Why we kept D-Mart

[no_hops_23]

Because Martin's contract was guaranteed for 66-per-cent on Dec. 15th

[MjM2xTreMe]

Because Martin's contract was guaranteed for 66-per-cent on Dec. 15th

[whoknows]

why, oh why...%@#&...?!?

Really I'm surprised that he was not moved to coaching already if he is such an asset...
Better give a chance to a kid who wants a shot at NBA.

Who in the right mind could've seen him as a 3rd string PG?

[jonny three time]

Politics

Martin is here because he's Sams buddy. BC is doing Sam a favour by letting his buddy get one last NBA season and the pay that comes with it. For sure the logical thing to say when looking at Martin is that he should just be an assistant coach. But assistant coaches don't make near the pay that even minimum players do and if you were Martin, or his good friend, wouldn't you rather see him making players money? Plus with Evans here now we don't really need another PG coach.

Remember that BC likes to keep everyone in the organization happy. Joey and Humps extensions are a perfect example. By keeping Martin, your coach stays happy and he knows that you did him and his buddy a favour. So when its time to tell the coach things like "start Bargnani and give him regular minutes no matter what" Sam won't object to him the same way had BC not helped his buddy out.

[Darrick Martin]

why, oh why...%@#&...?!?

Really I'm surprised that he was not moved to coaching already if he is such an asset...
Better give a chance to a kid who wants a shot at NBA.

Who in the right mind could've seen him as a 3rd string PG?

Have you been watching any games? DMART was more consistent than Juan Dixon this year as the 3rd string PG and before you say he was a chucker, he only attempted around 3 shots in those performances.

You clearly did not read the original posting "waiving him now wouldn't save the Raptors any money or have any salary cap benefit."

[Geddy]

Politics

Martin is here because he's Sams buddy. BC is doing Sam a favour by letting his buddy get one last NBA season and the pay that comes with it. For sure the logical thing to say when looking at Martin is that he should just be an assistant coach. But assistant coaches don't make near the pay that even minimum players do and if you were Martin, or his good friend, wouldn't you rather see him making players money? Plus with Evans here now we don't really need another PG coach.

Remember that BC likes to keep everyone in the organization happy. Joey and Humps extensions are a perfect example. By keeping Martin, your coach stays happy and he knows that you did him and his buddy a favour. So when its time to tell the coach things like "start Bargnani and give him regular minutes no matter what" Sam won't object to him the same way had BC not helped his buddy out.

I don't buy that one bit. BC isn't the type of guy that would keep someone around just so his friends would be happy. If that was the case Mo would probably still be here.

There is something that Martin brings to the team that BC and the coaches like. It isn't on the court, and it maybe something that he brings to practice or the locker room. BC, Smitch and the gang aren't blind and they know just as well as the rest of us that he is a terrible player.

[whoknows]

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Have you been watching any games? DMART was more consistent than Juan Dixon this year as the 3rd string PG and before you say he was a chucker, he only attempted around 3 shots in those performances.

You clearly did not read the original posting "waiving him now wouldn't save the Raptors any money or have any salary cap benefit."

You should better read before posting:
1) I did not call him a chucker or compared to Juan Dixon.
2) I said "I'm surprised that he was not moved to coaching already if he is such an asset...". which means hiring him as a coach before the season started, we wouldn't have to pay him $ as a player. This way it would free up a spot for PG who wants a chance to get in the NBA.

I didn't think from day one that he deserved a spot as a 3rd string PG.

[MacDaddy]

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You should better read before posting:
1) I did not call him a chucker or compared to Juan Dixon.
2) I said "I'm surprised that he was not moved to coaching already if he is such an asset...". which means hiring him as a coach before the season started, we wouldn't have to pay him $ as a player. This way it would free up a spot for PG who wants a chance to get in the NBA.

I didn't think from day one that he deserved a spot as a 3rd string PG.

The whole point of the article was that if we find a point guard we want to sign or trade for he can be waived, but waiving him now doesn't save us any money and just leaves us with an empty roster spot.

[jonny three time]

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I don't buy that one bit. BC isn't the type of guy that would keep someone around just so his friends would be happy. If that was the case Mo would probably still be here.

There is something that Martin brings to the team that BC and the coaches like. It isn't on the court, and it maybe something that he brings to practice or the locker room. BC, Smitch and the gang aren't blind and they know just as well as the rest of us that he is a terrible player.

Well duh, of course he's good in the locker room or in practice. If you had no right to be an NBA player wouldn't you be the nicest guy imaginable while around the team? It's basically what he's getting paid for.

When I see Slokar coming over last year, I realize that he was Bargs teammate before, near the same age, and just happens to be the nicest and funniest guy on the team. If they saw him as a young project to develop he'd still be here. Baston was teammates with Parker for years and they're apparently friends who are also the same age, Bosh and TJ are friends from the same hometown. Garbo and Calderon have been great friends for years with Team Spain. You can look at these as all coincedences, but I don't. Now with Garbo and TJ I'm not saying they are here cause they're close with our guys. But Garbo likely signed here with that being a reason, and TJ was more liekly to want to be a part of the teams future with his BFF being the main guy here.

It has to do with chemistry and the effect it has on a basketball team. If you had to choose between 2 players whos physical skills were very close, wouldn't you take the guy who you knew would help your teams chemisty? Especially when they're end-of-the-benchers. Of course.

Thats the problem with Martin though. He's here only because of off-the-court reason rather than that being one of the reasons. He's not a competent NBA player and is a liablity every second he's on the court. I think the fact that "his guy" is the coach is the main deciding factor.

Here's a great article by "the sports guy" talking about chemistry on a team. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ortCat=nba

[Mandrake]

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When I see Slokar coming over last year, I realize that he was Bargs teammate before, near the same age, and just happens to be the nicest and funniest guy on the team. If they saw him as a young project to develop he'd still be here. Baston was teammates with Parker for years and they're apparently friends who are also the same age, Bosh and TJ are friends from the same hometown. Garbo and Calderon have been great friends for years with Team Spain. You can look at these as all coincedences, but I don't. Now with Garbo and TJ I'm not saying they are here cause they're close with our guys. But Garbo likely signed here with that being a reason, and TJ was more liekly to want to be a part of the teams future with his BFF being the main guy here.

Not trying to thread jack hear but I was never quite sure of this. I know TJ and Bosh are friends but are they like best friends? Or are they just like buddies who knew each other?

And to add to the topic of DMart and staying with the Raps. My opinion is that if we could get something better and it made sense then I'd do it in a heart beat. But it's not like he's Milt Palacio here, sure he shot jacks, but last year he made alot. He has proven to hit shots through out his career. I mean it's not like he's not providing nothing to the team. I could go on, like he's a old school guywho has played with Magic and thoes guys, who can be a great example to Jose and TJ a little bit. He's a great locker room guy that everyone likes. People listen to him so obviously he has something worthy to say. Sure he takes and misses shots, but it shows the guys that they need to have confidence when they play.

[The_Hater]

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Have you been watching any games? DMART was more consistent than Juan Dixon this year as the 3rd string PG and before you say he was a chucker, he only attempted around 3 shots in those performances.

I would say that DMart has been almost as bad, only in a different way.

In a perfect world, neither of them would ever see the PG position in an NBA game.

[dinosaur_dan]

What drives me crazy about this is that DMart is on the team to provide PG mentorship, and to play some 3rd string point in case of injury or blowout.

Instead, we got Dixon running 3rd string point. Mitchell won't even use DMart for the only playing role that DMart can actually perform.

Why wasn't he cut??? Argh!!!

[The Letter V]

So if I'm getting this straight, we didn't want to cut D-Mart because we would be taking money out of his pocket. So when his contract is fully guaranteed, is there more of a chance we cut him then, so D-Mart still gets paid, but we get rid of him...?

[torontoaces04]

I may get blasted for saying this, and I never though I would catch myself saying it but I'd rather have DMart on the court playing PG than Dixon.

[MJ23DREAMER]

I think it was difficult to absolutely asses the situation on Dec. 15th with any certainty. You really couldn't at that time say that TJ will be out for "X" amount of time and then we would release DMart.

Really, to this point TJ is still a huge question mark with regards to his return date. I think right now BC and Smitch are going to have to live with the status quo and have Juan back-up Jose, unless we get a PG with zero cap implications and no contract beyond this season. There are not too many players that fit that bill.

[torontoaces04]

oh.. and he kept the three point streak alive.

[emfive]

We had some success with Delfino at point F. What happened? I think the coaching staff has reservations about it or forgot. Which was it?