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I know this was brought up recently in another form, but any time I watch the Knicks, I can't help but brainstorm possible ways to try to gut them of any assets they might have.

Although Curry and Crawford have questionable value and some relatively big contracts, they do have talent. Lee is their own version of Humphries.

I wonder if the Raps were to package something like Rasho, Dixon, Graham, Baston and maybe Kapono (if he wasn't BYC)- if they couldn't convert some of our less used assets into some players that would be part of the rotation. The advantage for the Knicks is that most of these players will be off the books, and they could start to clean house...

Honestly, even though Curry is another bad rebounder, he has size and offensive talent. He would basically be a straight-up for Rasho. He would conceivably come in and start at center, although between himself and Bargs, the center minutes would be occupied.

Crawford could be our sixth man off the bench, offering scoring and the ability to handle the ball a bit as a third lead guard in some situations.

David Lee is probably their most tradeable asset, and would give us a hussle guy that we could try to re-sign this summer along with Delfino. It would be nice to be able to have the offensive fire-power of Bargs and Curry as bigs, but at the same time, imagine being able to run with Bosh/Hump/Lee/Moon/TJ as an athletic defensive unit that could get on the glass.

Anyways, I'm not a cap expert, and I know that there is little interest in guys like Curry and Crawford, especially since they've been marred by their association with the debacle that has occured in New York.

But any time you have a highly distressed situation, where the problems off the court and the dysfunction on it, you have the potential for bargain opportunities. Some players who are not as selfish and as ineffective as they seem in that context can see their value impacted by proxy.

Without Lee, I have no interest; there are no players in the league that I dislike more than Crawford and Curry. Regardless, I doubt that New York does it...and they certainly do not give Lee away essentially for free.

Lee has real value around the league. They could get a solid player for him.

The guy that is a little interesting is Crawford. He actually has quite a bit of talent and can create off the dribble.

I wouldn't make a move for him, but he could be had cheap and might be able to help our team.

I wouldn't take Curry even if it was for free.

Lee's tenacity on the glass and spot scoring are definitely intriguing, but the Raps won't be able to get him without swallowing some Knick-salary ...

Jamal Crawford is a talent, no doubt, but he is a cap-killer, he's on the books until 2011 ...

Curry, same story with regards to the cap ...

Obviously any team would want Lee and the Knicks won't give him away

Curry is just a waste and not worth taking on that contract or his piss poor attitude


Why trade for Crawford and his massive contract when you could just get another selfish chucker like ricky davis, mccants, jr smith, etc. for cheaper?

No one doubts Crawford's talent, but he's in his eighth NBA season and still has no concept of team ball. I also doubt that he would be pleased to come off the bench...and I certainly wouldn't want him in the starting lineup.

If he were on a cheap deal and we could basically bring him in for free, I'd take a flyer. But he's owed roughly $9m a year until, gulp, 2011. That's a massive gamble on a guy whose only skill is his ability to score, and at percentages below the league average.

roy_jones_calderon wrote:
Crawford could be our sixth man off the bench, offering scoring and the ability to handle the ball a bit as a third lead guard in some situations.

Please stop. Crawford is horrible.

Crawford = AP minus defense

Lee = Humps

Thats exactly what our team needs another 7-footer that doesn't rebound another player to chuck the ball and then Lee, who I really don't have anything bad to say about.

If your going to scour the knicks looking for a good bargain I would suggest looking at more cap friendly players...

And seriously curry ? We need a guy like curry like we need a tranvestite cheerleader taking off its clothes for a half time show.

Poor rebounding bad defense...he makes bargs look like a number one pick

RJC's credibilty takes a huge hit with this one ... maybe the Knicks bad play has effect your judgement ... not 1 Knick is worth having ... NOT 1!!!

You are essentially talking about the only players who amount to anything on the Knicks. Once you trade them, they immediately default behind Bosh and their production drops.

I'm pretty sure Eddy Curry would have a heart attack trying to run up the court. To me it isn't a positive thing when your centre eats more cheeseburgers while on the court than he gets rebounds. While the Raptors don't run as much as GS/Phoenix, they tend to get up the court fairly fast and then set up their play. Curry would be dragging his tail well behind the play. No use for him.

Crawford, well, sure, he has some talent off the dribble, but I'm not sure that his no defense is anything the Raptors want to touch. He would score more/more consistently than Parker, but I would rather have Parker's steady game.

That and why are we bailing the Knicks out of big contracts. Taking on Curry AND Crawford is awful on the cap and it really doesn't make the team that much better.

Look at what you get out of Crawford when he doesn't get the ball. No defense and the odd point/rebound.
Rasho Nesterovic puts up that kind of production. While I wouldn't expect 19PPG out of Rasho, if you let him take 1500 shots (like Curry did last season) I'm sure that he would have a much higher PPG too. Curry wouldn't be used much more than Rasho in the Raptors system, and his defensive game is probably worse than Bargnani's. I would rather let Andrea struggle through his problems where he actually has the potential to get much better, than to watch Curry be a total sieve defensively while being at best a moderate factor offensively.

I am not as down on Crawford as most of you.

I think he is a pretty decent player who can handle the ball a bit, and be a backup PG when needed. Obviously, he has problems with his shot selections (lots of problems). But he is very versatile, and in a good team and a good environment, he can be contribute.

His contract isn't that bad either, unlike other Knicks.

I was also thinking of ways to rob them of thier talent and get something without giving up much...problem is they are loaded with headaches...I think David Lee would be great here...it depends on what we give up for him...No way I want to tajke on Crawford or Curry...I do really like Zach Randolph though...BUT would never want him on this team the way it is now..him and Chris woould compliment each other thoguh I can tell you that much

I wouldn't want Curry in the deal and to be honest, I think they invested too much in him to trade him for capspace.

I love Lee and am a fan of Crawford aswell. People label him a chucker, which he can be, but he is also a guy who can be a bigtime scorer and is fairly clutch. I mean, anytime the Knicks need a game winner, which isn't often, but whenever it is there it will be Crawford taking it. He has range and PG ballhandling abilities, aswell he does get assists.

Lee ofcourse brings rebounding and hustle at a higher level and more consistantly than our boy Hump. He also has a far better bball IQ than Hump to boot.

Figure out a deal where we get those two, while giving away our expiring contracts and throwins and we are good.

basketball royalty wrote:
I love Lee and am a fan of Crawford aswell. People label him a chucker, which he can be, but he is also a guy who can be a bigtime scorer and is fairly clutch. I mean, anytime the Knicks need a game winner, which isn't often, but whenever it is there it will be Crawford taking it. He has range and PG ballhandling abilities, aswell he does get assists.

Do you realize that he only shooting 40%, sure that would be okay if he gave you something else but he does not. He is a terrible defender, makes awful descisions and his ast/to ratio is 1.7. 1.7 assists for every turn over that he makes. Jose leads the league with 6.3, 1.7 is not very good at all. It is pretty bad actually and you saw that today.

It was the same thing in Chicago, thats why they got rid of him. I don't see how BC would ever trade for someone like that, even if it cost next to nothing.

Curry would drastically help this team offensivly. We'd finally have a balanced inside/outside attack, as opposed to just being a jump shooting team. He'd provide us with another option, one desperately needed inside.

Imagine him on a team with some structure and point guards that will feed him properly........look out.

PharoaheMonch wrote:Curry would drastically help this team offensivly. We'd finally have a balanced inside/outside attack, as opposed to just being a jump shooting team. He'd provide us with another option, one desperately needed inside.

Imagine him on a team with some structure and point guards that will feed him properly........look out.

The mere idea that Eddy Curry has been improperly fed to date scares me, regardless of the context.

I dont see BC making such major changes in the rotation. They often use words as "team spirit" and "developing the chemistry"

RJC, will you pls marry me?