choice. Do I choose the likely, which is at least some injuries and either meander into a 1st round match-up, likely lose and end 2026 that way. Or things go much further south, and injuries only tell one half the story.We're in the lottery and questions who the heck we even are at that point.Boy that sounds like fun!(not).Whether that's legit practical or not, it doesn't seem enjoyable at all.So I was feeling good and in a better place in our lives, and that probably played a role in my version of heads, tails,spin-the-bottle- season, I decided I'll go ahead and put myself out there and go with a really high end optimistic approach to the 2025 Toronto Raptors NBA season.I stand firm on 50-32!

We can agree on one thing, even though we're heading into the Dog Days of Summer, this 2025 is going to be one hell of an upcoming NBA season, with the Raptors stories and all the incoming draft picks.Let's kick off Summer League and have a blast!


This is all in good fun. Let's go Raptors!
What is your predictions, if you have any yet?

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Post#2 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:44 am

We only lost Chris Boucher this offseason…. (Whose barely a subtraction because he didn’t really play last year)

While adding: Ingram, CMB, Martin, and Mamu

It ain’t rocket science - we got a lot more firepower, our young guys are bound to take the next step, and the East is gonna be extremely weak next season.

I think we’ll be pretty good next season. Could easily see us being a 50 win team. But we need to be healthy and need at least 65-70 games from Ingram.
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Post#3 » by James_Raptors » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:51 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:We only lost Chris Boucher this offseason…. (Whose barely a subtraction because he didn’t really play last year)

While adding: Ingram, CMB, Martin, and Mamu

It ain’t rocket science - we got a lot more firepower, our young guys are bound to take the next step, and the East is gonna be extremely weak next season.

I think we’ll be pretty good next season. Could easily see us being a 50 win team. But we need to be healthy and need at least 65-70 games from Ingram.


I agree, we're definitely in the running (for sure in the East) as one of those Most Improved Record, type of teams. I do believe some of that is deceiving (deliberate tanking last season and BI played 0 games even though he was technically on our roster post trade deadline).My 50 win season was definitely one of those best case scenario type of deals.But Who else picked The #1 and #2 seeds to miss the ECF when the playoffs started this year, or all these career and franchise altering major injuries all at once, in the same conference? At the very least, the door is (more) open, and as others are depleted of talent, we'll be adding and hopefully (wishfully thinking) healthier.It just so happens, the #3 and #4 seeds made the finals.Guess which seeds I'm referring to in my original post?Bingo.

Ya just never know, and as long as the door is open even a tinier bit more, I'm pushing the dang thing open!
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Post#4 » by MoneyBall » Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:10 am

I think we're an 82 win team.
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Post#5 » by mihaic » Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:46 am

MoneyBall wrote:I think we're an 82 win team.

Agreed. But context is always important: we're an 82 win team ...
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Post#6 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:51 am

Simple farmers, people of the land, common clay of the new West posters: “At best we're a .500 record, play in team”.

Smart, handsome posters with many girlfriends: “we’re going to the ship”.
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Post#7 » by earth007 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 12:04 pm

This team is going to surprise a lot of people. Hopefully, they promote Bobby to be the President and not some cooperate stooge.
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Post#8 » by ash_k » Fri Jul 4, 2025 12:27 pm

Easily, without Injuries, this talent-level guarantees 45-win just by showing up
Though without Masai things are going to be much more fragile with the Scotties, Ingrams and IQs.
Trading RJ would be shooting ourselves in the foot, in the immediate post-Masai era.

The talent level is easily a Top4 in the East. But again and again It is still and all about Darko. Thankfully there are some great coaches available (but won't be too long): Ideally Jenkins or Malone runs our next training camp.
Anyway, Darko's leash has to be supershort.
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Post#9 » by bobbyp3588 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 12:55 pm

ash_k wrote:Easily, without Injuries, this talent-level guarantees 45-win just by showing up
Though without Masai things are going to be much more fragile with the Scotties, Ingrams and IQs.
Trading RJ would be shooting ourselves in the foot, in the immediate post-Masai era.

The talent level is easily a Top4 in the East. But again and again It is still and all about Darko. Thankfully there are some great coaches available (but won't be too long): Ideally Jenkins or Malone runs our next training camp.
Anyway, Darko's leash has to be supershort.


What did Darko ever do to you? :)

I couldn’t disagree more in terms of the length of Darko’s leash. TBH, I feel Darko’s earned a shot to coach a winning version of this club. Heck, they’ll be a winning club because he’ll have turned them into a defensive juggernaut with some offensive savvy.

The two coaches you’d rather see running training camp NEXT year (a lot can happen in a year) aren’t unemployed because they’re better than everyone else. :)

I hope your way of thinking never rules the day.
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Post#10 » by bluerap23 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 12:56 pm

45 wins would be a huge achievement and likely gets you to the 6 seed. We have A LOT of depth this year so I expect it. I'm still looking for a trade to consolidate and upgrade. May not happen until the deadline.
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Post#12 » by ash_k » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:29 pm

bobbyp3588 wrote:
ash_k wrote:Easily, without Injuries, this talent-level guarantees 45-win just by showing up
Though without Masai things are going to be much more fragile with the Scotties, Ingrams and IQs.
Trading RJ would be shooting ourselves in the foot, in the immediate post-Masai era.

The talent level is easily a Top4 in the East. But again and again It is still and all about Darko. Thankfully there are some great coaches available (but won't be too long): Ideally Jenkins or Malone runs our next training camp.
Anyway, Darko's leash has to be supershort.


What did Darko ever do to you? :)

I couldn’t disagree more in terms of the length of Darko’s leash. TBH, I feel Darko’s earned a shot to coach a winning version of this club. Heck, they’ll be a winning club because he’ll have turned them into a defensive juggernaut with some offensive savvy.

The two coaches you’d rather see running training camp NEXT year (a lot can happen in a year) aren’t unemployed because they’re better than everyone else. :)

I hope your way of thinking never rules the day.

Right back at you :) . It started with having OG-Scottie-Pascal-Yak and not being able to implement any defensive principles as he was being very evasive about defense during his first training. I feared we were in trouble there and it was fully confirmed.

Pascal and FVV earned their minutes. Player development is not just "sit your top guys" and "let play the young guys into losing". I do give him credit for RJ and Yak though about the latter I was a bit surprised about the corner3 comment like he didnt watch him everyday! Yak better corner3 right away next season.

i just dont know where you have gotten your faith in Darko from
Heck, they’ll be a winning club because he’ll have turned them into a defensive juggernaut with some offensive savvy.

I just don't know :lol:..don't get caught up in personalities. we can all see he is an engaging person. But It is about the facts on the ground only. Were you watching the debacle in his former Memphis? how many times do we need to be down 20 for you to lose faith in him?

There are reasons why the basketball world was shocked when Malone and Jenkins were fired..Darko's former boss had Memphis Top2 in the Mighty whenever they were healthy.
The facts are he wasted OG-Scottie-Pascal-Yak and now I have to somehow believe that he will be better with IQ-RJ-BI-Scottie-Yak! No excuses, he must perform right away!
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Post#13 » by DelAbbot » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:30 pm

The roster has more talent than last year and players coming back from injury will boost it.

The key to our W-L is how will they fit on the court? How will Darko perform as a in-game strategist?
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Post#14 » by dagger » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:37 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:Simple farmers, people of the land, common clay of the new West posters: “At best we're a .500 record, play in team”.

Smart, handsome posters with many girlfriends: “we’re going to the ship”.


Someone has been watching Blazing Saddles!

To James, that's great news about your wife, and I wish her good luck and hope for a remission.

My own view is that the Raptors will be competitive for the sixth playoff spot with maybe 45-48 wins. We will still be measuring the season by the progress all the young guys make, heading into the summer of 2026 when the shortening of veteran contracts (IQ and RJ) and growth by the youngsters will increase the possibility of an impactful trade.
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Post#16 » by ciueli » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:47 pm

James_Raptors wrote:
I could go on about internal growth, how much I feel IQ is undervalued here (by some), why Scottie will look better, how we'll be a top 6 defensive team, but I'll just add one last point, and that is, the Eastern Conference is wide open (during the regular season) from #3 on (Cavs will take #1, unless Darius continues to ail and others' fall prey to the injury bug).


I cannot agree that this team will be anywhere close to a top 6 defence this upcoming season. IQ, Barrett, and Ingram are not plus value defenders, the only defensive players on our team I trust right now are Jak, Scottie, Ochai, and Shead, both Ochai and Shead will have their minutes cut from last season with IQ back and Ingram as the SF starter, we also lost one of our best perimeter defenders in Davion Mitchell. Our projected backup C is a player not known for his defence (Sandro) and we have no idea what CMB will look like in his rookie season even if he is theoretically a top defender.

Throw in inevitable minutes for either Grady or Ja'Kobe and the fact that none of these guys have played real NBA minutes with each other (critical to having a top tier defence) and that makes the defence worse, I don't see a basis for this team improving a lot on defence unless it comes at the expense of offence, playing heavy defence lineups that will be terrible on offence with Jak, Scottie, CMB, Ochai, and Shead for example.
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Post#17 » by James_Raptors » Fri Jul 4, 2025 2:02 pm

ciueli wrote:
James_Raptors wrote:
I could go on about internal growth, how much I feel IQ is undervalued here (by some), why Scottie will look better, how we'll be a top 6 defensive team, but I'll just add one last point, and that is, the Eastern Conference is wide open (during the regular season) from #3 on (Cavs will take #1, unless Darius continues to ail and others' fall prey to the injury bug).


I cannot agree that this team will be anywhere close to a top 6 defence this upcoming season. IQ, Barrett, and Ingram are not plus value defenders, the only defensive players on our team I trust right now are Jak, Scottie, Ochai, and Shead, both Ochai and Shead will have their minutes cut from last season with IQ back and Ingram as the SF starter, we also lost one of our best perimeter defenders in Davion Mitchell. Our projected backup C is a player not known for his defence (Sandro) and we have no idea what CMB will look like in his rookie season even if he is theoretically a top defender.

Throw in inevitable minutes for either Grady or Ja'Kobe and the fact that none of these guys have played real NBA minutes with each other (critical to having a top tier defence) and that makes the defence worse, I don't see a basis for this team improving a lot on defence unless it comes at the expense of offence, playing heavy defence lineups that will be terrible on offence with Jak, Scottie, CMB, Ochai, and Shead for example.


That was an error on my part. I finished typing this up at 5:00, NL time. And I remember thinking "did I say top 10, or top 6". I meant 10 (and I expect people to push back on that as well) but thank you for pointing out my error.
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Post#19 » by djsunyc » Fri Jul 4, 2025 2:21 pm

my formula for next season

8-10th best drtg
15-18th best ortg
= 45 wins
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Post#20 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Jul 4, 2025 2:26 pm

djsunyc wrote:my formula for next season

8-10th best drtg
15-18th best ortg
= 45 wins


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