We need a shake-up

[Kosta]

Something is not the same about this season, it just doesn't feel like we're going to break out of this and just turn it on like we did last year. I don't see the team playing with the same fire and passion they had most of last season, something is missing. I think losing Garbajosa is really starting to creep in, maybe we overvalued the presence of Anthony Parker and undervalued how much of a glue guy Jorge was to this team. Not to say Anthony isn't also very important, but maybe Garbo was more of the glue guy we leaned on last season when times got tough? I don't know, but I think we're missing some serious toughness and heart on this team right now. We need a shake-up and we need it now, and I don't even believe a small deal would be good enough, we need something that's is going to send a shock wave to the core of this club. A message the says they can't settle and get complacent with our past success and believe that we're good enough as is.

One more thing, we only had 11 losses at home last season, we already have 8 this season. I think that says a lot.

Then again maybe I'm jumping the gun...

[RomaniaLuvTR]

Something is not the same about this season, it just doesn't feel like we're going to break out of this and just turn it on like we did last year. I don't see the team playing with the same fire and passion they had most of last season, something is missing. I think losing Garbajosa is really starting to creep in, maybe we overvalued the presence of Anthony Parker and undervalued how much of a glue guy Jorge was to this team. Not to say Anthony isn't also very important, but maybe Garbo was more of the glue guy we leaned on last season when times got tough? I don't know, but I think we're missing some serious toughness and heart on this team right now. We need a shake-up and we need it now, and I don't even believe a small deal would be good enough, we need something that's is going to send a shock wave to the core of this club. A message the says they can't settle and get complacent with our past success and believe that we're good enough as is.

One more thing, we only had 11 losses at home last season, we already have 8 this season. I think that says a lot.

Then again maybe I'm jumping the gun...

of course we need a shake up man but i donyt know who can we trade for and at what cost..players i think could help us and aren`t impossible 2 trade for are : Kirilenko,Redd,Maggette,Dalembert,JoshSmith,

[Kosta]

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of course we need a shake up man but i donyt know who can we trade for and at what cost..players i think could help us and aren`t impossible 2 trade for are : Kirilenko,Redd,Maggette,Dalembert,JoshSmith,

I didn't mean a core breaking shake-up like that, because there's no way we acquire most of those guys without giving up one of our young guys.

I'm not a GM, so I have no idea who we target and what player we're looking for, but I do believe something needs to get done to wake this team up before this thing gets out of control.

[RomaniaLuvTR]

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I didn't mean a core breaking shake-up like that, because there's no way we acquire most of those guys without giving up one of our young guys.

I'm not a GM, so I have no idea who we target and what player we're looking for, but I do believe something needs to get done to wake this team up before this thing gets out of control.

well if shaking up means just to trade for other bench players than there`s no point 2 do that..we need 2 trade for a star or an important player in this league so we need to give up on someone we like a lot..

[Don't_Reach]

Just outta curiousty...what was the team's record last season throught 34 game?...

EDIT: We were 15-19 last year compared to 17-17 this year...Lets just try to put everythin' in prespective...

[Ackshun]

regular season records dont mean anything. lets just get to the playoffs..

the hottest team usually goes far....until they meet the spurs, the pistons, celtics, suns, blazers, nets, bulls, heat, denver, mavs, warriors, rockets, pacers, lakers, jazz, and the wizards.

we'll be fine

[rdtx2005]

Something is not the same about this season, it just doesn't feel like we're going to break out of this and just turn it on like we did last year. I don't see the team playing with the same fire and passion they had most of last season, something is missing. I think losing Garbajosa is really starting to creep in, maybe we overvalued the presence of Anthony Parker and undervalued how much of a glue guy Jorge was to this team. Not to say Anthony isn't also very important, but maybe Garbo was more of the glue guy we leaned on last season when times got tough? I don't know, but I think we're missing some serious toughness and heart on this team right now. We need a shake-up and we need it now, and I don't even believe a small deal would be good enough, we need something that's is going to send a shock wave to the core of this club. A message the says they can't settle and get complacent with our past success and believe that we're good enough as is.

One more thing, we only had 11 losses at home last season, we already have 8 this season. I think that says a lot.

Then again maybe I'm jumping the gun...

yes.. something is missing.. the name is TJ Ford

[senfono]

We need TJ, Garbo, better versions of AP and Bargnani, and a coach

[rise of raptors]

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of course we need a shake up man but i donyt know who can we trade for and at what cost..players i think could help us and aren`t impossible 2 trade for are : Kirilenko,Redd,Maggette,Dalembert,JoshSmith,

Anyone of those guys you listed would certainly help the team. However, we most likely can't get anyone of these guys with our role players + picks. And we kinda can't trade Jose now. So I highly doubt a blockbuster trade this season that would net us a star-player. Its probably better to wait until the offseason and assess what the team is capable of in the playoffs.

[MoPetefor3]

We need TJ, Garbo, better versions of AP and Bargnani, and a coach

Durrrr! Blame the coach. It is not Mitchell's fault that most of our players are not worthy to play the roles they are trying to play. Besides Jose, Bosh and Ford, we have a bunch of scrubs. What does everyone expect of this team?

[MoPetefor3]

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Anyone of those guys you listed would certainly help the team. However, we most likely can't get anyone of these guys with our role players + picks. And we kinda can't trade Jose now. So I highly doubt a blockbuster trade this season that would net us a star-player. Its probably better to wait until the offseason and assess what the team is capable of in the playoffs.

Playoffs aren't a sure thing at this point.

[chsh22]

regular season records dont mean anything. lets just get to the playoffs..

the hottest team usually goes far....until they meet the spurs, the pistons, celtics, suns, blazers, nets, bulls, heat, denver, mavs, warriors, rockets, pacers, lakers, jazz, and the wizards.

we'll be fine

Indeed, look at Dallas last year.

[senfono]

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Durrrr! Blame the coach. It is not Mitchell's fault that most of our players are not worthy to play the roles they are trying to play. Besides Jose, Bosh and Ford, we have a bunch of scrubs. What does everyone expect of this team?

Can't I have my opinion?

I never liked Sam

[rdtx2005]

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Can't I have my opinion?

I never liked Sam

thank you for showing the bias..

blaming the coach is too easy.

[senfono]

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thank you for showing the bias..

blaming the coach is too easy.

you're welcome

[sidsid]

I think losing Garbajosa is really starting to creep in, maybe we overvalued the presence of Anthony Parker and undervalued how much of a glue guy Jorge was to this team.

Absolutely. I wasn't sure how valuable Garbo was, but I was sure that he was more important than Parker, who everyone had a love in for because he put up stats. Garbo did a lot of little things that don't show up on the stat sheet, or look as flashy as a Moon block. I really hope this guy can come back healthy because he's still young enough to be that veteran glue guy for the next 5 years.

That being said, the talent is still there to be around where we were last year. Bosh has been battling on and off injuries and is having his worst offensive year in part because of it. Losing TJ for a prolonged period of time isn't helping either.

[RockTHECasbah]

We have no past success. I hate people who bring up winning a division title or Bargnani coming in 2nd to Roy as "success."

[dacrusha]

We've just gone through the most brutal part of our schedule which includes being mahandled by the best player in the world... and went 7-8 nwhich is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.

Beginning with Phoenix on Dec 5th and ending with the Cavs yesterday afternoon, we played 15 games vs. a .606 strength of schedule that incuded Boston X2, Phoenix X2, Hou X2 and games vs. Dal, Por, SA, N.O. and Det.

There is no need for a shakeup.

What this team needs is to play against some weak practice fodder (like the Sixers, Kings, Bucks and Knicks coming up) and hope that TJ can be back to rescue our PG situation.

[rise of raptors]

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Playoffs aren't a sure thing at this point.

As long as the Raps stay above .500, which they have been doing, you will (highly likely) get into the playoffs in the East.

[bigtime105]

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Durrrr! Blame the coach. It is not Mitchell's fault that most of our players are not worthy to play the roles they are trying to play. Besides Jose, Bosh and Ford, we have a bunch of scrubs. What does everyone expect of this team?

Who else puts players in their roles? Does Jose say I wanna play pg? Does Bargnani jump up to call dibbs on starting C? Did humphries want to play 4 minutes last game while the Raptors were getting raped on the boards? Youre right it is the players fault, any decent player would have stoppped listening to Smitch 1 year ago. If Humphries was reallly that good he would have subbed himself in, If Calderon was really that good he would run his own plays instead of listening to Mitchell. Yeah thats right, Mitchell has nothign to do with this teams success or failure, none. So why waste 4 million a year?