Please stop Bashing Bosh, he's our franchise, our superstar

ilikecb4 · Post #1 » by **ilikecb4** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 5:16 am

Look. He when Jose is out of the game we have no backup to run the show. Our offense looks horrible. Bosh can't do it alone.

Without Ginobli, and with Jose instead of Parker, how effective do you think Duncan would be?

We have no consistent Small Forward who can take over the game, or just be consistent.

Bargniani is still adjusting to his new position. He might be a bust, might not be.

ALL I'm saying is GIVE BOSH A BREAK..we need to put players around him...

Give Bosh, Shawn Marion and Steve Nash and he'll put up better numbers than Amare.

Trilogy · Post #2 » by **Trilogy** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 5:43 am

Bosh isn't immune to criticism, but he shouldn't be getting all the slagging that he is right now. He's our most important player, which makes his play extremely significant.

I just don't understand why Raptor fans can't find a middle ground in this love/hate thing.

deknow · Post #3 » by **deknow** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 5:51 am

Chris honestly I think you're a great player but seriously at the end of games you need to take control and make better, quicker decisions. Deferring to Moon FTW with the game on the line is pathetic, you get the big bucks to take the big shots!

Now quit looking for sympathy and start playing like you have a set of BALLS, it was freaking Varejao not Duncan or even KG freaking Sideshow BOB WTF! Take it to the hole and dunk on him like he did to you last year. Didn't that irk that this bench player dunked over you to win the game? And you want to go to the Allstar game? I was voting for you until the last two games now I hope you don't get in because you've been playing like a little girl! Stop waiting for the double and finish aggressively over these guys, they can't stay with you you are much faster! Get the ball in the high post and look to take Fcuking Sideshow Bob or Gooden off the Fcuking DRIBBLE! GOD!

This is getting freaking pathetic!

ilikecb4 · Post #4 » by **ilikecb4** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 5:57 am

deknow wrote:Chris honestly I think you're a great player but seriously at the end of games you need to take control and make better, quicker decisions. Deferring to Moon FTW with the game on the line is pathetic, you get the big bucks to take the big shots!

Now quit looking for sympathy and start playing like you have a set of BALLS, it was freaking Varejao not Duncan or even KG freaking Sideshow BOB WTF! Take it to the hole and dunk on him like he did to you last year. Didn't that irk that this bench player dunked over you to win the game? And you want to go to the Allstar game? I was voting for you until the last two games now I hope you don't get in because you've been playing like a little girl! Stop waiting for the double and finish aggressively over these guys, they can't stay with you you are much faster! Get the ball in the high post and look to take Fcuking Sideshow Bob or Gooden off the Fcuking DRIBBLE! GOD!

This is getting freaking pathetic!

Honestly, Tim Duncan doesn't take over games at the end either. It's not his personality..It's usually Manu Ginobli...

Maybe Bosh is not our closer, and we don't have one?

The Letter V · Post #5 » by **The Letter V** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:04 am

ilikecb4 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Maybe Bosh is not our closer, and we don't have one?

deknow · Post #6 » by **deknow** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:07 am

Make absolutely no sense that a guy with Bosh's skillset takes 5-10secs to decide what he wants to do with the ball and then passes the ball to a D-leaguer with the game on the line.

Ford is our closer and also the heart and soul of this team unfortunately we may be without our leader for an extended period.

Bosh has all the tools to dominate late in games and he chooses to shirk the responsibility. Is he scared? Does someone need to tell him what to do? cause I don't mind I could be that person.

"CHRIS ATTACK THE FCKING BASKET!!"

Southward1 · Post #7 » by **Southward1** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:16 am

chris bosh is the last guy to insult, especially after shooting 7-9 from the floor.

people don't like him on this board, because he isn't the juicey exciting wing man who is a highlight maker

I agree with the sentiments that bosh would be better in duncan or amare's spots. Specifically, I'm a believer that bosh is a better player than amare (Dwight is number one), and bosh's numbers in pheonix would be like 25/12/3/2, and phoenix would probably be a better team as well.

the raps lost today, because somebody set lebron off, and the raps didn't make there shots at the other end. (There offence wasn't very good in the second half) And yes, the rebounding thing.

we're losing games, because of our bench, plain and simple. Calderon usually tears up opposing backup pgs, and right now we don't have that option. I'm just hoping for the return of tj ford, so all these bashers and trollers disappear when we start winning games again.

deknow · Post #8 » by **deknow** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:23 am

Southward1 wrote:chris bosh is the last guy to insult, especially after shooting 7-9 from the floor.

people don't like him on this board, because he isn't the juicey exciting wing man who is a highlight maker

I agree with the sentiments that bosh would be better in duncan or amare's spots. Specifically, I'm a believer that bosh is a better player than amare (Dwight is number one), and bosh's numbers in pheonix would be like 25/12/3/2, and phoenix would probably be a better team as well.

the raps lost today, because somebody set lebron off, and the raps didn't make there shots at the other end. (There offence wasn't very good in the second half) And yes, the rebounding thing.

we're losing games, because of our bench, plain and simple. Calderon usually tears up opposing backup pgs, and right now we don't have that option. I'm just hoping for the return of tj ford, so all these bashers and trollers disappear when we start winning games again.

I'll tell you why we lost because our fcking franchise player is deferring shots in crunchtime to a guy that played on the Harlem Glotetrotters instead of attacking and getting to the line a la LBJ. He was 7-9 and when he got the ball in the 4th he kept passing it he needs to takr the ball aggressively to the hole.

I must've said this about 40 times today, I'm just pissed off this guy has no idea what to do at the end of games. He plays the 4th q like its still early in the 1st.

Kush · Post #9 » by **Kush** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 6:29 am

People need to understand that Bosh is the Anti Kobe, Anti Carmelo, Anti KG, Anti TMAC, etc. Bosh is allot like Duncan, he needs good role player that can score to be effective.

ponder276 · Post #10 » by **ponder276** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 7:56 am

Here's a question for those ripping on Bosh:

How many PFs Bosh's age or younger would you rather have on your team?

The only one I can think of is Al Jefferson, and it's a very close call. Even if we include players 2 years older than Bosh, the answer is the same.
He is at worst the 2nd best PF in the league age 25 or under, and he's only 23. People on this board definitely need to give Chris Bosh a little more respect.

RomaniaLuvTR · Post #11 » by **RomaniaLuvTR** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:40 am

i love cb and he is our franchise player no doubt about that but he`s not a superstar,he`s an all star...superstars:Lebron.Garnett,Kobe,Duncan,Nash,Wade,maybe Melo,C Paul,Dirk,Kidd...allstars :Bosh,PaulPierce,AStoudamire,Gasol,RayAllen,Arenas,and some other players. but superstar Bosh ain`t for sure

rdtx2005 · Post #12 » by **rdtx2005** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 1:03 pm

Kidd is not a superstar...

senfono · Post #13 » by **senfono** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 1:36 pm

All stars (no superstar calibre) are critized like this. It happens in every team.

raptorry · Post #14 » by **raptorry** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 2:08 pm

The Letter V wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

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LOL I hope this doesn't imply that TJ is our 'closer'
I'd like to know when he got labelled this? From what I see he can't suit up to even open anything.

sidsid · Post #15 » by **sidsid** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 2:44 pm

Bosh is an established player. We know what he can and can't do. And as fans we should expect only the best of what he can do.

On offense that means being agressive and drawing contact/getting to the line. He's been at the top of the league in FT attempts by bigs for years now, but the crazy thing is that he can do even better.

That game against the Clippers where he was guarded by a gimpy Tim Thomas. He got 15+ FT's. Yet Bosh should of been ashamed of that game. He should of been fuming at the disrespect he was shown by the opposition that a gimpy Tim Thomas without help could handle Bosh. Thomas should of played no more than 10 minutes in that game before fouling out.

The game against the Magic was more of a Bosh game. He gave Howard 5th foul at the 9 minute mark of the 4th quarter and DH was forced to sit his ass down for the majority of the quarter because of it. Still lost that game but it certainly wasn't because of Bosh.

I know Bosh still has room to grow, especially mentally, and that is the most frustrating thing about Mitchell's four years of stagnance. Mitchell hasn't grown one ioda since he got here, unless you count him no longer fist fighting with players, and Bosh has suffered the most from this. Bosh could use a teacher instead of a motivator right now, but that is no excuse for playing soft at times.

If we want a soft, no impact mid-range shooting big we can just trade for Randolph or Aldridge, and permanently become that donut team that Harry always talks about.

K-red · Post #16 » by **K-red** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 3:53 pm

deknow wrote:
"CHRIS ATTACK THE FCKING BASKET!!"

Amen

He could be so much better if he would attack the rim. How many times over the past few years have we seen him standing mere feet from the rim and he tosses the ball up hoping a foul is called only to miss the basket and have no foul called.. If he would just put a little more effort in trying to stuff the ball through the rim instead of hoping for a ticky tack foul his and1's would increase and we would win more games; it's as simple as that.

bychai · Post #17 » by **bychai** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 3:59 pm

We need TJ back.

El Presidente · Post #18 » by **El Presidente** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:00 pm

deknow wrote:Make absolutely no sense that a guy with Bosh's skillset takes 5-10secs to decide what he wants to do with the ball and then passes the ball to a D-leaguer with the game on the line.

Ford is our closer and also the heart and soul of this team unfortunately we may be without our leader for an extended period.

Bosh has all the tools to dominate late in games and he chooses to shirk the responsibility. Is he scared? Does someone need to tell him what to do? cause I don't mind I could be that person.

"CHRIS ATTACK THE FCKING BASKET!!"

I'd say 40% of his offensive decisions are bad ones. He simply doesn't have the mental makeup or the skill to be a primetime, goto-guy for a playoff team. He needs help and right now he doesn't have any. Last year he had help with with Parker, Calderon and Bargnani contributing but this year two of those guys have slowed down because teams have adjusted to them. Neither of those guys have the ability to create their own shot which puts all the pressure on your "superstar" to create which he can't do.

kingr · Post #19 » by **kingr** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:36 pm

rdtx2005 wrote:Kidd is not a superstar...

No, he's not the bigshot bob type player... But he damn sure makes his teammates better - he's a superstar in my eyes...especailly in his prime.

reptar15 · Post #20 » by **reptar15** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:41 pm

Kush wrote:People need to understand that Bosh is the Anti Kobe, Anti Carmelo, Anti KG, Anti TMAC, etc. Bosh is allot like Duncan, he needs good role player that can score to be effective.

he needs someone to pass him the freakin ball that's what he needs