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Why do we have so many bad reputations as trolls? like why ppl in this forum feel a need to troll?

im a raptors fan by the way

a lot of bandwagoner fans in toronto

Should not suprise you. We have a very large fan base on the internet and a majority of that fan base is fairly immature. Likely has a lot with age so it is rather possible that all our rowdy rap fans may grow into intelligent well behaved posters but for now we have the distinct honour of being the biggests trolls on realgm. Not to mention the most bi-polar

alfie123 wrote:Why do we have so many bad reputations as trolls? like why ppl in this forum feel a need to troll?

im a raptors fan by the way

It's just interesting to see our opponents game threads, and see what they're saying about the Raptors, and what they're saying about our players after watch them play.

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It's just interesting to see our opponents game threads, and see what they're saying about the Raptors, and what they're saying about our players after watch them play.

I read what other fans have to say about the raptors after every game, and i'm sure most of the raptors realgmr's do the same, but i wouldnt call that trolling. There's a big diff.

Trolling= posting useless, bashful comments that stir up a board.

Curiosity= roaming other boards to READ what others are saying and (possibly) discuss in a CIVILIZED manner

Yes, we are. Anytime anything remotely critical is said of our team/player on any board, we're there to make others take note of our displeasure.

I mean how much worse can it get than one of our trolls starting an opposing team's game thread on their own board?

Sheer volume is part of it, but we are also unusually insular, both in our exposure to basketball outside of Toronto, and also socially due to the underlying belief many have that being Canadian somehow subjects us to more than normal bias from everyone else.

Trolling by "Raptor fans" was a severe problem early last season....

The problem was that i didnt recognize any of them as being regular posters on this Forum. They were almost all "Ballboys", indicating that they recently are jumping on the bandwagon.

The odd part was that they would come troll the Bulls Board even when nothing negative was being written about the Raptors.

However, there has been no problem in a long time - at least with the Bulls Board

No offense to little kids but, ITS YOU ITS ALL YOUR FAULT.

ahhhem.....yep.

Yes we're guilty of that. Oh well, that's the way things are.

There are definitely a lot of bandwagon fans in Toronto. A lot of leafs fans who like to think they are basketball experts also. A lot of raptor fans basically just regurgitate whatever b.s. Chuck Swirsky has to say instead of thinking on their own.

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I read what other fans have to say about the raptors after every game, and i'm sure most of the raptors realgmr's do the same, but i wouldnt call that trolling. There's a big diff.

Trolling= posting useless, bashful comments that stir up a board.

Curiosity= roaming other boards to READ what others are saying and (possibly) discuss in a CIVILIZED manner

Great Definition of some of the Raptors fans here.

I find that most of the time I read a complete thread and my questions are answered or my interjection is already made. We have a good form and it is informative. The Problem that I see come when you have butting heads. This is usually a territory thing. were like goats.

I read other teams' game threads, I just don't respond to them. No point.

I troll so does alt of other fans from other teams... get over it

Most of them are ballboys with 3 or 4 posts, but there are a couple that have a lot of posts... who knows how they survived this long...All I know is that my ignore list is pretty damn long...

I think a lot of it comes down to the Canada thing. In 3 ways:

1) We get less exposure to non-local games than most American fans.

2) We have less deep-rooted history with the game, both playing and watching.

3) The whole 'anti-Canadian bias'.

Now I think #3 has, in fact, happened at times, most specifically in the period just before Carter re-signed here, when people like Vescey and the like were staking their reps on the fact that VC would want to 'come home' to the US, but I think it's a lot more rare than people suppose, and in terms of the league itself, probably if anything the reverse is true, with internationalism being Stern's pet project.

But for the first 2, it's unfortunate because no one's really to blame, but the fact is our fan base is more isolated in their exposure, and when you couple that with the emphatically homerish vocal stylings of our most prominent announcer, and it creates an atmosphere where people are prone to inflate our players and, then, when faced with disagreement, assume it's basis isn't legit, therefore must be founded in bias or antagonism or whatever.

For example, Mr. Swirsky will routinely suggest that Calderon should be in the ASG. Now there may be a legit argument for that, but there are also VERY legit counter-arguments. The basis of Mr. Swirsky's claim is JC's play in his recent starts, but the obvious rebuttal is that we would probably want a much greater basis for suggesting another player should be in the ASG over people who have proved it longer were they not Raptors.

But this is never presented, and the fan-base, largely relying on Mr. Swirsky's take on where our players fit into the league, as short of the Sports pack I have or a satellite, are only able to see a few non-Raps games a week, if that. Additionally, many of our newer fans are even less able to view NBA games, rooting as they do from Europe.

So the confluence of events, coupled with a site which we dominate in numbers, probably is a bit of a perfect storm for producing an aggressively biased take on things.

I do agree that our sheer numbers account for a lot of it, but I think it's disingenuous to suggest that's all it is.

Harry Palmer wrote:I think a lot of it comes down to the Canada thing. In 3 ways:

1) We get less exposure to non-local games than most American fans.

2) We have less deep-rooted history with the game, both playing and watching.

3) The whole 'anti-Canadian bias'.

Now I think #3 has, in fact, happened at times, most specifically in the period just before Carter re-signed here, when people like Vescey and the like were staking their reps on the fact that VC would want to 'come home' to the US, but I think it's a lot more rare than people suppose, and in terms of the league itself, probably if anything the reverse is true, with internationalism being Stern's pet project.

But for the first 2, it's unfortunate because no one's really to blame, but the fact is our fan base is more isolated in their exposure, and when you couple that with the emphatically homerish vocal stylings of our most prominent announcer, and it creates an atmosphere where people are prone to inflate our players and, then, when faced with disagreement, assume it's basis isn't legit, therefore must be founded in bias or antagonism or whatever.
For example, Mr. Swirsky will routinely suggest that Calderon should be in the ASG. Now there may be a legit argument for that, but there are also VERY legit counter-arguments. The basis of Mr. Swirsky's claim is JC's play in his recent starts, but the obvious rebuttal is that we would probably want a much greater basis for suggesting another player should be in the ASG over people who have proved it longer were they not Raptors.

But this is never presented, and the fan-base, largely relying on Mr. Swirsky's take on where our players fit into the league, as short of the Sports pack I have or a satellite, are only able to see a few non-Raps games a week, if that. Additionally, many of our newer fans are even less able to view NBA games, rooting as they do from Europe.

So the confluence of events, coupled with a site which we dominate in numbers, probably is a bit of a perfect storm for producing an aggressively biased take on things.

I do agree that our sheer numbers account for a lot of it, but I think it's disingenuous to suggest that's all it is.

Sadly this is true.. many times I go to opposing teams gamethreads and I see things from Raptors trolls like "Moon will stop so and so (Lebron, Durant, Roy) easily and dunk on him too", "we're an elite team and better than your mediocre team", "we have two all-star pgs", and even "we're better than you now and we have a brighter future than you" in reference to Portland... things that are exaggerations and blind homerism, and basically a plea that you want the opposing fans to acknowledge some of the stretches about our team that Chuck cultivates and bandwagon fans believe... keep that stuff here, opposing teams fans could give a **** about our team or players, and especially on their own forum... whether its close to reality or not some of the stuff must sound unbelievably stupid, especially if they never watch our team..