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Ford A Month From Returning??
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:24 pm
by alfie123
Let me get this straight, the guy misses one month and needs another entire month to get back into "game" shape?
if hes been cleared to practice shouldnt he be able to return in a week or two tops?
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/50241/20080111/raptors_colangelo_on_prowl_for_guard/
Even though Ford, who suffered an arm stinger on Dec. 11, will begin workouts this week, he could still be four to five weeks away from rejoining the team.
Re: Ford A Month From Returning??
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:28 pm
by rdtx2005
alfie123 wrote:Let me get this straight, the guy misses one month and needs another entire month to get back into "game" shape?
it's more mental than physical..
if hes been cleared to practice shouldnt he be able to return in a week or two tops?
how about you put yourself in his shoes.. image how he felt when he got injured by the inadvertent "block" by Horford.. imagine what went through his mind at the time
I can't believe some of you fans ... these people are human beings.. not robots.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:29 pm
by bakafool
If he needs a month, then I'll give him a month. We cannot afford to have TJ not ready 100% mentally or physically.
Re: Ford A Month From Returning??
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:30 pm
by alfie123
rdtx2005 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
how about you put yourself in his shoes.. image how he felt when he got injured by the inadvertent "block" by Horford.. imagine what went through his mind at the time
I can't believe some of you fans ... these people are human beings.. not robots.
Oh well sorry I didnt know that he was a human being, thank you for clearing that up.
Ive seen athletes return from injuries all the time, ive seen hockey players return from concussions in a week.
Yes it really is psychological, but newsflash for you...hes gona have this condition his entire life.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:33 pm
by C Court
I think its understandable with his medical history that TJ wants to be 99.99999% certain that there is no chance that he re-injures himself and ends up permanently paralyzed.
The issue goes beyond just sucking it up and playing through an injury. TJ has to be certain that the possibilty of permanent paralysis is minimized.
Otherwise, he'd be best to retire and put millions of dollars in the bank.
You have to understand that the issue TJ is grappling with involves his fear that he could take a bad fall again and end up as a parapeligic or quadrapalegic.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:36 pm
by Spragga
as long as he needs is fine. I just dont want him to come back and play passive and not drive to the basket.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:37 pm
by alfie123
Who is to say that a month is sufficient to get his mental aspect back into the game?
According to the way most of you think, he might not even return this season...being paralyzed is extremely serious.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:39 pm
by Raptorsrock
What's an extra couple of weeks in the grand scheme of his career?
It's obvioulsy mental at this point and anyone in his situation with an ounce of common sense would be going through the same feelings at TJ right now.
Besides if I'm the Raps I want to TJ back 100% just in terms of his value going forward
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:42 pm
by C Court
Just to clarify, its the Sun saying Ford could be out another 4 or 5 weeks and that's not a direct quote from the Raptors.
Who knows? Maybe he returns sooner.
Either way, it doesn't bother me. I think that rushing a player back early usually results in bigger problems down the road.
Re: Ford A Month From Returning??
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:43 pm
by Yuri Vaultin
alfie123 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Oh well sorry I didnt know that he was a human being, thank you for clearing that up.
Ive seen athletes return from injuries all the time, ive seen hockey players return from concussions in a week.
Yes it really is psychological, but newsflash for you...hes gona have this condition his entire life.
When dealing with the potential for paralysis I do not think that some should necessarily hurry and "suck it up".
Why not imagine for a minute that you don't live at home with mom and dad and are instead an athlete grappling with the potential for paralysis. You cite concussions and hockey players as an example - most of which were absolute shadows of their former selves after suffering them - Lindros playing scared did not suit his game, any more than TJ not using his quicks and not attacking the paint would suit his game. We need TJ back physically and mentally PERIOD.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:43 pm
by YogiStewart
personally, i doubt that it will be a month. i think that this kid has bball in his veins. once he's back on the court, he will gain that confidence. then he'll be back with his teammates and things will move quickly from there.
to be honest, i wouldn't be shocked if he's on the bench for the Blazers' game. i don't expect it, but it wouldn't shock me.
Re: Ford A Month From Returning??
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:45 pm
by alfie123
Yuri Vaultin wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
When dealing with the potential for paralysis I do not think that some should necessarily hurry and "suck it up".
Why not imagine for a minute that you don't live at home with mom and dad and are instead an athlete grappling with the potential for paralysis. You cite concussions and hockey players as an example - most of which were absolute shadows of their former selves after suffering them - Lindros playing scared did not suit his game, any more than TJ not using his quicks and not attacking the paint would suit his game. We need TJ back physically and mentally PERIOD.
Hey you know what youre right...BUT you are all missing my point. If hes that worried why not retire?
If he wants to play why not try and play again? Thats all Im saying, I understand the caution however he can sit around for a year or two thinking the exact same way this is a PERMANENT condition that he has had and will have his entire life.
Lets pretend you werent a TJ man juice lover, lets pretend.
Re: Ford A Month From Returning??
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:46 pm
by Yuri Vaultin
alfie123 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Hey you know what youre right...BUT you are all missing my point. If hes that worried why not retire?
If he wants to play why not try and play again? Thats all Im saying, I understand the caution however he can sit around for a year or two thinking the exact same way this is a PERMANENT condition that he has had and will have his entire life.
Lets pretend you werent a TJ man juice lover, lets pretend.
Hmm... So I'm guessing you're what 14?
If you knew anything about me and my posting history you would know that I am not a huge fan of TJ's out of control style of play - however, as a fan of the Raptors I know that we need both TJ and Jose to be healthy. But I digress...
Re: Ford A Month From Returning??
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:51 pm
by alfie123
Yuri Vaultin wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Hmm... So I'm guessing you're what 14?
If you knew anything about me and my posting history you would know that I am not a huge fan of TJ's out of control style of play - however, as a fan of the Raptors I know that we need both TJ and Jose to be healthy. But I digress...
Oh please forgive my lack of knowledge on your posting legacy oh great Yuri Vaultin.
Re: Ford A Month From Returning??
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:58 pm
by Yuri Vaultin
alfie123 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Oh please forgive my lack of knowledge on your posting legacy oh great Yuri Vaultin.
I can forgive your lack of knowledge, but your ignorance is inexcusable.
Re: Ford A Month From Returning??
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:03 pm
by C Court
alfie123 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Lets pretend you werent a TJ man juice lover, lets pretend.
No excuse for comments like this. Based on the juvenile nature of this comment alone, the thread should be locked.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:17 pm
by Tha Cynic
If I was another fall away from being paralyzed for life when I have a kid to look after, I would ignore all that and head right back in like an idiot too
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Re: Ford A Month From Returning??
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:42 pm
by rdtx2005
alfie123 wrote:Ive seen athletes return from injuries all the time, ive seen hockey players return from concussions in a week.
what happened to Eric Lindros and Scott Stevens?
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:49 pm
by Reignman
YogiStewart wrote:[b]personally, i doubt that it will be a month. i think that this kid has bball in his veins. once he's back on the court, he will gain that confidence. then he'll be back with his teammates and things will move quickly from there.[/b]
to be honest, i wouldn't be shocked if he's on the bench for the Blazers' game. i don't expect it, but it wouldn't shock me.
I think this will be the case as well. As soon as he hits the court, along with some mentoring from Lucas, I think it will be hard for him to keep himself out of the game.
And to be honest, even if he needs an extra couple of weeks, who cares? I want to see this guy in peak form for the stretch drive and the playoffs because that's when we'll need him most. I have full confidence that the rest of the team can keep it moving in the meantime.
Re: Ford A Month From Returning??
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:58 pm
by ruckus
alfie123 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Hey you know what youre right...BUT you are all missing my point. If hes that worried why not retire?
If he wants to play why not try and play again? Thats all Im saying, I understand the caution however he can sit around for a year or two thinking the exact same way this is a PERMANENT condition that he has had and will have his entire life.
Lets pretend you werent a TJ man juice lover, lets pretend.
So basically you're saying, "come back now or retire"? No middle ground? No "give me a few weeks rehabbing to get my confidence back"? This is a guy that has the ability to play basketball at a speed faster than you drive. To play at TJ's level you have to have full confidence in yourself and your body. He doesn't have that right now. To throw him in the fire and make him play while he is still feeling overly cautious would most likely lead to another injury. I don't know why you wouldn't want him to take as much time as he needs to come back.