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Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:30 pm
by DG88
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Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:32 pm
by Pointgod
Riley still has some zip on the fast ball. A team we’ll be fighting with for the play-in got a lot better. Danny Ainge held on to his asset too long yet again. Although the Collins trade never made sense in the first place.

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:33 pm
by Duffman100
Feels like the Clippers could have got more for Norm than an expiring John Collins?

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:33 pm
by bboyskinnylegs
I wonder if Utah fans rejoice when news like this comes in. At this rate I wonder if Ace threatening to not report could have been a selling point for Ainge in drafting him. This is the best the Clippers could get for Norm?

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:34 pm
by Raptorfan2012
Feel bad for Kevin Love. Thought he LOVED being in Miami, but now ends his career in Utah LMAO.

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:35 pm
by kwajo
Raptorfan2012 wrote:Feel bad for Kevin Love. Thought he LOVED being in Miami, but now ends his career in Utah LMAO.


I doubt he plays a game for them, I expect a buyout or retirement

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:35 pm
by OakleyDokely
contracts

Collins:
25/26: 26M (player option)
27/28: FA

Powell:
25/26: 20M
26/27: FA

Love:
25/26: 4M
26/27: FA

Anderson:
25/26: 9M
26/27: 9M (not guaranteed)
27/28: FA

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:38 pm
by MiamiSPX
Clippers making this move because they are likely bringing in Beal. Ballmer has learned a few lessons, for the most part, but he still has a soft spot for once-good guys that play when they feel like it (PG13, Kawhi, and now Beal).

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:39 pm
by Dalek
Miami hard capped to first apron so no MLE left to use. Norm is big time talent but he is another small guard. How does it work in the playoffs?

I legit forgot that Kevin Love is still hooping.

I expect that Clips will get Beal for a veteran's min and not miss a beat. Plus they have $50m in cap space the following year. Amazing move for the Clips.

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:39 pm
by Psubs
PG Harden - Dunn
SG Bogdanovic - Batum
SF Kawhi - Jones
PF Collins - Kawhi
C Zubac - Lopez

GLeague - Niederhauser

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:39 pm
by Pointgod
Duffman100 wrote:Feels like the Clippers could have got more for Norm than an expiring John Collins?


It’s a lateral move but they’re essentially the same player, Collins is four years younger somehow and fills a position of need. Plus Clippers have quite a bit of guard depth.

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:41 pm
by Psubs
kwajo wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:Feel bad for Kevin Love. Thought he LOVED being in Miami, but now ends his career in Utah LMAO.


I doubt he plays a game for them, I expect a buyout or retirement


Likely buyout and saves a bit more. Then he signs with the Lakers so backup up Ayton.

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:43 pm
by Syd-TK3
Definitely a huge win for the heat

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:45 pm
by Lazy
No way Norm gets traded again

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:45 pm
by MiamiSPX
Jazz don't really do well here. Love likely never plays for them. SloMo is a good locker room guy, so I guess he'll be useful during another miserable season.

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:47 pm
by RapsFanInOhio
Trading Anderson and Love for Norm is a home run deal.

Collins for Norm makes sense, especially if Beal lands in LA. Collins is somehow only 27 and had a good year buried in Utah.

Ainge is washed. Feels like Collins should have gotten a more than a 2nd.

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:49 pm
by navyblue
RapsFanInOhio wrote:Trading Anderson and Love for Norm is a home run deal.

Collins for Norm makes sense, especially if Beal lands in LA. Collins is somehow only 27 and had a good year buried in Utah.

Ainge is washed. Feels like Collins should have gotten a more than a 2nd.

sexton + jordan clarkson and john collins have netted them

nurkic, anderson and love.

that being said they can have around 22 mil cap space this season, maybe an offer sheet for grimes/kuminga is next step.

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:49 pm
by Psubs
RapsFanInOhio wrote:Trading Anderson and Love for Norm is a home run deal.

Collins for Norm makes sense, especially if Beal lands in LA. Collins is somehow only 27 and had a good year buried in Utah.

Ainge is washed. Feels like Collins should have gotten a more than a 2nd.


They signed Collins with cap space so netting a cheap average player and a 2nd is good.

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:51 pm
by Godaddycurse
Psubs wrote:
RapsFanInOhio wrote:Trading Anderson and Love for Norm is a home run deal.

Collins for Norm makes sense, especially if Beal lands in LA. Collins is somehow only 27 and had a good year buried in Utah.

Ainge is washed. Feels like Collins should have gotten a more than a 2nd.


They signed Collins with cap space so netting a cheap average player and a 2nd is good.


they acquired collins from atlanta few years ago and paid a 2nd to do absorb him into mostly space (sent back some minor salary) IIRC.

Re: Shams: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade Norman Powell, John Collins and Kevin Love

Posted: Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:51 pm
by HumbleRen
Duffman100 wrote:Feels like the Clippers could have got more for Norm than an expiring John Collins?


SG’s who don’t play defence don’t have a market in this new CBA world.